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Spergin Morlock posted:that would be awesome my main beef against Syrian regime change advocates is how ungrateful they are towards the US.
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IAMKOREA posted:Is there like a cspam qcs? The ik in the cspam gun thread is probing people for dunking on Bellingcat (check last two pages) and I just feel like it's antithetical to everything cspam stands for. Didn't know where to post this but thought some comrades might be found in the ME thread. anyone who works for bellingcat should be permaed
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PawParole posted:War between Armenia and Azerbaijan has broken out I was just coming to post about this. Reports are Azerbaijan is attacking across the entirety of the LOC, but that Armenian positions are holding. Azerbaijan has apparently shutdown all social media except for Twitter. https://twitter.com/armine_grig/status/1310073013946265600?s=20 https://twitter.com/PAraqelyan/status/1310078646862909440?s=20 Translated statement from Armenian President Nikol Pashinyan: quote:Dear people, proud citizens of the Republic of Armenia, proud citizens of the Artsakh Republic, proud Armenians of the Diaspora. Statement from spokesperson Vahram Poghosyan for the Karabakh President quote:It is a war to the death, we will all fight to the death. We will wage a national war, we will win a national victory. edit: Video of Armenian tanks, artillery, and troops moving to the front. https://www.facebook.com/Artsakh1.am/videos/329363071472097/UzpfSTEzNzgzNjgwNzkxNTAyNTA6Mjc2MjYzMDI4NzM5MDY4Mg/ edit2: President Harutyunyan's statement: https://twitter.com/Pres_Artsakh/status/1310107311793491968?s=20 OhFunny has issued a correction as of 07:59 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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This is the first like, post Hussein real rear end nation vs nation war that I can even think of in my lifetime. LIke not some insurgency poo poo or proxy war bullshit. Like a real goddamn war.
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mcclay posted:This is the first like, post Hussein real rear end nation vs nation war that I can even think of in my lifetime. LIke not some insurgency poo poo or proxy war bullshit. Like a real goddamn war. There was the Russian-Georgian War in 2008, but not a lot of people seem to remember that.
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OhFunny posted:There was the Russian-Georgian War in 2008, but not a lot of people seem to remember that. I was still in elementary school then so that doesn't count  On a more serious note, this shows how much Pax Americana has atrophied and decayed. Our ability to actually project force and control our puppets and tributaries enough has gone so down the drain that the preiphary has started to resume its old grudges. I can only imagine that we'll see more conflicts spark up as American power is proven to be more and more gilded. Still, this means that the old capitalist 'no two countries with a MacDonald's have ever gone to war!" chestnut isn't true anymore.
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mcclay posted:This is the first like, post Hussein real rear end nation vs nation war that I can even think of in my lifetime. LIke not some insurgency poo poo or proxy war bullshit. Like a real goddamn war. More intense fighting has happened before along Azr-Arm disputed zone, hesitate to call this official war yet. Also, I do not believe Russia will allow this. If one side starts to win, they will enforce status que ante bellum -- by force.
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OhFunny posted:I was just coming to post about this. Reports are Azerbaijan is attacking across the entirety of the LOC, but that Armenian positions are holding. from the azeri side https://twitter.com/TSmaylov/status/1310067201681043456 https://twitter.com/sabinahasanova7/status/1310065137903165441
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mcclay posted:This is the first like, post Hussein real rear end nation vs nation war that I can even think of in my lifetime. LIke not some insurgency poo poo or proxy war bullshit. Like a real goddamn war. Get ready for some post-cold war genocide if the Azeris win, and some post cold war ethnic cleansing if the Armenians do.
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Vasukhani posted:Get ready for some post-cold war genocide if the Azeris win, and some post cold war ethnic cleansing if the Armenians do. that is less than ideal, yes
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Sep 27, 2020 08:29
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Apparently a hundred people died when the conflict heated up in 2016 so I guess all-out war could still be a ways off.
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Not that it concerns me but I hope Armenia whoops Azerbaijans rear end backwards.
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Syncopated posted:Apparently a hundred people died when the conflict heated up in 2016 so I guess all-out war could still be a ways off. first time stepanakert has been shelled since 1994 though, social media black out in effect. We won't know for a few hours.
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Sep 27, 2020 08:38
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oh is just a bit of a sunday afternoon warring, nothing to get concerned about. the boys have been doing this for a long time, so let them steam off a bit and throw a couple cutey rockys at each other. its good practice, for you know, later
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Sep 27, 2020 08:39
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Al-Saqr posted:Not that it concerns me but I hope Armenia whoops Azerbaijans rear end backwards. I think that is the second best outcome. Best is daddy Russia says cut it out and less than 100 people die. This is Aliyev's falklands
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mcclay posted:I was still in elementary school then so that doesn't count While American power is waning. The Caucasus has always been Russia's in sphere of influence even during the height of US hegemony. Armenia has and remains a Russian ally with Russian forces stationed in the country. Georgia was harshly remained by the '08 war that movement towards the West won't be tolerated. I'm less clear on Azerbaijan besides it's military purchases from Israel and it's relationship with Turkey. Speaking of... Anyone have access to Turkish media that can verify this? https://twitter.com/Zinvor/status/1310090420391759881?s=20 edit: Artsakh President has declared martial law and has ordered the mobilization for all persons over 18. OhFunny has issued a correction as of 08:51 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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OhFunny posted:While American power is waning. The Caucasus has always been Russia's in sphere of influence even during the height of US hegemony. Armenia has and remains a Russian ally with Russian forces stationed in the country. Georgia was harshly remained by the '08 war that movement towards the West won't be tolerated. I'm less clear on Azerbaijan besides it's military purchases from Israel and it's relationship with Turkey. Speaking of... This is the story. Nothing is verifiable. Turkey has been saying that Armenia is shipping in PKK militants which is hilarious. Others are saying Turkey is shipping in Syrian Jihadistst. IDK how willing they'd be to fight for Shi'a atheists tho
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Sep 27, 2020 08:51
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Azerbaijani President Aliyev is speaking now. This account is live translating: https://twitter.com/cavidaga/status/1310123318322835457?s=20
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OhFunny posted:While American power is waning. The Caucasus has always been Russia's in sphere of influence even during the height of US hegemony. Armenia has and remains a Russian ally with Russian forces stationed in the country. Georgia was harshly remained by the '08 war that movement towards the West won't be tolerated. I'm less clear on Azerbaijan besides it's military purchases from Israel and it's relationship with Turkey. Speaking of... I mean I'm sure the Turkish government knew because there's no way Azeribaijan didn't hash it out with the regional power, but I doubt the war correspondent is part of it. The countries share a border and have a chummy relationship, and most of the big stations probably keep a war correspondent in Baku on standby at all times. e: Both countries combined are about the size of South Florida, from Orlando to Homestead. Not exactly huge distances to travel. Zedhe Khoja has issued a correction as of 09:09 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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OhFunny posted:Azerbaijani President Aliyev is speaking now. This account is live translating: https://twitter.com/cavidaga/status/1310127354757484546
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Is Armenia a democracy or a one-party state? I know that Azerbaijan is a lovely turd dictatorship so I’m just looking for more excuses to cheer on Armenia.
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Al-Saqr posted:Is Armenia a democracy or a one-party state? I know that Azerbaijan is a lovely turd dictatorship so I’m just looking for more excuses to cheer on Armenia. it's kinda a normal post soviet democracy. So oligarchs and poo poo and corruption, but not autocratic like Azerbaijan. But they had their own color revolution.
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Somewhere in the UK, a doughy middle aged man cracks his knuckles and boots up Google Chrome. "Here we go again," he sighs as he gets to work. The site? Google.com. The query? "Pictures of Azeri munitions site:Wikipedia.org."
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Vasukhani posted:it's kinda a normal post soviet democracy. So oligarchs and poo poo and corruption, but not autocratic like Azerbaijan. But they had their own color revolution. Ah ok, well good luck to the Armenians, here’s hoping they stick it to Aliyev.
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Al-Saqr posted:Ah ok, well good luck to the Armenians, here’s hoping they stick it to Aliyev. IDK if Aliyev even wants to win, just use some bodies to buy some time, rally around the flag
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oz katerji hasn't had time to read the wikipedia page and demand we must bomb something in the new statesman, so i'm unable to formulate my own take abt this yet
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gh0stpinballa posted:oz katerji hasn't had time to read the wikipedia page and demand we must bomb something in the new statesman, so i'm unable to formulate my own take abt this yet If Armenia wins or Russia comes in on their side, the Biden state dept will endorse Pan Turkism and revise its status on ... previous historical occurrences.
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Vasukhani posted:IDK if Aliyev even wants to win, just use some bodies to buy some time, rally around the flag Always a very risky move. People don't look kindly on their sons returning home in caskets for a stalemate. https://twitter.com/cavidaga/status/1310132926223351809?s=20 Armenian President Pashinyan has declared martial law and ordered general mobilization. quote:Dear compatriots! edit: I can't find a direct source, but am reading that the city of Vartsrun in Armenia is under rocket attack. That's possible. The northern road into Artsakh runs from the border to there and links with the north/west roads in Armenia at Vartsrun. edit2: Some more combat footage from Armenian MoD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfWFKtXTlpY OhFunny has issued a correction as of 10:41 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/ArmenianUnified/status/1310152045924700160?s=20quote:At the moment, with resolute counterattack, the Defense Army of Artsakh is suspending all attempts of adversary causing casualties. As the guarantor of Artsakh's security Armed Forces of Armenia are ready to provide any assistance to ensure security of the population of Artsakh. It is already clear that the Azerbaijani authorities have not learned lessons from the inglorious defeats of the past and have, once again, overestimated their potential, and I am certain they will be strictly punished for that. This venture will cause dire consequences for the enemy. Our response will be as coarse as ever. The Armenian army possesses all the necessary resources to crush the enemy encroaching against our homeland once again. Azerbaijan says no need for military mobilization over Nagorno-Karabakh From Azerbaijan https://twitter.com/cavidaga/status/1310159088937041921?s=20 edit: These would be in the southeastern part Artsakh OhFunny has issued a correction as of 11:17 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/armenia/status/1310165919344320513/ edit real news https://twitter.com/ShStepanyan/status/1310174440391573505 i say swears online has issued a correction as of 14:55 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:azerbaijan seems really, really, bad at operating tanks There is another one not linked with the 30 foot jets of fire screaming out of the crew compartment. One of the ones zooms in and cuts out an infantry squad nearby. Maybe some of these are not contemporaneous or real.
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Stringent posted:man, i hope armenia wins lots of great folks do! https://twitter.com/MarcoPo11284516/status/1310191318472290304
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i say swears online posted:lots of great folks do! God I hate Brazilian fascists
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https://twitter.com/Artak_Beglaryan/status/1310221838346223616?s=19 First causality figures from Artsakh.
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