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Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

Cardiovorax posted:

I was going to recommend that you just give Escape Velocity Nova itself a try because it's still as good as it was when it was first released, but after some googling I've found that there seems to be basically no way to buy it anywhere today. Does someone here know where you could still get it from? I've got a bit of a hankering to replay it from this whole conversation.

Unfortunately not - not only are the last vestiges of Ambrosia not selling keys, they're also not updating keys for previous buyers. That means that even folks who've purchased legitimate keys can't turn off the shareware features without shenanigans like setting the system clock back to the purchase date and turning off internet access (or just cracking it) :(

The shareware files and cracks are pretty easy to find - just make sure to give them money if that's ever an option again.

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Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
It's a real shame, Nova was a great game and I had a ton of fun playing through all the storylines that it had available. One can only hope that it returns at some point, it was absolutely worth the money. But hey, if King of Dragon Pass managed to spontaneously become an internet phenomenon years after its release, there is always hope.

Thank you for your help.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Volte posted:

Requiring all microtransactions to be refundable within 14 days or something would be a good step I think since I'm sure a lot of people buy compulsively and then later on have buyer's remorse or feel the anxiety of seeing that amount come out of their dwindling bank account. You'll never be able to prevent people who really really want to engage in self-destructive behaviour from doing so, but you can at least not give them a hair trigger to do so irreversibly on a whim. The only downside for the company, beside lost profits siphoned from compulsive customers, would be that some people would end up wearing a premium costume for a few days without paying for it in the end.

Reminds me of how League of Legends has a hard limit of 3 refunds, period. I think you can maybe beg support for more but you're told upfront that it's a hard limit.

If I'm being generous it might be more for preventing Riot from eating too many CC fees but I have absolutely been in a position where I was considering refunding something but then went "but then I'd only have 2 refunds left :ohdear:" and didn't.

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

Cardiovorax posted:

It's a real shame, Nova was a great game and I had a ton of fun playing through all the storylines that it had available. One can only hope that it returns at some point, it was absolutely worth the money. But hey, if King of Dragon Pass managed to spontaneously become an internet phenomenon years after its release, there is always hope.

Thank you for your help.

Yeah, I check every year or so to see if I can get my keys updated, but it's just been a slow descent into limbo. At least everything is mirrored, but it's definitely a game that could have a decent release on nostalgia alone and I'm sure the devs wouldn't mind compensation if there was an easy way to do it.

Speaking of... how does the Starpoint Gemini series compare? I've seen it mentioned in a couple of "games like EV" threads.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Stickman posted:

Speaking of... how does the Starpoint Gemini series compare? I've seen it mentioned in a couple of "games like EV" threads.
Not too well, in my personal experience, although I was comparing them less to EV:N specifically than to other space sim games on the market such as the X series. I've played mostly the later entries in the series, but they didn't quite have that same sense of player freedom to them. Among other reasons, they've got light RPG elements which mean that you need to buy and keep buying pilot upgrades just to fly better and/or larger classes of ships. They're not terrible, but they're not the most fun I've ever had with a game like that.

Starpoint Gemini Warlords goes on sale very regularly, so if you ever have had an interest in trying them, you might as well give than one a shot during the next sale. Two hours is plenty to find out if they click with you.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Endless Sky is free and from what I've played of it it's literally an EV Nova clone

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
It is and it is good.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
There's a Escape Velocity: Override remaster in the works by the original scenario writer and some other former EV people, though they had to change the name to Cosmic Frontier: Override. I backed the kickstarter and they're trucking along, currently working on updating art assets and converting everything over to a modern programming language, and developing new content to take advantage of whatever new features/QOL updates they're adding to the new engine.

I also ran across this top-down space game a while back but haven't had a chance to check it out yet:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/846030/V_Rings_of_Saturn/

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

Thanks, I had no idea there was a remake in the works and ΔV looks interesting! I guess I'll give the 2hr SG: Warlords "demo" a go next time a sale comes around too.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

In some alternate universe, Ambrosia Software suddenly dying and taking years of work down with them would've been bigger news. Like did they even tell anyone they were shutting down, or did they just vanish one day? Hell, their website was still up until fairly recently despite all the license key stuff going nowhere.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Delsaber posted:

In some alternate universe, Ambrosia Software suddenly dying and taking years of work down with them would've been bigger news. Like did they even tell anyone they were shutting down, or did they just vanish one day? Hell, their website was still up until fairly recently despite all the license key stuff going nowhere.

Back when the kickstarter was going I tried to trace what had happened, but apparently it sounds like the owner (Andrew Welch) just lost interest in the company combined with Apple moving to the Intel architecture, the last handful of employees were laid off in 2013 and basically the only people left until 2018 were the company accountant and Welch (a couple updates were apparently pushed to some of their productivity software in this period) and maybe a secretary. Final quarter that year they announced they were shuttering things entirely via a statement sent out to people who were still getting royalties. From what I can find Welch is apparently doing programming stuff for some advertising/SEO/database company in New York State now.

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usB0TZZX438

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=207ohkQMpWY

srulz
Jun 23, 2013

RIP Duelyst
Have anyone tried I, Dracula: Genesis? I've read it described as a "kitchen sink roguelite", which I would assume that it's something with lots of feature creep, but Steam reviews seem to be overall OK:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1175360/I_Dracula_Genesis/

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Ciaphas posted:

As far as "AI" goes, can I count on the basic ship designs if I really don't want to customize more than the ship I personally drive?

Bit late to this and apparently you already tapped out but yes, any of the stock variants for ships that come up in the autofit tab will do fine in AI hands, on account of they're what the AI has to fly in every fleet that isn't yours anyway.

If you're getting taken out by the pissed off miners at the gate with regularity it sounds like you skipped a step somewhere in the tutorial, like you either didn't go and salvage up a full fleet from the debris field or you didn't actually outfit said fleet back at Ancyra or whatever planet it is. If you come in loaded with everything you can actually get there (and what you can get is hard coded, no RNG) you can easily just leave the entire fight in AI hands and win with no losses. So that's an idea if you decide you want to give it another shot. Also playing the early missions in the missions tab is a reasonable way to get good at the combat side of Starsector, juggling flux, shields, weapon groups, all that, but it's more mount and blade sandbox training than it is an actual tutorial.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
I just booted up Book of Demons because I remembered goons having great things to say about it and holy poo poo it’s way more fun than I expected. It feels like Diablo I (which it’s obviously aping, structure wise) in a way I didn’t expect. The pace of the combat just matches my memories of how it felt to actually play that game perfectly. Made me kind of want to go back and play some D1 but I have no doubt that the 2 decades of UI improvements since release would have it drive me insane.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Man, I am still loving awful at Spelunky. I played 2 for about an hour and a half last night and never once got past 1-3. I appreciate the new quick restart option, makes it much easier to get back in there after getting killed by arrow traps as soon as I start a run.

Phoix
Jul 20, 2006




srulz posted:

Have anyone tried I, Dracula: Genesis? I've read it described as a "kitchen sink roguelite", which I would assume that it's something with lots of feature creep, but Steam reviews seem to be overall OK:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1175360/I_Dracula_Genesis/

I just bought this because it looked cool and while the aesthetic makes it kind of hard to tell what the gently caress is going on sometimes, it seems pretty fun so far.

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
People dying at spelunky : turn off auto run

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

Impermanent posted:

People dying at spelunky : turn off auto run

Never! *runs directly into an arrow trap*

Sway Grunt
May 15, 2004

Tenochtitlan, looking east.
Most of my Spelunky muscle memory seems to be intact, which is nice, except for whipping arrows.

It does seem to be weirdly taxing on my CPU/GPU for a 500mb game, even if they are very (very) old. There's been some rumblings about performance issues on the Steam forums so maybe that's it. Luckily no framedrops for me, just spinning the fans more than I would've thought.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I don't think I ever got past the Ice Caves in OG spelunky, let alone all the other ridiculous secrets I see discussed. Too drat difficult. The sequel will wreck me, huh? :arghfist::(

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Psycho Landlord posted:

Bit late to this and apparently you already tapped out but yes, any of the stock variants for ships that come up in the autofit tab will do fine in AI hands, on account of they're what the AI has to fly in every fleet that isn't yours anyway.

If you're getting taken out by the pissed off miners at the gate with regularity it sounds like you skipped a step somewhere in the tutorial, like you either didn't go and salvage up a full fleet from the debris field or you didn't actually outfit said fleet back at Ancyra or whatever planet it is. If you come in loaded with everything you can actually get there (and what you can get is hard coded, no RNG) you can easily just leave the entire fight in AI hands and win with no losses. So that's an idea if you decide you want to give it another shot. Also playing the early missions in the missions tab is a reasonable way to get good at the combat side of Starsector, juggling flux, shields, weapon groups, all that, but it's more mount and blade sandbox training than it is an actual tutorial.

I went back this morning with some more patience - and you were right, I was far too overzealous in salvaging ships instead of recovering them. Once I did that - stretching my supplies on hand to the limit, until I realized I could just get more and come back :doh: - the miner situation went much better.

So, uh, tapping back in I guess :shobon:

As far as refits go that's good to know, though. I really cannot be assed to do detailed refitting on more than my own personal chariot. Doing it for myself to improve at combat is interesting; doing it for my fleet is sheer drudgery. (And I do like the combat, though the ebb & flow of movement still frustrates me. Enemy AI surrounds and destroys me fast.)

Hopefully this ends up being the "X3:TC but 2D and with better combat (and probably without auto-trade freighters etc)" I'm looking for

Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Sep 30, 2020

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


MMF Freeway posted:

Never! *runs directly into an arrow trap*

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Games > Spelunky 2: Turn off autorun? Never! *runs directly into an arrow trap*

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."

Ciaphas posted:

so far Starsector is failing again to appeal to me - tried six times now to win the tutorial combat (rogue miners at the gate) and have gotten surrounded and smoked every single time

The game didn't bother to explain combat at all even though I asked for tutorial specifically, so, thanks I guess?

The campaign tutorial is specifically a tutorial for the campaign. For combat tutorial that's it's own option in the main menu.

And yeah as was said by others, you can just give the AI control of your ship and let the autopilot fight your battles - it is really good and will teach you a lot about how to fly.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I beat Olmec twice I think and got to Hell once. Spelunky's hard.

e: Well apparently not since I didn't get the cheevo. I was p sure I did though

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Ciaphas posted:

I went back this morning with some more patience - and you were right, I was far too overzealous in salvaging ships instead of recovering them. Once I did that - stretching my supplies on hand to the limit, until I realized I could just get more and come back :doh: - the miner situation went much better.

So, uh, tapping back in I guess :shobon:

As far as refits go that's good to know, though. I really cannot be assed to do detailed refitting on more than my own personal chariot. Doing it for myself to improve at combat is interesting; doing it for my fleet is sheer drudgery. (And I do like the combat, though the ebb & flow of movement still frustrates me. Enemy AI surrounds and destroys me fast.)

Hopefully this ends up being the "X3:TC but 2D and with better combat (and probably without auto-trade freighters etc)" I'm looking for

We have an actual starsector thread that is pretty hopping and I recommend you check out as you play so I won't go into too much detail here, but basic rules of being good at fleets are "Have carriers escort a combat ship" (this is just a right click with the carrier selected) and "Turn off the "upgrade guns with spare OP" thing in the autofit rules tab," because that breaks and makes bad fits that the AI *can't* use, thereby defeating the whole purpose of autofit. But yeah, just chroming out your own ship and letting the AI fly your standard pattern gruntboats is perfectly viable. Have fun, game owns!

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
Where are goons playing Left 4 Dead 2? Surely there's at least some of you out there

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

https://twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/1309861578561519619?s=19

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
:siren: silverelias :siren: if you're still reading this thread, im pretty sure your steam account got hijacked because im getting some messages from "you" about voting for a team and I hear that's becoming a common steam scam.

stay safe goon!

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo

Why do you think they call him Snake?

Mischievous Mink
May 29, 2012

buglord posted:

:siren: silverelias :siren: if you're still reading this thread, im pretty sure your steam account got hijacked because im getting some messages from "you" about voting for a team and I hear that's becoming a common steam scam.

stay safe goon!

Yeah, they messaged me yesterday too. Definitely fits the bill.

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009



I don't actually know which goon this is, but they're in the Steam Goons group so :shrug:

Morter
Jul 1, 2006

:ninja:
Gift for the grind, criminal mind shifty

Swift with the 9 through a 59FIFTY

Cross-Section posted:



I don't actually know which goon this is, but they're in the Steam Goons group so :shrug:

Go to their steam profile and link it here.

Back Alley Borks
Oct 22, 2017

Awoo.


This has to be one of the more successful scams with how much it seems to be popping up. What's so different about this one that it's getting people?

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

I'm guessing just a reused password + lack of 2FA

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

Morter posted:

Go to their steam profile and link it here.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/riddlemebris/

Codeacious posted:

This has to be one of the more successful scams with how much it seems to be popping up. What's so different about this one that it's getting people?

Apparently the scam link utilizes the Steam API which probably lulls people into a sense of false legitimacy

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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Sab669 posted:

I'm guessing just a reused password + lack of 2FA

The scam has people logging into it, including using their 2FA. Though the fact it has them going to the guardian part of the app specifically instead of spawning a push notification should be a red flag.

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