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Kreeblah posted:I agree. How do you do that if they know you'll vote for them no matter what? -2016 Ah well nonetheless. /s Miracles can happen but there not called miracles because people should expect them and take them into account when making tactical decisions. .
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ratbert90 posted:The point is Joe and the DNC are bad and shouldn’t be rewarded for their terrible behavior. Everybody should vote 3rd party instead of for the people who looked at the boat that was listing to the right and decided that moving more and more to the right was better than moving to the left to center the boat. Yes, this will work out great, just like after 2000 and 2016 when we suffered through terrible presidencies due to close margins and yet after all the suffering a socialist utopia didn’t materialize. Maybe if we do it again...
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Glumwheels posted:Why should we care what these people think? They’re racist trump supporters through and through. Why do you think they are the way they are, and believe what they believe?
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spunkshui posted:The only people removing the Green party is the Green party for not following the rules or paying something on time or giving enough of a gently caress to actually get on the ballot themselves. is that why they were on the ballot until the democrats sued to remove them?
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ascii genitals posted:There are no 3rd parties with candidates that are inspiring. The green party has failed to move Democrats left in any election over, what, the last 30 years? No one is going to feel punished because you and two other morons are casting protest votes for some nobody. Get real. You could be doing real work to influence local and state elections, but instead you're here casting doom and gloom about voting against Trump. Ineffectual, uninspiring foolishness. The Trump supporting AG that just let the cops that murdered Taylor in her sleep was appointed by the Democrat Governor. So don’t give me this poo poo.
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ElrondHubbard posted:Yes, this will work out great, just like after 2000 and 2016 when we suffered through terrible presidencies due to close margins and yet after all the suffering a socialist utopia didn’t materialize. Maybe if we do it again...
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Fellwenner posted:And how has that worked so far? Worked really well for Nader voters in the 00's, also worked really well for Green/Libertarians in '16. Gore didn't win his home state, or any of the other states that would have clutched without Florida. Thats hardly Nader's fault that Gore sucked If you assume Green voters 'belonged' to Clinton (which is gross as gently caress by the way, and really the alternative to no Greens on the ticket is staying home) you must also assume Libertarians belonged to Trump. In that scenario Trump crushes Clinton even more decisively *and* takes the popular vote. Third party voters saved Clinton an even more humiliating defeat, because she sucked rear end beyond belief.
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Trump issued an executive order to end DACA. The courts ruled that he had the power to do so, but that the specifics of the way he did it were incorrect. With a second term, he will have time to reissue the order to end DACA, in a way that complies with the court-ordered restrictions. This will result in DACA recipients, who are already registered with federal law enforcement, suddenly becoming eligible for immediate deportation. Biden will not issue the same order. This is a significant difference between the two candidates. But hey, you don't have to care, it's not like Trump is going to send ICE after your friends or the people you love.
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ElrondHubbard posted:Yes, this will work out great, just like after 2000 and 2016 when we suffered through terrible presidencies due to close margins and yet after all the suffering a socialist utopia didn’t materialize. Maybe if we do it again... Your catastrophizing is rocking our rapidly dissolving life raft and I'm going to have to ask you to stop and seek therapy.
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ElrondHubbard posted:Yes, this will work out great, just like after 2000 and 2016 when we suffered through terrible presidencies due to close margins and yet after all the suffering a socialist utopia didn’t materialize. Maybe if we do it again... Perhaps the DNC should offer progressives reasons to vote for them then? Also if you gave all the libertarian votes to Trump he would have won the popular vote. Even if you gave all the Stein votes to Clinton.
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spunkshui posted:The only people removing the Green party is the Green party for not following the rules or paying something on time or giving enough of a gently caress to actually get on the ballot themselves. a really good lesson to learn from the past four years would be that the letter of the law doesn't matter, and only when you actually enforce it does it have any meaningful impact. having a bunch of regulation to stop any old dipshit from running in elections makes sense, sure, so you don't have your entire political process gummed up with idiots spamming it just to keep it from working, but strictly enforcing it to stop long standing political parties from getting on a ballot to try and gain votes for your own party is no different from republicans ignoring any of donald's illegal activities in office. it's blatant corruption and defending it makes you no different from the nazis.
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Fellwenner posted:Pick up your phone and call them! Write a physical letter, send an email, go to the local office of your representative, assuming you're not in pandemic lockdown. And they care about any of that because the downside to ignoring you is . . . ? Kreeblah fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Sep 30, 2020 |
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ratbert90 posted:The Trump supporting AG that just let the cops that murdered Taylor in her sleep was appointed by the Democrat Governor. So don’t give me this poo poo. Haha yeah electing a Democratic governor is going to fix Kentucky's problems lickety split in 1 year or it's a total failure--more magical thinking from Ratbert.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Please take some time to familiarize yourself with catastrophizing, it can have serious consequences. This entire year has been a catastrophe for the country, so I can sympathize with people who expect more of what they've already seen. 11% of Americans thought about suicide in June, compared to 4.3% in 2018. 18-24 year olds were 25%, like holy poo poo that is shocking. Mental health is a serious problem in this country and it doesn't get a lot of attention. I think people are reacting negatively to what you said because the first reaction is that you're just saying anyone that disagrees with you is mentally ill which is hosed. I think there is merit in saying that a lot of people right now could benefit from seeing a therapist. Even I have been feeling more anxiety than I've felt in years.
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Space Gopher posted:Trump issued an executive order to end DACA. why are you assuming the worst of trump? that's not very healthy
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ascii genitals posted:Haha yeah electing a Democratic governor is going to fix Kentucky's problems lickety split in 1 year or it's a total failure--more magical thinking from Ratbert. HE APPOINTED THE AG
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fart simpson posted:is that why they were on the ballot until the democrats sued to remove them? If they were on the ballot when they were not legally allowed to be on the ballot then they’re on the ballot because somebody is breaking the law. Now which political party would break the laws during the election, gosh I just I can’t put my finger on it.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Obama's ineffectual centrism led to Trump. Trumps effectual fascism leads to socialism It's so obvious!
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Space Gopher posted:Trump issued an executive order to end DACA. Is biden planning to reform immigration so that people are not living with the threat of the next hostile administration doing that? Cos like "we could deport people but we won't, if you vote for us" seems a bit lovely IMO. Though potentially a very smart thing to do because you can recycle the argument next election. "if you let the republicans in they will deport more people" OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Sep 30, 2020 |
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spunkshui posted:If they were on the ballot when they were not legally allowed to be on the ballot then they’re on the ballot because somebody is breaking the law. all of them? just a guess.
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fart simpson posted:why are you assuming the worst of trump? that's not very healthy Survey says... CATASTROPHIZING
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Minrad posted:a really good lesson to learn from the past four years would be that the letter of the law doesn't matter, and only when you actually enforce it does it have any meaningful impact. having a bunch of regulation to stop any old dipshit from running in elections makes sense, sure, so you don't have your entire political process gummed up with idiots spamming it just to keep it from working, but strictly enforcing it to stop long standing political parties from getting on a ballot to try and gain votes for your own party is no different from republicans ignoring any of donald's illegal activities in office. it's blatant corruption and defending it makes you no different from the nazis. Counterpoint: If they can’t navigate very basic bureaucracy, how are they expected to seriously function in government?
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ascii genitals posted:Haha yeah electing a Democratic governor is going to fix Kentucky's problems lickety split in 1 year or it's a total failure--more magical thinking from Ratbert. lmao the governor made a unilateral decision to appoint the AG and you somehow found a way to blame everyone but him lmao
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Popete posted:Trumps effectual fascism leads to socialism You've argued the contrapositive without any supporting evidence to claim it. Sad.
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OwlFancier posted:Is biden planning to reform immigration so that people are not living with the threat of the next hostile administration doing that? Seriously people have used "Shouldn't you be campagiging" argument against voter shaming. If didn't work then why should it work now?
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CNN debate poll looks good for Biden. Biden didn’t do a good job, but Trump just hosed up at a astonishing level.
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spunkshui posted:If they were on the ballot when they were not legally allowed to be on the ballot then they’re on the ballot because somebody is breaking the law. I wonder if you'll say the same thing when your democratic candidate gets removed for something similar
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fart simpson posted:all of them? just a guess. I’ll give you a hint: it’s the one that is also forging signatures to get more people on the ballot.
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1stGear posted:lmao the governor made a unilateral decision to appoint the AG and you somehow found a way to blame everyone but him lmao Voting for a democrat surely would have prevented a democrat from appointing a right wing AG! Wait...
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Yeah it looks like Biden "won" by most of the traditional metrics, despite Trump basically "owning" the debate, such as it was. If Biden's favorables don't move he's probably fine. If they drop a few points due to wrestling in the mud with a pig Trump may have moved the needle somewhat.
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ratbert90 posted:The Trump supporting AG that just let the cops that murdered Taylor in her sleep was appointed by the Democrat Governor. So don’t give me this poo poo. I don't mean this as a troll.... Did Beshear have other options besides appointing the state's elected Attorney General? I'm confused how Cameron got to put his horrible hands all over that case. In a functioning state that does not run on bad faith, the Attorney General would usually be a the conventional pick to make a volatile situation less volatile but Cameron seems not to be of the old "do my job" school.
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Code Jockey posted:I wonder if you'll say the same thing when your democratic candidate gets removed for something similar Yes? I’m not in it to break laws and have like weird political wins that are completely criminal.
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ElrondHubbard posted:Counterpoint: If they can’t navigate very basic bureaucracy, how are they expected to seriously function in government? it's not very basic, by design. in fact it's made overly complicated by the two ruling parties spread across 50 states all with differing mechanisms to encourage nobody else to be able to take power away from them. you think that's a good thing?
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Fellwenner posted:Pick up your phone and call them! Write a physical letter, send an email, go to the local office of your representative, assuming you're not in pandemic lockdown. remember when kids begged in person to Diane Feinstein to not let the planet burn and in return they got talked down to? Our leaders free to ignore us, withholding our vote is the only way to actually voice displeasure with how they’re running things
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spunkshui posted:If they were on the ballot when they were not legally allowed to be on the ballot then they’re on the ballot because somebody is breaking the law. so republicans can pass a law saying democrats can't be on ballots ever and you'd be totally fine with it? seems like a dumb point to take regardless of it being completely detached from the reality of why the greens were removed
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When your camp has to make these posts https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1311150978264170497?s=20
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spunkshui posted:Yes? why pay attention to politics if you're completely fine with fascism then?
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spunkshui posted:Yes? maybe I'm confused, are you talking about Kanye or Howie
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