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Wish I had a friend to give me a free Zune. I bought one when they were first released (black 30gb) and loved it. Software could be a pain but it was no worse than iTunes. I used it daily for almost 5 years until it fell out of my hoodie pouch and cracked the screen real bad which was a bummer but at that point I was already using smart phones and shortly after getting Spotify I didn't have use for a standalone MP3 player anyway. I would use one now, however, since I'm really tired of dropping my phone while running.
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Bloopsy posted:Wish I had a friend to give me a free Zune. I bought one when they were first released (black 30gb) and loved it. Software could be a pain but it was no worse than iTunes. I used it daily for almost 5 years until it fell out of my hoodie pouch and cracked the screen real bad which was a bummer but at that point I was already using smart phones and shortly after getting Spotify I didn't have use for a standalone MP3 player anyway. I would use one now, however, since I'm really tired of dropping my phone while running. Inshallah this doesn't start Yet Another MP3 Player Discussion, but https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-8GB-Clip-Player-Black/dp/B00VXMY262?th=1 is real good for running because it's cheap, looks like a regular USB drive if you plug it into your computer, and weighs less than an ounce. You can put a microSD card in it if you need more than 8GB. I bring it up every time mp3 players come up because imo it still fills a valuable niche: a cheap-enough-to-abuse music player that's not too heavy to take running.
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Pham Nuwen posted:Inshallah this doesn't start Yet Another MP3 Player Discussion, but https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-8GB-Clip-Player-Black/dp/B00VXMY262?th=1 is real good for running because it's cheap, looks like a regular USB drive if you plug it into your computer, and weighs less than an ounce. You can put a microSD card in it if you need more than 8GB. had a few of these and the clip tends to break. they make bluetooth ones now, and was considering getting one but I'm broke.
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Should’ve used one of Apple’s AUX servers, they were code named Shiner after Shiner Bock.
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Got a pile of Amiga manuals, a game and music making software in the mail today: 
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This is pretty incredible, records that can have different outcomes when played again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5l75romOXY
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LifeSunDeath posted:This is pretty incredible, records that can have different outcomes when played again: The Marillion album Brave is a concept album with the last side containing parallel grooves like this. They are mostly the same, but one has a good ending and the other has a bad one. Also the album came out in 1994 so most people probably didn't even get to experience it. Later CD and digital releases included the bad ending as a bonus track, but the effect is lost there.
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Oct 4, 2020 08:49
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Tech Relic: the time when the computer case was wider than the screen.
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I'm loving that video because he put in all this lovely hardware and the computer is super slow.
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LifeSunDeath posted:I'm loving that video because he put in all this lovely hardware and the computer is super slow. For real. Just buy an old PCI express card or something. Why did he expect that PCI graphics card to do anything at all? I was also thinking "Wow, that RAM is really tall, I don't think it's going to fit. Nah, he kept it in the video, he would have reshot that part if the RAM didn't fit." And then lol.
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Oct 4, 2020 15:51
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I mean, more than the first half of the video was attempting to install an old-rear end OS where that card would have been appropriate.
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TotalLossBrain posted:I spent so many hours on GS2000
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He spent the first half of the video trying to install an old-rear end OS and the entire point of using that specific motherboard was 'it has PCI slots' as he explained in detail 
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Dr. Quarex posted:O.K. I am starting to think 8-Bit Guy is leaning into his status as the retro tech heel, this thread was really onto something Warbird posted:I don’t really care (nor am I particularly electrically inclined), but I’m not sure I can think of any good reason to put a paper clip in a power supply. wa27 posted:Jamming a paper clip in the power supply to kill it was hilarious. I finally watched this after reading the above, and I was surprised when he didn't just jam a paperclip into the output of the power supply to see what happens, but instead jammed a paperclip into it to try to turn it on after thinking he'd figured out what those particular pins did. What's the correct way to deal with these sorts of things, do people tend to disassemble the power supply (and/or monitor in this case) to reverse engineer the circuits to figure out how they work rather than risk breaking them?
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Oct 5, 2020 01:09
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 Ah yes really mysterious whatever these cables be
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SCheeseman posted:
I really dont believe for one second he didn't know what that is. But, he isn't really one to be punny like This Old Tony.
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LifeSunDeath posted:This is pretty incredible, records that can have different outcomes when played again: It must have been an incredible feeling to encounter something like that for the first time, especially when you only had word of mouth to spread the info.
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Iron Crowned posted:It must have been an incredible feeling to encounter something like that for the first time, especially when you only had word of mouth to spread the info. having a bunch of rowdy mates over for a gambling session, put this on, play it once, and make the bet of the century that it's not going to be the same result when played again. It would be like magic (unless you accidentally ended up on the same track, but that's like 1 in 8).
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LifeSunDeath posted:having a bunch of rowdy mates over for a gambling session, put this on, play it once, and make the bet of the century that it's not going to be the same result when played again. It would be like magic (unless you accidentally ended up on the same track, but that's like 1 in 8). "Hey guys, I bet this record, which I brought over, will play different music the next time we start it. I make this wager despite being an adult who has played records in the past and understands how they work, surely I have no additional information in this case." Yeah mate I'll take that bet.
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Pham Nuwen posted:"Hey guys, I bet this record, which I brought over, will play different music the next time we start it. I make this wager despite being an adult who has played records in the past and understands how they work, surely I have no additional information in this case." You ever heard of barroom bets? They're all unwinnable bullshit, but people will engage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB-GMXrq2Lw
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LifeSunDeath posted:You ever heard of barroom bets? They're all unwinnable bullshit, but people will engage. well yeah, they're buying entertainment
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A good bar bet: Take a wine glass and bet that the circumference of the base is longer than the height of the glass. Intuitively the glass looks way taller than the circumference, but it's almost never the case.
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Buttcoin purse posted:I finally watched this after reading the above, and I was surprised when he didn't just jam a paperclip into the output of the power supply to see what happens, but instead jammed a paperclip into it to try to turn it on after thinking he'd figured out what those particular pins did. I've not watched the video in question, but it was standard operating procedure to short a PC power supply with a paperclip if you needed to power it up outside of a case. GIS "paperclip psu" and you'll see tons of them.
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Gromit posted:I've not watched the video in question, but it was standard operating procedure to short a PC power supply with a paperclip if you needed to power it up outside of a case. GIS "paperclip psu" and you'll see tons of them. This is a different situation, the machine is from the era where the switch was normally on the PS or the PS ran mains power to a DPST switch, but he's dealing with a special PS where the switch is on the monitor somehow without enough wires going to it for a DPST switch. So I don't get it, can the power supply in the computer detect that the monitor has started to draw power and turn itself on based on that, or can you just have a SPST switch on the hot/active and not switch the neutral? Don't worry, I never touch the wiring in my house
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He tested how the power switch works with a multimeter, and I would have come to the same conclusion about what the pins do as he did. The only really boneheaded poo poo is how bad he is at dealing with pretty common screws.
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It's fairly obviously AC power. The colour coding is EU but the green+yellow ground lead should have made it obvious.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_8CXyF5M1Q
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Watching vids on these old professional processors and I'm just totally in awe that they could even make them. There's even fine wires to splice connections that are like a strand of hair thick. Like how hand built were these, so much of it seems beyond automated manufacturing at the time, but I have no clue really. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ3oJlt4GrI shot of the tiny wires 
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Gunship 2000, I haven't thought about that in years. Had a retired and likely aspergers inlaw that lived and breathed that game.
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For some reason I love videos that delve into how old coding works. This was a fun one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSSUrnIpcds
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LifeSunDeath posted:Watching vids on these old professional processors and I'm just totally in awe that they could even make them. There's even fine wires to splice connections that are like a strand of hair thick. Like how hand built were these, so much of it seems beyond automated manufacturing at the time, but I have no clue really. That was really weird seeing that cap pushed off. Dave showed it as a tease and I thought he had some circuit in an oil heated contraption to help spread heat evenly, but didn't ever think it was ambient.
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This is maybe a bit off topic, but do any of you know where I could get hold of an example of the audio files Apple sold you shortly after they stopped putting DRM in them?
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barbecue at the folks posted:For some reason I love videos that delve into how old coding works. This was a fun one: This guy and Retro Game Mechanics Explained are good. I don't really know anything about assembly (or any programming language) but these dudes still explain it in a way I can understand. My partner is an electrical engineer who is pretty intimate with assembly code so she finds them pretty cool. https://www.youtube.com/c/RetroGameMechanicsExplained There's also Coding Secrets, a guy formerly of Traveller's Tales during their Sega days (before they became a LEGO game factory). His videos are less about programming intricacies and instead more about graphics rendering, but still pretty cool. https://www.youtube.com/c/CodingSecrets
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Coding Secrets is like hearing a foreign language that has lots of English loan words in it, being spoken by a professor: I have only the most basic idea of what is being said, but i know it is something very clever.
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That Behind the Code Zelda 2 youtube is extremely boring to anyone who has even the slightest grasp of computre. If you change number the thing on the screen changes? No loving poo poo we learned that when we were six. People my age are tech relics.
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LifeSunDeath posted:Watching vids on these old professional processors and I'm just totally in awe that they could even make them. There's even fine wires to splice connections that are like a strand of hair thick. Like how hand built were these, so much of it seems beyond automated manufacturing at the time, but I have no clue really. Ooh I happen to have a ram stick from one of those big mainframes, Behold 256Mb of ram in all its glory https://i.imgur.com/BWN8Qc4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KyIaDYx.jpg it's a monster 16 layer PCB the size of a pizza box with no less than 576 ram chips, I found it laying in a ditch on the side of the road about 2 years ago.
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