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Kestral posted:I hear you, Gigolo, this year has broken me. I'm a lifelong CA resident and I love this state, but I can't take the fire anxiety anymore, I need to live in a place where my house and all my possessions aren't at constant risk of being randomly destroyed. Anyone know what the climate change forecast for New England is like? Seems reasonably safe if you don't buy something in a flood plain. New England is in a huge drought right now also
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I used to think we would all be fleeing to canada, but they burn down regularly now too, what with the pine bark beetle and the hot weather and stuff. There's not really anywhere to go that is going to be fine or better for sure. We gotta all stew in the mess our species has made and deal with the consequences until we either figure out how to sequester a vast amount of carbon, or witness the end of human civilization.
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Complications posted:baseless optimism? Yeah. That's about it isn't it
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Leperflesh posted:I used to think we would all be fleeing to canada, but they burn down regularly now too, what with the pine bark beetle and the hot weather and stuff. Yeah, Brown's thing of, "where ya gonna go, fool?" was spot on if a little cringey. There are any number of places within California that are highly not at risk of burning outside of, "this is the end of our state," but they're either more expensive or in not real nice places to live. Even so, you then need to deal with the AQI issues when other places are burning. But I've decided to take California's current outcomes over places that have Republican majorities/leadership (because lmao they're not gonna do poo poo, at least you might be able to primary the Dems), places with regular tornadoes/hurricanes, or places that also look to be having droughts (i.e. New England) because having not had major wildfires before means they are really not prepared to have one, even while the likelihood is increasing.
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Sep 29, 2020 18:09
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Oregon and Washington are going to have to barricade the borders.
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Sep 29, 2020 18:16
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Isn't the Big One supposed to come soon and wipe out their coastal cities, leaving only their chuddy rural heartland which has even crazier and more militia-y right wingers than we do?
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Sep 29, 2020 18:24
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HelloSailorSign posted:Isn't the Big One supposed to come soon and wipe out their coastal cities, leaving only their chuddy rural heartland which has even crazier and more militia-y right wingers than we do? Only in the NorCal, which doesn't count. 
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Sep 29, 2020 18:26
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HelloSailorSign posted:Isn't the Big One supposed to come soon and wipe out their coastal cities, leaving only their chuddy rural heartland which has even crazier and more militia-y right wingers than we do? That's when we swoop in and build New Los Angeles and New San Francisco
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Sep 29, 2020 18:27
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marshmonkey posted:That's when we swoop in and build New Los Angeles and New San Francisco Oh gently caress, Californian annexation I can get behind. Could you imagine Newsom in a bespoke leather metal studded tunic? rawr.
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HelloSailorSign posted:Oh gently caress, Californian annexation I can get behind. i can imagine him in a leash.
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HelloSailorSign posted:Oh gently caress, Californian annexation I can get behind.  Yes I can. eSporks fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Sep 29, 2020 |
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Sep 29, 2020 19:23
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HelloSailorSign posted:Isn't the Big One supposed to come soon and wipe out their coastal cities, leaving only their chuddy rural heartland which has even crazier and more militia-y right wingers than we do? People misread that report, the cataclysmic stuff is basically aimed at anything on the west of the Coast Range (which was described broadly as “West of I5”). Portland and Seattle would get the remnants of whatever disaster happened, but it’s not quite the same as something taking out everything west of the Cascades.
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Small White Dragon posted:Hypothetical -- if the state could not prohibit people from bringing in ICE vehicles, could they prohibit sales of gasoline for them? Perhaps this system would allow a non-registered user one-time access by paying a flat fee of, I don't know, $20. They have to pay this each time unless they're registered. I imagine the state could mandate that the processing for that temporary access doesn't even need to be immediate. Something like that maybe? BeAuMaN fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Sep 29, 2020 |
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Sep 29, 2020 21:44
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Kestral posted:I hear you, Gigolo, this year has broken me. I'm a lifelong CA resident and I love this state, but I can't take the fire anxiety anymore, I need to live in a place where my house and all my possessions aren't at constant risk of being randomly destroyed. Anyone know what the climate change forecast for New England is like? Seems reasonably safe if you don't buy something in a flood plain. I don't mean to sound flippant but there's vast parts of California that aren't at direct risk of wildfires if you're looking to move away from that risk. You just wont be living in the woods.
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marshmonkey posted:That's when we swoop in and build New Los Angeles and New San Francisco if we're building a new LA can we put the red car back? that would be super cool
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Oregon and Washington won't be wiped out when the big one hits them... but their economies and infrastructure will be devastated, and the tsunami will kill more Americans than have ever died in a natural disaster in our entire history, unless you count diseases as natural disasters. We're talking devastation considerably worse than what Wilma did to Puerto Rico. They are very belatedly starting to sort of deal with the risks; building codes have been updated for example, and the state advises people to be ready for two weeks without services after a 7.0+ quake (the last one, in 1700, was a ~9.0). But the point here is that if you want to live in a place that is actually ready for an earthquake, CA is vastly better off than OR and WA.
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Sep 29, 2020 22:45
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Sep 29, 2020 22:46
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This 2015 piece from The New Yorker really lays out just how hosed the PNW would be in the event of a major earthquake (and subsequent tsunami): https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one Contains a truly inspired bit of historical detective work.
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Abolish prop 58 (2004). That is all. Edit: Actually, that's not all. Balanced budget acts have left states unable to deficit spend and after Arnold pushed one on California in 2004 only Vermont goes without one. We've reached the point in America where the federal government will only help a region that will join them in a war on the non-cishetwhite, so the state should be spending money it doesn't have right now so that it can reap the benefits of a revived economy earlier than anywhere else. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Sep 29, 2020 |
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Sep 29, 2020 22:57
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I just got a text in Sacramento asking me to vote yes on Measure A, so just a reminder for anyone who has a "strong mayor" ballot measure in their area that you should definitely vote no. Consolidating power into a single executive so they can rule the city like their own petty kingdom is terrible and should be opposed.
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Sep 29, 2020 23:55
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Its also being pitched by Steinburg as a benefit to BLM, saying that strong mayor would give him more control over police budgets. In meetings with BLM hes shown 0 interest in helping them out, and local BLM organizers are super against him.
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The strong mayor proposal got withdrawn in San Jose because it was sold as a package deal with an extension to the mayor’s term, and the mayor’s business faction overextended because he thought he’d gotten labor support to make it a fait accompli. He thought this because the (now former) head of the South Bay Labor Council was an incredibly stupid motherfucker who tried to negotiate a backroom deal with the mayor (using a police union rep as a go-between) without consulting the five pro-labor city council members and sprung it on them the day before. Like, you loving dipshit, one of them is planning to run for mayor when the current term is up! Yeah, he lost his position over that one.
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I'm not personally against a strong mayor system, but it's clear that Measure A is a power grab by Darrell Steinberg. He's also putting in other good things in the measure to make it look better than it actually is.
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just build your house in the form of Dome. fire cannot breach a Dome, cannot understand them. the shape is profane to fire, but is comforting for us. from our fetal stage to our graves, Domes can protect us and enable us to thrive. trust in the Dome as it trusts in itself.
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FCKGW posted:I don't mean to sound flippant but there's vast parts of California that aren't at direct risk of wildfires if you're looking to move away from that risk. You just wont be living in the woods. Just baking to death in 115 degree summers, while choking on smoke. Not a super appealing combination.
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Well then California Goon Project: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/...source=txtshare
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HelloSailorSign posted:Well then California Goon Project: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/...source=txtshare So what you've taken from this year is "we should go move into the forest"?
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Admiral Ray posted:just build your house in the form of Dome. fire cannot breach a Dome, cannot understand them. the shape is profane to fire, but is comforting for us. from our fetal stage to our graves, Domes can protect us and enable us to thrive. trust in the Dome as it trusts in itself.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:So what you've taken from this year is "we should go move into the forest"? Admiral Ray posted:just build your house in the form of Dome. fire cannot breach a Dome, cannot understand them. the shape is profane to fire, but is comforting for us. from our fetal stage to our graves, Domes can protect us and enable us to thrive. trust in the Dome as it trusts in itself.
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Kestral posted:Just baking to death in 115 degree summers, while choking on smoke. Not a super appealing combination. It's a big state bud
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Admiral Ray posted:just build your house in the form of Dome. fire cannot breach a Dome, cannot understand them. the shape is profane to fire, but is comforting for us. from our fetal stage to our graves, Domes can protect us and enable us to thrive. trust in the Dome as it trusts in itself.
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FCKGW posted:I don't mean to sound flippant but there's vast parts of California that aren't at direct risk of wildfires if you're looking to move away from that risk. You just wont be living in the woods. 
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Whoops we drained all the aquifers! Remember to vote!
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Sep 30, 2020 07:08
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Looks like it got removed. Got a screencap?
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Mitsuo posted:The strong mayor proposal got withdrawn in San Jose because it was sold as a package deal with an extension to the mayor’s term, and the mayor’s business faction overextended because he thought he’d gotten labor support to make it a fait accompli. Liccardo is a dipshit.
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Is there a general round up of what the thread consensus is on this years props without having to scroll back 20 pages? I've already done my research and roughly know how I'm voting, but I wanted to know what my fellow Californians were thinking.
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