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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
What thread was it that had the tweet about the number of british cops that have died in the line of duty and it started in like 1640

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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

failing New York Times

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
deplorables

elaboration
Feb 21, 2020
Just remembered that some guy held the president of (the) Ukraine hostage until he tweeted an endorsement of some joaquin phoenix movie about veganism

https://twitter.com/JonahFisherBBC/status/1285652616664489984

and also when lula finally got sprung and released a vid of him lifting weights to eye of the tiger. i wish the video was still on here but the vid got owned on copyright grounds, rip

https://twitter.com/LulaOficial/status/1192888341584322562

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

Judge Dredd Scott posted:

Just remembered that some guy held the president of (the) Ukraine hostage until he tweeted an endorsement of some joaquin phoenix movie about veganism

https://twitter.com/JonahFisherBBC/status/1285652616664489984

and also when lula finally got sprung and released a vid of him lifting weights to eye of the tiger. i wish the video was still on here but the vid got owned on copyright grounds, rip

https://twitter.com/LulaOficial/status/1192888341584322562

lol just downloaded that movie. I will post a watch report later.

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Didn't Kruschev see a bog-standard US grocery store and refuse to believe it wasn't an elaborate potemkin village style set-up? Was that just propaganda i was fed, or was the USSR just badly managed enough that basic American prosperity was unbelievable?

Milo and POTUS posted:

It was a defector I think

Viktor Belenko.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
joe biden spent astronomically less time in iowa than any other major 2020 candidate

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
mitch mcconnell specifically referenced the Diamond Joe Biden onion articles during joe biden's goodbye speech to the senate

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

liberals putting all of their hopes and dreams about the future of their country on the shoulders of one 900 year old woman who developed a new type of cancer every week

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Pick posted:

mitch mcconnell specifically referenced the Diamond Joe Biden onion articles during joe biden's goodbye speech to the senate

diamond joe biden was described as lusting after highschool girls

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Didn't Kruschev see a bog-standard US grocery store and refuse to believe it wasn't an elaborate potemkin village style set-up? Was that just propaganda i was fed, or was the USSR just badly managed enough that basic American prosperity was unbelievable?

This is some propoganda poo poo, as far as I can tell, from talking to people who lived under communism. It's kind of like that dumbasses tweet from Cuba, where he takes a picture in front of a wall of cans labeled "beans" and "tomatoes" in a fully stocked grocery store as some proof of how horrible communism is. Not having 20 different brands produced by two conglomerates is horrifying somehow. According to my Balkan father in law there were sometimes shortages but the overall the quality of the products was much higher than what you find in stores now - and this dude is super picky about the best quality local food, so I believe him. So you only had a choice to get "butter" wrapped in white paper, but it was some local grass fed poo poo. This might not be as true in other countries, I don't know, after all Russian salad exists. Another friend (again from a Balkan country) told me that when he visited Hungary on a school trip in the 80s they were all blown away - like Kruschev or the defector in your story or whoever - because there were actually different brands of things available which made it feel hugely prosperous. When he told me that story, he made it clear that he was a teenager outside of his home country for the first time.

So there might be some truth to it, after all, but when it's presented without any context it really comes across like pure propoganda. People in communist countries had grocery stores full of food available to them. The fact you can go buy frozen shrimp caught by slaves in Thailand for pennies is, I guess, a triumph of capitalism in some ways but gently caress that poo poo.

Pictured below: mismanagement of food distribution under Communism (also extremely on topic thread material lol)
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1174871396855382016?s=20

IAMKOREA has issued a correction as of 07:00 on Sep 27, 2020

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

I love a cool dude who wears a cap indoors.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Osama Bin Laden's total smokeshow of a niece endorsed Trump.

e: And she's a QAnon person, even.

Mantis42 has issued a correction as of 08:38 on Sep 27, 2020

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Mantis42 posted:

Osama Bin Laden's total smokeshow of a niece endorsed Trump.

e: And she's a QAnon person, even.

Hahaha no way. Link?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Milo and POTUS posted:

Hahaha no way. Link?

https://torontosun.com/news/world/osama-bin-ladens-niece-backs-trump-in-u-s-election

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9lvzzH0STw

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

IAMKOREA posted:

Not having 20 different brands produced by two conglomerates is horrifying somehow.

This is kinda true on a psychological level. Everybody agrees that the quality of goods was better in the USSR (no planned obsolescence, home appliances meant to last for decades), but the Western storefronts just get under your skin. Letting global advertisers in was like a splash of color in a socrealist-dominated media landscape.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
The Kruschev in a grocer moment is probably just a misremembering of another incident where Yeltsin went to a grocery store in 89

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/6kh3dw/ive_heard_that_yeltsin_was_famously_shocked_by/

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Spergin Morlock posted:

lol just downloaded that movie. I will post a watch report later.

I liked earthlings so I'm giving the guy who held the president hostage over a solid 5 stars

Dave Concepcion
Mar 19, 2012

Ruffian Price posted:

This is kinda true on a psychological level. Everybody agrees that the quality of goods was better in the USSR (no planned obsolescence, home appliances meant to last for decades), but the Western storefronts just get under your skin. Letting global advertisers in was like a splash of color in a socrealist-dominated media landscape.

western products being utter
poo poo made to break is a newish thing, you’d have to be a special kinda of weird to prefer a soviet washing machine from the 60s over a west German one

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Soviet citizens on average got the same amount of calories as Americans in the 80s.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
also it's not like we have radically more food manufacturers on the shelves today

a shitload of "different brands" in fact aren't, including the generic store brands

thetan_guy42
Oct 15, 2016

murdera

Lipstick Apathy

This was supposed to be the red wedding moment when hooded assassins revealed themselves and slaughtered every pigdog in the room

crazy eyes mustafa
Nov 30, 2014
Planned obsolescence was invented in the 50s but mostly manifested in people buying new things because they wanted to (new stuff is coming out every year and being marketed as being fresh and in style) and were able to with greater disposable income. In the last few decades it's because things are designed to break before the end of their lifetime and people are compelled to buy new things whether the money is there or not.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


crazy eyes mustafa posted:

Planned obsolescence was invented in the 50s but mostly manifested in people buying new things because they wanted to (new stuff is coming out every year and being marketed as being fresh and in style) and were able to with greater disposable income. In the last few decades it's because things are designed to break before the end of their lifetime and people are compelled to buy new things whether the money is there or not.

Wasn't Orwell critiquing planned obsolescence in the 30s?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Famously listened to often Orwell

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011

A friendly little mouse!

Ruffian Price posted:

Everybody agrees that the quality of goods was better in the USSR

Have you ever driven a Lada?

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Benny Johnson, fired from buzzfeed for plagiarism, went to a restaurant supply store in Cuba and posted a fully stocked shelf as an own on socialism because there weren't 50 different brands of an identical product

Also his shoes were like 6 sizes too big

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1174871396855382016?s=19

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Not really political but 10 points to whoever can name the owner of these feet

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011
well they're not AOC's

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


paul_soccer12 posted:

Not really political but 10 points to whoever can name the owner of these feet



Arthur Chu.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
put it in H

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Tiler Kiwi posted:

The Kruschev in a grocer moment is probably just a misremembering of another incident where Yeltsin went to a grocery store in 89

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/6kh3dw/ive_heard_that_yeltsin_was_famously_shocked_by/

IIRC Nixon (as VP) did show Kruschev some stuff but Kruschev played it cool, even saying 'you think color TV impresses me well, I'm sorry to tell you we have color TV in the soviet union.' even though I think he didn't get how ubiquitous color TV was rather than simply having it

except about corn, corn blew his mind and he went back and had the planners draw up a huge corn strategy to get lots of corn into every home

something like that

edit: oh that reddit link talks about it, the kitchen debate

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 21:09 on Sep 27, 2020

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

:greenangel:

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
the time that donald trump called a kid stupid for believing in santa during his christmas calls to american children

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
"At your age thats pretty marginal right?"

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

Antonymous posted:

IIRC Nixon (as VP) did show Kruschev some stuff but Kruschev played it cool, even saying 'you think color TV impresses me well, I'm sorry to tell you we have color TV in the soviet union.' even though I think he didn't get how ubiquitous color TV was rather than simply having it

except about corn, corn blew his mind and he went back and had the planners draw up a huge corn strategy to get lots of corn into every home

something like that

edit: oh that reddit link talks about it, the kitchen debate

Ive got a matryoshka doll of all the soviet leaders + nicholas and yeltsin, and the kruschrev doll is depicted holding a big husk of corn

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Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord
i want to love something even half as much as nikita khrushchev loved corn

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