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With GTA I feel like the main releases are 1-3, VC, SA, IV and V, and the stopgaps are the PSP games and the DLC for IV. Although in retrospect the latter was probably more like a test balloon for how a game with three protagonists and intertwined storylines would be received.Inspector Gesicht posted:Remasters that either vastly improve and polish the core game and meshes new content like an organ transplant, or haphazardly adds in new crap and unbalances the experience.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Special shoutout to games that make the experience worse by not changing anything, like Okami HD doing absolutely nothing to Issun, or preemptively the NieR remaster unless it does end up including DadNier. Yes this is the hill I've picked thank you. Bad news, I've set up my fortress on the other hill, and will genuinely be disappointed if they DO add Dadnier. Bronier is a far more interesting dynamic now since the interim ten years has beaten the Dad Game horse to death.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Remasters that either vastly improve and polish the core game and meshes new content like an organ transplant, or haphazardly adds in new crap and unbalances the experience. Shadow of the Colossus
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Wind Waker HD adding the speed sail was a loving lifesaver
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Oct 2, 2020 12:24
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Wind Waker HD adding the speed sail was a loving lifesaver Didn’t it saw down the Triforce hunt substantially, too?
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Oct 2, 2020 12:33
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My Lovely Horse posted:With GTA I feel like the main releases are 1-3, VC, SA, IV and V, and the stopgaps are the PSP games and the DLC for IV. Although in retrospect the latter was probably more like a test balloon for how a game with three protagonists and intertwined storylines would be received. I have it on good authority (a mod from the Gameshark forums) that Vice City is GTA 4. Thread locked
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Oct 2, 2020 12:51
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Vice city is the best GTA because it’s literally just “80’s nostalgia : the game” Which means R* couldn’t poo poo it up with their own gently caress-awful “story”.
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Oct 2, 2020 13:43
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Didn’t it saw down the Triforce hunt substantially, too? yeah i think it reduced tingle's ruinous mapmaking fees
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Oct 2, 2020 13:47
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My Lovely Horse posted:With GTA I feel like the main releases are 1-3, VC, SA, IV and V, and the stopgaps are the PSP games and the DLC for IV. Although in retrospect the latter was probably more like a test balloon for how a game with three protagonists and intertwined storylines would be received. Okami HD actually lets you skip almost all the dialogue!
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Oxxidation posted:yeah i think it reduced tingle's ruinous mapmaking fees And ditched like 3 of the maps altogether, putting triforce pieces in their place.
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Oct 2, 2020 13:54
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Final Fantasy X-2, this game has merit but it's incredibly embarrassing to be seen playing. ffx-2 is the best single-player final fantasy by a massive margin. lol if you're embarrassed to be seen playing a fantastic game
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Oct 2, 2020 13:59
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Plenty of fantastic games I'm embarrassed to be seen playing
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I've never played an FF game, what makes ffx-2 particularly embarrassing?
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jjack229 posted:I've never played an FF game, what makes ffx-2 particularly embarrassing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofWEWnWjOq0
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Oh, that makes sense then.
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jjack229 posted:Oh, that makes sense then. It's not the only scene like that, either. I've seen X-2 described as 'made to appeal to teenage girls, by middle-aged men who don't speak to teenage girls', and that's about right. It's by a LONG way the most distinctly 'feminine' game in the series. It's also an amazing job-focused Final Fantasy in terms of gameplay, and is seen as a solid spiritual successor to Final Fantasy V. It's a drat sight better than the most distinctly masculine game in the series, FFXV.
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Overwatch Porn posted:ffx-2 is the best single-player final fantasy by a massive margin. lol if you're embarrassed to be seen playing a fantastic game Weird way to spell tactics
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The worst part about FFX-2 is that it's one of the better FF games in terms of mechanics. It's just that all that other stuff, you know, characters, plot, writing, all the things that are central tenets to RPGs, suck poo poo.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Remasters that either vastly improve and polish the core game and meshes new content like an organ transplant, or haphazardly adds in new crap and unbalances the experience. Assassin's Creed III adds in the DLC and polishes the environment with new models and textures and whatnot, but it's still the same game (AKA, the worst one in the franchise).
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They should've kept the rope dart from it though. That was fun as hell to gently caress around with.
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I like Odyssey but randomly I'll have NPCs talking with their hands like they're on meth. The graphics are good enough not to need it but the movements look like they were programmed for an early 2000s nintendo game.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I like Odyssey but randomly I'll have NPCs talking with their hands like they're on meth. The graphics are good enough not to need it but the movements look like they were programmed for an early 2000s nintendo game. Look at this clown who's never met an Italian
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My Lovely Horse posted:With GTA I feel like the main releases are 1-3, VC, SA, IV and V, and the stopgaps are the PSP games and the DLC for IV. Although in retrospect the latter was probably more like a test balloon for how a game with three protagonists and intertwined storylines would be received. hatelull posted:Does DLC count? FO:NV had that grimdark Treasure of Sierra Madre thing with some supremely awful mechanics for a good chunk of it. Clouds of gas that would kill you making navigating the word even MORE annoying, obnoxious new enemy type, and more stuff I'm probably forgetting.
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GWBBQ posted:I gave up on IV after the first couple of hours of gameplay made it feel like the whole storyline was missions that might as well have been "heeeey cousin, go pick up my laundry and then get some groceries." New Vegas’s DLC is great in that each one has a bunch of people who love it and think it’s their favorite, and an equally large group of people who absolutely hate it.
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Sunless Sea seems like a really cool game and fun game for people who are not me.
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By the way, what the gently caress did I just watch?
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oldpainless posted:Sunless Sea seems like a really cool game and fun game for people who are not me. You may like Sunless Skies more. Same people and feeling but the flow of the game was much improved. I still burned out on it though, fair warning.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:New Vegas’s DLC is great in that each one has a bunch of people who love it and think it’s their favorite, and an equally large group of people who absolutely hate it. That may be true, but I'm struggling to figure out how Dead Money gets called out specifically as "grimdark" when the vanilla game features Caesar's Legion.
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Luigi's Mansion 3 has been generally doing well in keeping each area's gimmicks fun....but man, the sewer level. You spend the second half solving puzzles with Luigi in an inflatable raft controlled by sucking or blowing  with his vacuum. That gimmick is always gonna be a hard sell, but you're also avoiding sharp obstacles and helping solve puzzles with Gooigi, who melts when he gets wet....either of which can set you back more than a room or make you at least have to go back to the beginning of the current one.Then, once it's finally over, you breathe a sigh of relief...then have to do a raftbound boss fight in a small arena lined with sharp things 
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I maintain that Dead Money is outstanding DLC, second only to Old World Blues and a close second at that, but woo boy do I ever understand why it's divisive. There's no other part of the game that feels that oppressive. You're dropped in a maze-like city with next to no equipment and not much to scavenge, given strict mission objectives, and discouraged from exploring or loving around because of the ubiquitous flesh eating mist that ticks away at your health with very few pauses until the second half of the DLC. Oh, and it constantly throws consequential skill checks at you from the less popular skills like survival or explosives, and the mist zombies take a lot of very precious and rare ammunition to kill. It's loving stressful, and in ways that could be alienating to people who enjoy Fallout for the leisurely exploration or the safe, legal thrill of 'sploding legion heads from half a mile away. Edit: Super Mario Sunshine (or at least the recent rerelease) was made by people who hate you, the player. I'm playing this right after reaching 600 moons in Odyssey and it's astounding how much of my playing time is falling off of high platforms and having to climb all the way back up. 2002 Mario is a squirrely mother fucker. The hover nozzle makes some of this easier. Not fun, but easier. Most of the time though, it's just the camera swinging wildly while you're walking along a perfectly straight platform and throwing you 10 degrees off course - all the excuse Mario needs to slip and fall 300 feet to the water and begin his torturously slow swim back to the start. That's not to mention all the enemies that live in and around the endless suspended catwalks and exist solely to bump you off. And what's sad is it isn't like one or two levels like this, it's a good 1/4 of them. Riatsala has a new favorite as of 04:06 on Oct 3, 2020 |
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Just beat Dark Souls 1 for the first time, which is also my first foray into any of the Souls games or their direct inspirations. I totally "got it," liked it a lot and completed all the optional content. However, turns out that Dark Souls Remastered includes a DLC called Artorias of the Abyss that has a new area, enemies, and weapons, but the sequence of actions you need to take to access it is pretty abnormal and not really hinted at, and apparently you can also lock yourself out of it if you don't do the first couple esoteric steps before the late game area the Duke's Archives. Beating the game also forces you into New Game+, so I'm simply unable to play this DLC without replaying almost the entire game again. That's a hard sell since I could just play Dark Souls 2 and 3 or Bloodborne or Sekiro! Lame. Still a great game and everything but dang, that's about the most bizarrely obtuse way to bolt DLC onto a game as I've seen.
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Riatsala posted:the mist zombies take a lot of very precious and rare ammunition to kill. And they'll get back up if you don't cut/shoot off their head or limbs.
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The dlc was ridiculous in implementation, but if it makes you feel better your second time through the game is gonna be 1/3 of the time or less.
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Whatev posted:Just beat Dark Souls 1 for the first time, which is also my first foray into any of the Souls games or their direct inspirations. I totally "got it," liked it a lot and completed all the optional content. However, turns out that Dark Souls Remastered includes a DLC called Artorias of the Abyss that has a new area, enemies, and weapons, but the sequence of actions you need to take to access it is pretty abnormal and not really hinted at, and apparently you can also lock yourself out of it if you don't do the first couple esoteric steps before the late game area the Duke's Archives. Beating the game also forces you into New Game+, so I'm simply unable to play this DLC without replaying almost the entire game again. That's a hard sell since I could just play Dark Souls 2 and 3 or Bloodborne or Sekiro! Lame. I think that's why the access to the Dark Souls 3 DLCs are placed directly in the main path, even if that means you can get into the first one well before you're strong enough to tackle it.
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My first run of Dark Souls was something embarassing like 63 hours. My second was 8.
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Whatev posted:Just beat Dark Souls 1 for the first time, which is also my first foray into any of the Souls games or their direct inspirations. I totally "got it," liked it a lot and completed all the optional content. However, turns out that Dark Souls Remastered includes a DLC called Artorias of the Abyss that has a new area, enemies, and weapons, but the sequence of actions you need to take to access it is pretty abnormal and not really hinted at, and apparently you can also lock yourself out of it if you don't do the first couple esoteric steps before the late game area the Duke's Archives. Beating the game also forces you into New Game+, so I'm simply unable to play this DLC without replaying almost the entire game again. That's a hard sell since I could just play Dark Souls 2 and 3 or Bloodborne or Sekiro! Lame. You should have been there when the DLC originally launched and it took people a couple days to figure out how to access it. That was a fun time. 
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I hadn't playing Mario 64 until after I had played Banjo-Kazooie and I never could get into it. I couldn't put my finger on it until now, which is that Mario 64's controls and camera are so terrible together and it has so much bullshit design that it just isn't fun half the time. It wasn't until Mario Galaxy that they finally got everything working and the series got to be really good.
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Riatsala posted:I maintain that Dead Money is outstanding DLC, second only to Old World Blues and a close second at that, but woo boy do I ever understand why it's divisive. There's no other part of the game that feels that oppressive. You're dropped in a maze-like city with next to no equipment and not much to scavenge, given strict mission objectives, and discouraged from exploring or loving around because of the ubiquitous flesh eating mist that ticks away at your health with very few pauses until the second half of the DLC. Oh, and it constantly throws consequential skill checks at you from the less popular skills like survival or explosives, and the mist zombies take a lot of very precious and rare ammunition to kill. It's loving stressful, and in ways that could be alienating to people who enjoy Fallout for the leisurely exploration or the safe, legal thrill of 'sploding legion heads from half a mile away. The bonus stages that were just obstacle courses floating in a void were the best part of Sunshine and I think they basically made Galaxy just those levels for that reason.
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Shiroc posted:I hadn't playing Mario 64 until after I had played Banjo-Kazooie and I never could get into it. I couldn't put my finger on it until now, which is that Mario 64's controls and camera are so terrible together and it has so much bullshit design that it just isn't fun half the time. It wasn't until Mario Galaxy that they finally got everything working and the series got to be really good. Careful, talking bad about M64 is going to make people angry around these parts But yeah, it's not a great game if you don't have nostalgia for it
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