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kloa posted:Can I buy this dumb card yet or should I check back in a few At this point you may as well wait until they figure out for sure what is making some $700+ cards crash.
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jaete posted:Yeah would be good to know. I think there haven't been any restock events, just the 3080 launch and then the 3090 launch, but haven't followed super closely, just glancing at that one Discord every now and then. I've been running a script to refresh the Nvidia official 3080 page (UK edition) for hours at a time but nothing, lol
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jaete posted:Yeah would be good to know. I think there haven't been any restock events, just the 3080 launch and then the 3090 launch, but haven't followed super closely, just glancing at that one Discord every now and then. I've been running a script to refresh the Nvidia official 3080 page (UK edition) for hours at a time but nothing, lol There was one restock last week but it was at like 5am UK time, which is some real bullshit. edit, beaten like my f5 key
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Knot My President! posted:Anyone know of any updates to when FE is coming back in stock?
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Inept posted:At this point you may as well wait until they figure out for sure what is making some $700+ cards crash. Yeah I'm feeling extremely happy about getting that xbox preorder now. I can push pause on a new build until spring and see how everything has shook out.
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So I got a Palit OC card on launch day, my order is backlogged till who knows when... I also bought a EKWB block for it, which is on pre-order. I totally think my block is going to get to me before the card.... lol. But now there’s this whole crashing issue, and apparently the Palit might be on the bottom end of the quality of components list.. I’m a little anxious. I might just keep trying for a FE, since it’s either I keep my reference spec board, or get a FE since both will fit in my SFFPC. This launch sucks.
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Alchenar posted:Yeah I'm feeling extremely happy about getting that xbox preorder now. I can push pause on a new build until spring and see how everything has shook out. We got a live one here boys
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Alchenar posted:Yeah I'm feeling extremely happy about getting that xbox preorder now. I can push pause on a new build until spring and see how everything has shook out. uhhh but can your new xbox play ut99 at 4k/300 fps? that's what i thought. lmao 3080 wins again
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It has been pretty frustrating. $820 after taxes and shipping for a card that keeps making GBS threads the bed during gaming and now I'm having to do more troubleshooting to determine exactly what is going on. Put my 1080ti back in last night, ran DDU, and it was stable on one of the games the 3080 kept crashing in. Gonna test a bit more but it looks like this is going back to Newegg, and God knows how long it's gonna be until I receive a replacement.
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Into The Mild posted:But now there’s this whole crashing issue, and apparently the Palit might be on the bottom end of the quality of components list.. I’m a little anxious. Palit have one MLCC group so they're probably OK https://www.techpowerup.com/review/palit-geforce-rtx-3080-gaming-pro-oc/3.html It's the ones with no MLCCs at all that seem to be trouble
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3080 havers, if you haven't played Control I can't recommend it enough. It's an excellent game and the raytraced lighting's consistently incredible. Still images don't do it justice, but: 1. Projector shadow. 2. Projected image on the Jesse model 3. Reflection of the projector screen in the glass, shadow handled correctly 4. Reflection of Jesse in the glass, including the projected image. I played through it back to back on an older system and my 2080 and there's a huge difference.
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repiv posted:The 3070 FE really isn't going to fare well compared to the AIB 3070s with recycled 3080 coolers is it
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ufarn posted:EVGA have demoed a bunch what I assume are 3D-printed alternatives to the RGB and side accents fwiw. But those have to go into production and whatnot first of course. It's only for the red plastic on the ends of the card.
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Sep 27, 2020 19:07
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9/23 still no shipping email from nvidia crew!
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Symetrique posted:It's only for the red plastic on the ends of the card. The part you'll never really see?
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Fauxtool posted:9/23 still no shipping email from nvidia crew! I have a feeling that we won’t see changes until tomorrow.
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Fauxtool posted:9/23 still no shipping email from nvidia crew! My 9/23 card was supposed to be delivered today but the tracking says it hasn't even left Minneapolis FedEx origin facility yet <  >
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Fauxtool posted:9/23 still no shipping email from nvidia crew! Jensen ship my card!
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jisforjosh posted:The part you'll never really see? You'll only see it in pictures of the cards, Joshua. If you have a case with a window you'll definitely see one of the red accents. It's surprisingly prominent
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repiv posted:Palit have one MLCC group so they're probably OK Except that the Gigabyte Gaming OC which me and another goon have, have 6 POSCAP groups and are totally stable. I don't think it's that simple.
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jisforjosh posted:The part you'll never really see? considering that it's basically impossible to buy a case without a window any more, i assume that every Gamer these days has their pc front and center on their desk and spends half their day staring inside at the lights and tubes. anyway the red accent is perfectly fine because you're a scrub if you use any color of lighting that isn't red.
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Symetrique posted:If you have a case with a window you'll definitely see one of the red accents. It's surprisingly prominent There's a pretty simple solution to this. Even if you came down with a case of temporary Ridiculous Gamer Brain and made the mistake of buying a case with a window in the first place, a $3 can of black Krylon can fix that problem for you in about five minutes. e: Sagebrush posted:considering that it's basically impossible to buy a case without a window any more, i assume that every Gamer these days has their pc front and center on their desk and spends half their day staring inside at the lights and tubes. Have you heard the good word, my son? Have you seen the lack of ridiculous light? Space Gopher fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Sep 27, 2020 |
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I still haven't received the card I ordered on 9/17 thanks to Fedex. It's literally been out on a vehicle for three days, but for some reason they haven't delivered it.
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Rusty posted:I still haven't received the card I ordered on 9/17 thanks to Fedex. It's literally been out on a vehicle for three days, but for some reason they haven't delivered it. fedex guy stole it
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Sagebrush posted:fedex guy stole it
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AirRaid posted:Except that the Gigabyte Gaming OC which me and another goon have, have 6 POSCAP groups and are totally stable. I don't think it's that simple. I'm sure it's not that simple, just pointing out that there's no particular red flags with Palit AFAIK I wonder if PSU quality is a factor with the cap thing, if your incoming supply is extremely stable maybe the caps don't matter as much
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Space Gopher posted:There's a pretty simple solution to this. Yeah not sure how great the evga warranty is when you spray paint a part of the card. Better to just wait for the caps evga is releasing for free. My case doesn't have windows on the sides so it doesn't bother me, but I was surprised at how prominent they were.
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Sagebrush posted:considering that it's basically impossible to buy a case without a window any more, i assume that every Gamer these days has their pc front and center on their desk and spends half their day staring inside at the lights and tubes. Magenta and cyan for the Gaymer Agenda
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I'm gonna ask evga Jacob for a replacement cap in noctua beige or brown
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Symetrique posted:Yeah not sure how great the evga warranty is when you spray paint a part of the card. Better to just wait for the caps evga is releasing for free. My case doesn't have windows on the sides so it doesn't bother me, but I was surprised at how prominent they were. If you spray paint a transparent surface, such as a window, it becomes opaque. Then you don't have to look at whatever's behind it. Paint the inside of the window for best results. Now you've just got a glossy panel in whatever color you want!
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repiv posted:I wonder if PSU quality is a factor with the cap thing, if your incoming supply is extremely stable maybe the caps don't matter as much It's pretty interesting to see what happens on PCB traces if there weren't any bypass caps. You can see voltages drop and spike, and see reflections of said spikes, all because electrons need to get moving and the whole shebang having inertia.
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DrDork posted:15mm isn't that significant, though--only about 5% of its total length. The decision to stay 2 slot instead of 2.5 or so certainly is hindering it, you're right. Still, considering that it's a massive almost solid block of metal with what should be excellent airflow, and 1/3 of the board being a "flow-through" segment, it is disappointing that it falls so far behind more traditional coolers. I wouldn't have been surprised to find it 5C behind, but 15C is way more than I expected. interestingly jayz just posted a video where the FE beat the EVGA XC3 by 15C in the same test conditions.
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Space Gopher posted:If you spray paint a transparent surface, such as a window, it becomes opaque. Then you don't have to look at whatever's behind it. Yeah, misunderstood. I saw too many idiots on reddit talking about painting the actual red plastic with plasti dip or a sharpie and I thought you were suggesting the same. My case doesn't have windows so it doesn't bother me. But I can still understand why people hate the look.
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Space Gopher posted:There's a pretty simple solution to this. Unfortunately it's really not a solution because any case with good airflow will let a ton of light leak out. RGB is a blight on computers that must be purged.
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Fauxtool posted:9/23 still no shipping email from nvidia crew!  Ahhh it's so close now! Says the deliver date is tomorrow. Was hoping it would arrive today!
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Parallelwoody posted:It has been pretty frustrating. $820 after taxes and shipping for a card that keeps making GBS threads the bed during gaming and now I'm having to do more troubleshooting to determine exactly what is going on. Put my 1080ti back in last night, ran DDU, and it was stable on one of the games the 3080 kept crashing in. Gonna test a bit more but it looks like this is going back to Newegg, and God knows how long it's gonna be until I receive a replacement. I assume you've already tried limiting the boost to like 1900 or 1950 to rule out the maybe-power-delivery-maybe not problem that's all the rage lately?
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Parallelwoody posted:Put my 1080ti back in last night, ran DDU, and it was stable on one of the games the 3080 kept crashing in. Gonna test a bit more but it looks like this is going back to Newegg, and God knows how long it's gonna be until I receive a replacement. AirRaid posted:Except that the Gigabyte Gaming OC which me and another goon have, have 6 POSCAP groups and are totally stable. I don't think it's that simple. repiv posted:I'm sure it's not that simple, just pointing out that there's no particular red flags with Palit AFAIK
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Combat Pretzel posted:Partly maybe. The point of bypass capacitors is to serve immediate energy demands of the chip (or any other components), and that's why they're that close. That's the high frequency noise they are filtering out. Effectively they are like mini super fast reacting rechargeable batteries tied to the inputs of the part that help keep the voltage at exactly the level it's supposed to be by providing power when the voltage dips and sucking up power when it spikes. (Caps and rechargeable batteries are very very different, but it's a helpful analogy). Pretty much every digital IC (integrated circuit) that exists on any circuit board requires bypass capacitors as close to the input power pins as possible to filter out that noise and keep the power steady. A lot of parts only need a small amount of capacitance, but the Nvidia GPU is a sensitive power hungry beast that requires a whole lot of capacitance (the banks of MLCCs and/or other caps depending on the manufacturer). As clock frequencies get higher and higher this stuff gets incredibly difficult and detailed such that everything from the layout of traces to the different layers of the PCB and materials they are made out of makes a huge difference. It's pretty cool (to me) getting a detailed look at some of this stuff.
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AirRaid posted:Except that the Gigabyte Gaming OC which me and another goon have, have 6 POSCAP groups and are totally stable. I don't think it's that simple. Exactly. Also there’s reports of FEs, and also the TUF card crashing. I get the feeling that this is something else. Maybe there’s more than one issue. But I feel it’s going to be fixed via software. And yeah the Palit has one MLCC group, but it also has 220uf caps... hearing how good the quality of the components are on the FE, from the latest buildzoid video makes me jealous.
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