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Yeah and what I'm saying is you don't need a concentrator, just the bottle, a valve to dispense it and hosing. I mean, these exist. 
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Fame Douglas posted:It only needed to provide enough oxygen for like two minutes, though. Yeah but no one stocks medical devices that are “it’s good for like two minutes, three tops if you need to fool reporters on the way to a helicopter”.
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Fame Douglas posted:It only needed to provide enough oxygen for like two minutes, though. He's unlikely to have been likely to just drop dead in two minutes without supplemental oxygen if he was healthy enough to walk unassisted. Seems super unlikely to me, could be any amount of poo poo in his pockets. loving tube of pringles, perhaps.
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They literally sell lovely "easy scuba" minitanks that's just a mouthpiece and a canister not much bigger than a deodorant can. Said tanks are useless and lovely because when diving the air gets compressed and you end up getting much less dive time than advertised if you pass your average snorkeling depths. But they work. It is a tiny canister which delivers a regulated supply of gas, and weight wise you're supposed to just hold the thing with your mouth. Sure that's easier underwater, but strapping one underarm and walking around with it would be trivial. You'd be only looking at maybe 10-15 minutes worth of gas, but if it's just so you can walk from a house to a vehicle without any visible medical apparatus it's plenty. Mind you I think it's pretty drat tinfoily to think Trump was actually doing this, but calling it unfeasible is like 80s thinking.
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Jeza posted:loving tube of pringles, perhaps. Honestly, this seems pretty likely too.
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Fame Douglas posted:It only needed to provide enough oxygen for like two minutes, though. That's not how it works. Because oxygen liquifies at pressure, there's a very hard limit caused by the diminishing returns of how much of the tank has to be thermal insulation and safety factor for the cylinder walls. Like think how quickly a can of air duster gets too cold to touch despite flowing at a much lower rate. I mean theoretically it's not *impossible* to make a cylinder that only holds 10 or 12 litres of oxygen but nobody's ever bothered before because literally the only use for it would be this, and I bet it'd still be the size of a drinks can and weigh at least a kilo, so again, even if the special CIA psyops labs whipped something up so he could walk across the lawn (as opposed to, say, just getting in the limo) it'd *still* be noticeable under his clothes.
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Jeza posted:loving tube of pringles, perhaps. Trump has a homemade Fleshlight, confirmed.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:That's not how it works. Because oxygen liquifies at pressure, there's a very hard limit caused by the diminishing returns of how much of the tank has to be thermal insulation and safety factor for the cylinder walls. Like think how quickly a can of air duster gets too cold to touch despite flowing at a much lower rate. He could use a chemical oxygen generator and set his pants on fire.
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It's obviously a DARPA exoskeleton duh
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BREAKING NEWS: Trump’s suits fit poorly LOL
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Kerning Chameleon posted:All these articles about how loss of sense of smell is an important diganostic symptom, and here I am sitting over here like "boy, being in the .01% kind of sucks for once." Huh, me too! I texted my family that I'm in the top .01 percent of all people due to this  so thanks for the link!
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That is absolutely an oxygen tank and nasal cannula. That's a pretty standard size for a portable modern one when you need less than 3L. We use the same ones when walking ortho patients post surgery and they weigh like 2 pounds tops with a shoulder strap which we usually have on as the therapist or we sling it on the walker. They need to be refilled several times a day though. Edit: its like this https://www.healthproductsforyou.com/p-inogen-one-g3-portable-oxygen-concentrator-system.html but ours are smaller since they only accommodate .25 to 3.0 liters at a time. Fenarisk fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Oct 3, 2020 |
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Fenarisk posted:That is absolutely an oxygen tank and nasal cannula. That's a pretty standard size for a portable modern one when you need less than 3L. We use the same ones when walking ortho patients post surgery and they weigh like 2 pounds tops with a shoulder strap which we usually have on as the therapist or we sling it on the walker. https://twitter.com/ImplausibleGrrl/status/1312318326807367681 That's not a very well-fitted cannula mate. e: Also you were talking about oxygen cylinders then posted a concentrator. And the concentrator you posted is *huge* - well okay not huge but considerably bigger than the one already discussed. Like considerably larger than the outside pocket even on Trump's clownsuits. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Oct 3, 2020 |
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its like these motherfuckers just completely slept through March and April https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1312495930310971392
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i get why everyone wants him to be on oxygen so soon after the positive test, but i really doubt his condition is that bad so soon. this next week will be interesting to see how it progresses and if that changes his narrative on the virus (hint: it wont or he'll just double down on the CHINA FLU thing)
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OMFG FURRY posted:i get why everyone wants him to be on oxygen so soon after the positive test, but i really doubt his condition is that bad so soon. this next week will be interesting to see how it progresses and if that changes his narrative on the virus (hint: it wont or he'll just double down on the CHINA FLU thing) We only heard about it quite a bit later when he had his stroke last year.
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Fame Douglas posted:We only heard about it quite a bit later when he had his stroke last year. Wait, what?
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I imagine if he survives it it's just going to add fuel to his stupid narrative about how it's not a big deal. 200k dead people? Well clearly they were just losers who deserved to die.
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Gologle posted:I imagine if he survives it it's just going to add fuel to his stupid narrative about how it's not a big deal. 200k dead people? Well clearly they were just losers who deserved to die. It's 2020, my assumption from the beginning is he gave it to Biden who will have a terrible time, but Trump will have a mild course and completely recover.
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Seriously if he is well enough to walk completely normally then there is no way he is in such a bad state he can't be off the oxygen for 30seconds. This is just pure conspiracy thinking. No different from qanon claiming Tom Hanks is wearing an ankle monitor.
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Illuminti posted:Seriously if he is well enough to walk completely normally then there is no way he is in such a bad state he can't be off the oxygen for 30seconds. This is just pure conspiracy thinking. No different from qanon claiming Tom Hanks is wearing an ankle monitor. Yeah thats why they parked the helicopter right next to the white house instead of across the lawn like normal
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Another Bill posted:Yeah thats why they parked the helicopter right next to the white house instead of across the lawn like normal I mean they're probably doing poo poo like that because "POTUS has COVID" is a major loving oh-poo poo situation even if he's feeling OK
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I realize the CDC isn't the greatest source these days, so make of this what you will (see "Clinical Progression"): https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-guidance-management-patients.html It says that in patients with severe cases, the median time to dyspnea (difficulty breathing) is 5-8 days after onset of symptoms. If it gets real bad, median time from symptoms to ICU admission is 10-12 days. So even if his case is severe, it will still probably take some time for things to progress to that point. And as always, we have no loving clue what's going to happen because it's 2020.
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He seems more lucid and focused than I have ever seen him.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:He seems more lucid and focused than I have ever seen him. Maybe he's been forced off his European uppers for once.
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Gologle posted:I imagine if he survives it it's just going to add fuel to his stupid narrative about how it's not a big deal. 200k dead people? Well clearly they were just losers who deserved to die. this is 100% what is going to happen, remember this is 2020 after all
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's been theorized that Trump's very abrupt trip to Walter Reed last year was either a cardiac or stroke type event. The WH has never really said much about why they had to rush over there but the prevailing theory is that it was heart-related I can’t believe we are still passing around this rumor. Allow me to lay this to rest: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...2F5694399002%2F He definitely did not have a series of mini-strokes. I doubt anyone here would dare to impugn the honesty of our “favorite president, me” I love how he has to specify “me” just in case someone thought he was talking about their other favorite president Warren G. Harding.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:He seems more lucid and focused than I have ever seen him. He always seems more focused when he has a teleprompter and there are no hard to pronounce words in the statement.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's been theorized that Trump's very abrupt trip to Walter Reed last year was either a cardiac or stroke type event. The WH has never really said much about why they had to rush over there but the prevailing theory is that it was heart-related I strongly doubt that he would be walking onto AF1 if that was the case.
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Another Bill posted:Yeah thats why they parked the helicopter right next to the white house instead of across the lawn like normal He literally just released a 4 minute video where he spoke continuously in a lucid manner. They sent him to the hospital because they're being cautious with an elderly obese moron, but his breathing currently appears to be normal and unassisted.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:He seems more lucid and focused than I have ever seen him. It’s heavily edited, so they probably cut out all of the rambling in addition to the coughing and wheezing
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teardrop posted:It’s heavily edited, so they probably cut out all of the rambling in addition to the coughing and wheezing Yeah there’s some pretty clear edit points where it looks like he’s about to go into a coughing fit and then cuts to the rest of the sentence
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Zugzwang posted:I realize the CDC isn't the greatest source these days, so make of this what you will (see "Clinical Progression"): https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-guidance-management-patients.html yea, but usually they say "stay home until you're almost dead". With trump he's getting treatment from the start so that's gotta change things...
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based on my own covid experience, what would really haunt him the most professionally are the lingering thyroid problems after covid recovery he's gonna have sore throats for weeks/months
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He'll probably be fine, but it will really mean nothing. He is one of the few people in the world that have access to whatever treatments he is getting. So if he tries any poo poo talking afterword, you just call him out, "Mr. President, how do you feel about the 200k plus Americans who didn't have access to world class treatment and died?".
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Michael Corleone posted:He'll probably be fine, but it will really mean nothing. He is one of the few people in the world that have access to whatever treatments he is getting. So if he tries any poo poo talking afterword, you just call him out, "Mr. President, how do you feel about the 200k plus Americans who didn't have access to world class treatment and died?". "gently caress 'em" - El Presidente for Life Donald Trump
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