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anonumos: Jul 14, 2005; Fuck it.

blatman posted:

just lol if your first impulse by april wasn't to thaw the entire batch of lsd-infused sugar cubes and jam em all in your face in an attempt to bargain with god about the fate of man

I, too, crave a good, healthy lifestyle free of money concerns, where I ALSO just so happen to have a batch of sweet-acid just sitting around for those "listen here you pompous two-faced shameless pitiful excuse for a deity!" moments...

# ? Sep 26, 2020 14:57

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# ? May 25, 2024 01:11

Kitfox88: Aug 21, 2007; Anybody lose their glasses?

dr_rat posted:

I just see the internet in my dreams and outside that it doesn't exist. Currently sleeping at the moment.

So yeah none of you are real.

Sorry.

thank gently caress I�m not existent

# ? Sep 26, 2020 15:12

Byzantine: Sep 1, 2007

dr_rat posted:

I just see the internet in my dreams and outside that it doesn't exist. Currently sleeping at the moment.

So yeah none of you are real.

Sorry.

oh thank god

# ? Sep 26, 2020 16:35

50s girl groupon: Jul 17, 2010; I woke up like this

dr_rat posted:

I just see the internet in my dreams and outside that it doesn't exist. Currently sleeping at the moment.

So yeah none of you are real.

Sorry.

If I only exist in your nightmare hellscape then why did you make me so depressed and anxious, rear end in a top hat

# ? Sep 26, 2020 17:59

Raldikuk: Apr 7, 2006; I'm bad with money and I want that meatball!

Mr Interweb posted:

does it matter? 95% of the websites i frequent have developed adblock detectors.

opera is going pretty well for me

...for now

I haven't come across a site yet that has an anti ad blocker I can't get around. For 99% of sites I don't need to do poo poo for the other 1% it takes like 1m to get it to go away. Works on paywalls too.

# ? Sep 26, 2020 18:28

ikanreed: Sep 25, 2009; I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

I learned when imgur rolled out their adblock detector, that ublock had feature to force a javascript variable to always be a certain value, no matter what code executed.

While you might need an ad hoc rule for every single site, that covers a lot of anti adblock

# ? Sep 26, 2020 19:09

blatman: May 10, 2009; 14 inc dont mez

anonumos posted:

I, too, crave a good, healthy lifestyle free of money concerns, where I ALSO just so happen to have a batch of sweet-acid just sitting around for those "listen here you pompous two-faced shameless pitiful excuse for a deity!" moments...

to be fair lsd costs like a dollar a liter if you know a chemist with dubious morals and you can have unlimited sugar cubes if you just confidently walk into car dealerships and raid their coffee kiosk

# ? Sep 26, 2020 19:15

BonHair: Apr 28, 2007

blatman posted:

to be fair lsd costs like a dollar a liter if you know a chemist with dubious morals and you can have unlimited sugar cubes if you just confidently walk into car dealerships and raid their coffee kiosk

I think the point is more that you have to have free time enough to get super high without getting fired and subsequently evicted and starve.

# ? Sep 26, 2020 19:18

anonumos: Jul 14, 2005; Fuck it.

And I wasn't being critical. Sounds amazing!

# ? Sep 26, 2020 19:26

blatman: May 10, 2009; 14 inc dont mez

honestly I just wanted to make a humorous reply that someone could bounce another humorous reply off of, the real forums endgame isn't getting quoted it's getting quoted then having that post get quoted ad nauseum, it's like a combo bonus except instead of points you get a sensible chuckle and possibly a probe

# ? Sep 26, 2020 19:37

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

dc3k posted:

I got this in a recruiter email. This is probably the most offensive startup I�ve seen in years.

Trabisnikof posted:

looking good for ambulnz

quote:
The EMS providers were hired in March by private ambulance company Ambulnz, which they allege went back on its promise to pay the providers for "24-hours a day, 7-days a week," according to the New York Post.

The lead plaintiff in the case that filed in a Brooklyn state court, Tennessee EMT James Richard, said he didn't learn until two weeks into his deployment that he would only be paid for seven 12-hour shifts per week instead of being paid for 24 hours a day. The lawsuit claims all other ambulance companies contracted by FEMA were paying for 24-hour shifts.

The lawsuit also alleges that EMS providers were subject to strict rules throughout their deployment, including being required to stay in their hotel rooms at all times when not working shifts and being prohibited from consuming alcohol or engaging in sexual activity so that they could always be on call for emergencies.

The plaintiffs claim a security guard was stationed in the hotel lobby and providers were made to carry GPS devices to ensure they did not leave their rooms.

lol there is literally nothing a startup won't try, is there?

# ? Sep 26, 2020 20:01

Colonel Cancer: Sep 26, 2015; Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Forbidden from consuming alcohol and loving lmao what a job

# ? Sep 26, 2020 20:08

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

"Stupid poor people. We opened a whole foods in their inner city neighborhood and they still wouldn't buy our food. It's because they're dumb." - Owner of Whole Foods

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/business/john-mackey-corner-office-whole-foods.html

# ? Sep 26, 2020 20:21

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

spacetoaster posted:

"Stupid poor people. We opened a whole foods in their inner city neighborhood and they still wouldn't buy our food. It's because they're dumb." - Owner of Whole Foods

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/business/john-mackey-corner-office-whole-foods.html

"I don�t think there�s an access problem. I think there�s a market demand problem. People have got to become wiser about their food choices. And if people want different foods, the market will provide it.
Whole Foods has opened up stores in inner cities. We�ve opened up stores in poor areas. And we see the choices. It�s less about access and more about people making poor choices, mostly due to ignorance."
:guillotine:

# ? Sep 26, 2020 20:29

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

He's also against unions and the minimum wage.

He also called the ACA fascism and uses data mining against employees to hire/fire them.

# ? Sep 26, 2020 20:32

Complications: Jun 19, 2014

spacetoaster posted:

"Stupid poor people. We opened a whole foods in their inner city neighborhood and they still wouldn't buy our food. It's because they're dumb." - Owner of Whole Foods

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/business/john-mackey-corner-office-whole-foods.html

quote:

We have to recognize both what business can do and what business cannot do. Any problem that we have in our society that a business can make money doing, it belongs in the private sector. Business could be doing a lot more in certain areas, if it was allowed to, like education and health care. Those are very highly regulated businesses. And so, in some sense, you have a lot more crony capitalism in highly regulated industries.
[...]
I�m merely saying that business is good at innovation. It�s good at trying new things. It�s good at disrupting. But you can only disrupt things when they�re not highly regulated.
[...]
But we have to make a distinction between people working in New York or San Francisco and those in Jackson, Miss., or Shreveport, La., where the average pay is significantly less and the cost of living is significantly less. So a high, $15 minimum wage makes a lot of sense in certain cities. It doesn�t make sense in other places where the average pay is a lot lower and the average cost of living is much lower. When you force the minimum wage up artificially above the market rates, you�re going to get high unemployment, and you�re going to make certain businesses not competitive any longer because they can�t afford to pay those kind of wages without raising their prices above what the customers would be willing to pay.

looooool

yes, the real problems with education and health care are that the government is too involved in it and should let the private sector run wild

of course, what businesses have to pay people has nothing to do with what they can afford why would I think a job's wages has any impact on poverty c'mon now

everybody knows people make the real money in the stock market anyway, jobs are a hobby

# ? Sep 26, 2020 20:50

Irradiation: Sep 14, 2005; I understand your frustration.

spacetoaster posted:

"Stupid poor people. We opened a whole foods in their inner city neighborhood and they still wouldn't buy our food. It's because they're dumb." - Owner of Whole Foods

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/business/john-mackey-corner-office-whole-foods.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UczgWmS_GY&t=131s

# ? Sep 26, 2020 20:54

TastyAvocado: Dec 9, 2009

This stuff doesn't usually bother me really but that article is infuriating, I'm flushed.

# ? Sep 26, 2020 20:57

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

TastyAvocado posted:

This stuff doesn't usually bother me really but that article is infuriating, I'm flushed.

It's because most modern capitalists are not explicitly colonialist in their personal views, so when you see a guy using the same talking points that were used to justify the Belgian Congo to justify his own business practices it's really jarring.

# ? Sep 26, 2020 21:25

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

I don't know why you guys are so mad, he tweeted a pride flag once. Obviously one of the good guys.

If any of you have Amazon Prime, the boys has some amazing bullshit corporate commercials using superheros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo28a58xFJE

Most recently they did on of queen maeve (the lesbian wonder woman knock off) gay pride candy bar.

# ? Sep 26, 2020 23:32

AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

spacetoaster posted:

I don't know why you guys are so mad, he tweeted a pride flag once. Obviously one of the good guys.

If any of you have Amazon Prime, the boys has some amazing bullshit corporate commercials using superheros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo28a58xFJE

Most recently they did on of queen maeve (the lesbian wonder woman knock off) gay pride candy bar.

All the woke marketing parody in that show has been on point this season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAXkaOKojL4

# ? Sep 27, 2020 01:18

netBuff: Nov 7, 2011; by Fluffdaddy

Ah yes, let me subscribe to Amazon Prime to watch this corporate "parody"

# ? Sep 27, 2020 01:26

Ham Equity: Apr 16, 2013; The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.; Grimey Drawer

netBuff posted:

Ah yes, let me subscribe to Amazon Prime to watch this corporate "parody"

The whole show is a relentless indictment of capitalism. It's a loving polemic.

And yeah, I recognize the irony in Amazon making money off of an anti-capitalist parable.

# ? Sep 27, 2020 01:28

inferis: Dec 30, 2003

wow i can�t believe rage against the machine was on a major label

# ? Sep 27, 2020 01:40

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

netBuff posted:

Ah yes, let me subscribe to Amazon Prime to watch this corporate "parody"

You got me.

I also own an iPhone.

# ? Sep 27, 2020 01:41

Main Paineframe: Oct 27, 2010

TastyAvocado posted:

This stuff doesn't usually bother me really but that article is infuriating, I'm flushed.

that's because he's totally lacking in self-awareness

if you think you're mad now, check out the evolution of his political views

quote:

SUNNI: Glad to hear it! I have a lot of things I'd like to touch on with you, and I don't want to take too much of your time, so let's jump right in. In doing some research, I found you being referred to as an "ex-leftist libertarian". I thought that a very odd phrase, since many individuals come to the freedom philosophy from a left perspective -- and lots of pro-freedom people are more concerned with personal and social issues than economic ones; that's generally considered to be a "leftist" slant. What do you think of that phrase? Does it fit you?

JOHN: I think that depends upon how "leftist" is defined. Usually people who define themselves as "leftists" are opposed to capitalism, economic freedom, and believe that the coercive power of government should be used to create more equality and social justice in society. Usually people on the left have sympathy for democratic socialism. When I was in my very early 20's I believed that democratic socialism was a more "just" economic system than democratic capitalism was. However, soon after I opened my first small natural food store back in 1978 with my girlfriend when I was 25, my political opinions began to shift. Operating a business was a real education for me. There were bills to pay and a payroll to be met and we had trouble doing either because we lost half of our initial $45,000 of capital in our first year. Our customers thought our prices were too high and our employees thought they were being underpaid, and we were losing money. Renee and I were only being paid about $200 a month and the business was a real struggle. Nobody was very happy and Renee and I were now seen as capitalistic exploiters by friends on the left who believed we were overcharging our customers and exploiting our workers -- all because we were apparently selfish and greedy.

I didn't think the charge of capitalist exploiters fit Renee and myself very well. In a nutshell the economic system of democratic socialism was no longer intellectually satisfying to me and I began to look around for more robust theories which would better explain business, economics, and society. Somehow or another I stumbled on to the works of Mises, Hayek, and Friedman, and had a complete revolution in my world view. The more I read, studied, and thought about economics and capitalism, the more I came to realize that capitalism had been misunderstood and unfairly attacked by the left. In fact, democratic capitalism remains by far the best way to organize society to create prosperity, growth, freedom, self-actualization, and even equality.

I no longer think of myself as a leftist, but I definitely don't think of myself as from the right either. For the past 25 years I've thought of myself as a libertarian, but I'm now beginning to move away from that label as well. I have a number of intellectual problems with libertarianism as a political philosophy as it currently exists. I believe we need a new social/political/economical/environmental movement in the world today and I've got some definite ideas what this movement should look like.

# ? Sep 27, 2020 01:44

Taintrunner: Apr 10, 2017; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Thanatosian posted:

The whole show is a relentless indictment of capitalism. It's a loving polemic.

And yeah, I recognize the irony in Amazon making money off of an anti-capitalist parable.

Yeah, it's hilarious and also probably one of the only decent superhero pieces of media ever made. It's relentlessly in touch with just how hosed modern society's become, and god, the show hates it so much.

# ? Sep 27, 2020 01:52

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

The Boys is good but they did love sausage dirty

# ? Sep 27, 2020 02:00

AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

Cold on a Cob posted:

The Boys is good but they did love sausage dirty

# ? Sep 27, 2020 02:54

voiceless anal fricative: May 6, 2007

netBuff posted:

Ah yes, let me subscribe to Amazon Prime to watch this corporate "parody"

steal it you dummy

# ? Sep 27, 2020 03:09

Mr Interweb: Aug 25, 2004

Irradiation posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UczgWmS_GY&t=131s

i liked this clip so much i decided to watch the whole thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szW61MGb-mI

# ? Sep 27, 2020 03:16

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

Main Paineframe posted:

that's because he's totally lacking in self-awareness

if you think you're mad now, check out the evolution of his political views

no thank you.

# ? Sep 27, 2020 04:01

ikanreed: Sep 25, 2009; I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

inferis posted:

wow i can’t believe rage against the machine was on a major label

There's a lot of profit in selling the rope to hang yourself

# ? Sep 27, 2020 04:08

T-man: Aug 22, 2010; Talk shit, get bzzzt.

data should never be for sale

and you should never pay for it

Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!
Yarr har fiddle dee dee
Being a pirate is alright to be
Do what you want cause a pirate is free
You are a pirate!
You are a pirate!
Yeah!

# ? Sep 27, 2020 05:24

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

blatman posted:

to be fair lsd costs like a dollar a liter if you know a chemist with dubious morals and you can have unlimited sugar cubes if you just confidently walk into car dealerships and raid their coffee kiosk

LSD was the only drug that never ever gave me a bad trip or left me with awful side effects and it's like the only one I still wish I could do again now as a Responsible Adult but I don't know any cool kids with connections and I sure as hell am not gonna buy A Bitcoin :sigh:

# ? Sep 27, 2020 06:40

50s girl groupon: Jul 17, 2010; I woke up like this

T-man posted:

data should never be for sale

and you should never pay for it

Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!
Yarr har fiddle dee dee
Being a pirate is alright to be
Do what you want cause a pirate is free
You are a pirate!
You are a pirate!
Yeah!