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Der Shovel posted:Who specifically are you thinking of? I suppose you could argue Di Maria was mismanaged but he very much mismanaged himself as well. Saha probably? Rafael and Evans should never have been sold. As far as the big money purchases, I think most of them were spectacularly bad investments where Woodward imagined himself building a team of galacticos rather than a team of players that would work together. Schweinsteiger is the prime example of "never ever ever buy a player from bayern if they're actively trying to sell him".
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Oct 1, 2020 10:37
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TheRat posted:I suppose you could argue Di Maria was mismanaged but he very much mismanaged himself as well. Saha probably? Rafael and Evans should never have been sold. As far as the big money purchases, I think most of them were spectacularly bad investments where Woodward imagined himself building a team of galacticos rather than a team of players that would work together. Schweinsteiger is the prime example of "never ever ever buy a player from bayern if they're actively trying to sell him". You'll never sell James milner with that attitude
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Oct 1, 2020 10:40
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TheRat posted:I suppose you could argue Di Maria was mismanaged but he very much mismanaged himself as well. Saha probably? Rafael and Evans should never have been sold. As far as the big money purchases, I think most of them were spectacularly bad investments where Woodward imagined himself building a team of galacticos rather than a team of players that would work together. Schweinsteiger is the prime example of "never ever ever buy a player from bayern if they're actively trying to sell him". Di Maria never wanted to go to Utd but was loving amazing up until some cunts robbed his house
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Oct 1, 2020 10:46
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TheRat posted:I suppose you could argue Di Maria was mismanaged but he very much mismanaged himself as well. Di Maria was fine until his house got robbed, and his family decided they wanted to get the gently caress out of Manchester ASAP after which his heart wasn't in it anymore. quote:Saha probably? Rafael and Evans should never have been sold. Saha played five seasons for United, and did fine IMO. He was never going to be the number one striker in a team full of Ronaldos, Rooneys and Tevezes. Saha also arrived at United in 2003, so if we're going that far back we're seriously grasping at straws. Rafael and Evans should never have been sold, agreed, but they don't fit the "players who were excellent before United ruined them" claim, at all. Rafael had 7 seasons at United, did well and was respected. He could have been used more and pushing him out of the door was one of van Gaal's biggest gently caress-ups, agreed, but he arrived as a kid with his brother. And Jonny Evans was a United academy graduate, so again...
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Oct 1, 2020 11:10
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Pau Pogbo
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Oct 1, 2020 11:12
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i wish my club was in a position where signing two players for £75m each was acceptable and affordable
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Oct 1, 2020 11:12
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Bape Culture posted:Pau Pogbo That is seriously one of the better shouts, IMO. He was excellent at Juve, arrived with fanfare at United, and then noted stable person and world's greatest man-manager Jose Mourinho decided to make him public enemy number 1 and his scapegoat for all of the world's ills. He's been played out of position, used in ways that don't take advantage of his skills at all, and expected to carry a team of poo poo cloggers for months and months. Realistically Pogba probably should have been sold after all that, because even though he's looked a lot better under Solskjaer (well, not right now, but hopefully soon) his relationship with the club was probably soiled permanently by the unpleasantness and the Mourinho-truther segment of the fanbase still keeping that banner flying high.
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Oct 1, 2020 11:16
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I assumed Rat meant Zaha
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Oct 1, 2020 11:16
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Bundy posted:I assumed Rat meant Zaha TBH he hosed himself almost literally by loving Moyes' daughter, after which he surprisingly didn't get many opportunities anymore. But yes, Zaha, properly coached and managed, should have been a useful player for many years. I would also count Memphis in that crowd, because while he probably was never going to be Ronaldo 2.0, he was also used extremely poorly, before getting shoved out the door.
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Oct 1, 2020 11:18
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Van Gaal letting Chicharito leave on loan and then permanently was a total farce.
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Oct 1, 2020 11:25
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Der Shovel posted:
Sorry, me dumb, I meant Zaha
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Oct 1, 2020 11:25
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Zaha has really vehemently denied that, he says he never even met her.kcer posted:i wish my club was in a position where signing two players for £75m each was acceptable and affordable Your club has 15 million more net spend over the last 5 years. The Saudi thing didn't work out, but you could try not being a club of idiots from top to bottom.
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Oct 1, 2020 11:27
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Der Shovel posted:. I would also count Memphis in that crowd, because while he probably was never going to be Ronaldo 2.0, he was also used extremely poorly, before getting shoved out the door. Rumour has it Memphis had the Adnan problems with massive attitude issues.
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Oct 1, 2020 11:29
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Zaha has really vehemently denied that, he says he never even met her. He has, but players who were around back then have pretty much outright said that's what happened. Ultimately we'll probably never know, but of course Zaha would vehemently deny it, it doesn't exactly paint him in a great picture. TheRat posted:Rumour has it Memphis had the Adnan problems with massive attitude issues. I could believe that. He also wouldn't have been helped by being managed by van Gaal (who criticised him as too aggressive and reckless. Remember, this is the manager who made players explain in front of the team why they took 'needless shots' or lost the ball) and then Mourinho, who is precisely the type of manager to decide he just doesn't like you and then not give you any opportunities to prove him wrong. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Oct 1, 2020 |
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Oct 1, 2020 11:34
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Players have confirmed it? That's news to me
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Oct 1, 2020 11:42
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I actually read a peer reviewed white paper aboit it written by non other than ryan giggs
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Oct 1, 2020 11:46
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Jose posted:Players have confirmed it? That's news to me I think Evra recently had to apologise live on Sky for saying Zaha slept with Moyes' daughter. Not that that actually confirms anything other than him having heard a rumour, though.
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Oct 1, 2020 11:47
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TBH I would have absolutely no problem believing the real explanation is "David Moyes is a useless poo poo of a manager".
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Oct 1, 2020 11:56
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You don't have to be a poo poo to be a poo poo manager but he is a poo poo manager
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Oct 1, 2020 12:32
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Zaha has really vehemently denied that, he says he never even met her. you ok mate?
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Oct 1, 2020 12:37
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kcer posted:i wish my club was in a position where signing two players for £75m each was acceptable and affordable Tbf if you are talking about Liverpool, that money came almost exclusively from selling Coutinho.
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Oct 1, 2020 13:00
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Der Shovel posted:TBH he hosed himself almost literally by loving Moyes' daughter, after which he surprisingly didn't get many opportunities anymore. before the thread moves on we would like to clarify about this comment made earlier by one of our posters, we understand that zaha has never met moyes' daughter and that the claim made by der shovel was false and we apologize for any offense caused
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Oct 1, 2020 13:10
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Jose posted:Players have confirmed it? That's news to me It’s a strange version of “cock or no cock” tbh
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Oct 1, 2020 13:27
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Der Shovel posted:Who specifically are you thinking of? Most of em, like Lukaku comes to mind - did an excellent job at his previous club, seems to be flourishing at Inter now. Good coaching can take players that aren't even world beaters and make them excellent parts of your team (thinking of for example wijnaldum at liverpool), look at the talent man united have splurged on over the years and compare it to Ferguson's last title winning team and tell me they weren't improvements on paper that were turned into dross by lovely coaching.
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Oct 1, 2020 17:13
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trem_two posted:I can't see much harm in signing Cavani on a free transfer, as long as it's not some 3+ year deal. On a scale of Falcao to Zlatan, I can see him being a solid Schweinsteiger
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Oct 1, 2020 18:32
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mila kunis posted:Most of em, like Lukaku comes to mind - did an excellent job at his previous club, seems to be flourishing at Inter now. 42 goals in 96 games for United, that's pretty much the same ratio he had at Everton and Anderlecht and certainly not "ruined" levels. And I'm not surprised he's flourishing in Serie A. Even Ashley Young is looking good in Italy, because the game isn't nearly as physically demanding as it is in the Premier League.
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Oct 1, 2020 19:16
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What happened with Depay? United seemed to give up on the guy really early even though he was young and was bought for the long term. I remember the howler of a match against Stoke, but every player has a bad match. I always liked Mkhitaryan, but United fans I see online seem to view him as a bust. Schneiderlin fizzled out after looking really good at Southampton, but from what I read on GOT, that’s more on his lack of work ethic than on anything at United. I don’t know the story there either.
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Oct 1, 2020 19:36
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Schneiderlin is the weirdest one for me. I was really really excited when he signed, but my god what a disaster he was.
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Oct 1, 2020 19:38
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Lukaku fell off at United when he got fat for Belgium and Jose thought he could use him as Drogba 2.0. So he'd be huffing and puffing about with long balls being fired at him with the usual Lukaku 1-in-3 first touch. I liked Mkhitaryan and wondered how much of his performances was Jose but he didn't work out at Arsenal either so  (not that that's any sort of indication of anything)
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Oct 1, 2020 19:45
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I liked Mkhitaryan as well. He seemed like a confidence player and something broke which made him extremely poo poo.
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Oct 1, 2020 19:54
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https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1311740835780874243
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Oct 1, 2020 19:54
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Paying £25m for a Norwich defender is certainly a decision
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Oct 1, 2020 20:02
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Everton spunked a combined total of £55m on Walcott and Iwobi lol they're poo poo at transfers
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Oct 1, 2020 20:20
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liverpool honestly haven't really gotten a ton of transfer funds under FSG, they just manage to keep getting teams to overpay for players for some baffling reason speaking of whats solanke up to these days
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Oct 1, 2020 20:39
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https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1311639933900206085 Barca supposedly beat out Bayern for him. Dunno if he'll pan out there, but it's kinda neat to see at least
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Oct 1, 2020 20:50
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bewbies posted:liverpool honestly haven't really gotten a ton of transfer funds under FSG, they just manage to keep getting teams to overpay for players for some baffling reason he tripled his lifetime Premier League goalscoring record in a single match and now he plays in the Championship
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Oct 1, 2020 21:09
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Real Name Grover posted:https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1311639933900206085 That’s one of the sadder looking locker rooms I’ve seen. Creepy even.
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Oct 1, 2020 21:44
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https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1311741698771427329
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This is a bizarrely good deal. Try before you buy. https://twitter.com/Dan_KP/status/1311928550677716994
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