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Is there an actual good reason why they haven't 25thed this guy and are actively lying through their teeth? Like Rudy claiming a phone call with him? Is it literally just "Trump's family refuses to give up the throne under any circumstances" and they have cowed everyone else into going along with it? Like honestly, what's career guys like Meadows, Mnuchin, and Pence getting from carrying water for his bloated living corpse?
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TulliusCicero posted:Is there an actual good reason why they haven't 25thed this guy and are actively lying through their teeth? Like Rudy claiming a phone call with him? None of them will have careers without trump. Without trump in power, even.
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TulliusCicero posted:Is there an actual good reason why they haven't 25thed this guy and are actively lying through their teeth? Like Rudy claiming a phone call with him? Getting 25th’d on the eve of the election will probably kill any chance he has left of winning. At least I’m sure that is what they believe.
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EDIT: Of course this was complete bullshit and I'm stupid for believing it for a second.
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TulliusCicero posted:Is there an actual good reason why they haven't 25thed this guy and are actively lying through their teeth? Like Rudy claiming a phone call with him?
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cant cook creole bream posted:Recovered as in not having corona anymore even if it was asymptomatic, or as in was seriously ill before it turned around. It's hard to say. But even atheletes are having heart inflammation issues. But yeah if you go to the hospital with covid it seems like it's going to take a year or two off your life even if you're healthy. I think I had it in early march, but it was only bad for a couple days. Who knows if it caused any damage? quote:Is it literally just "Trump's family refuses to give up the throne under any circumstances" and they have cowed everyone else into going along with it? Because Trump is a big strong daddy who will protect you with his tremendously good genes and blood. Also, Pence getting activated as acting president might not be able to break a tie in the senate.
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it's a competition between 'explicit self interest in trying to maintain at least a ghost of a chance of trump winning re-election' and 'need to have a functioning chief executive'. we'll see which way the see saw tilts over the next few days!
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Oct 3, 2020 22:51
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Does news about people who probably caught covid from Trump go here? Because... https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1312511364582182913?s=19
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Oct 3, 2020 22:58
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Rea posted:Does news about people who probably caught covid from Trump go here? Because... 
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Oct 3, 2020 23:03
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I think we learned about Christie this morning.
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Grouchio posted:I think we learned about Christie this morning. We learned he got infected, but he was only hospitalized just now.
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Why would they give Christie Remdesivir right away, but enroll Trump in an experimental drug trial before starting Remdesivir?
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Oct 3, 2020 23:06
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Rea posted:Does news about people who probably caught covid from Trump go here? Because... https://twitter.com/Chinchillazllla/status/1312513979005067265
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Oct 3, 2020 23:07
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There are persistent rumours in the UK that BoJo is still not in great shape and will probably be forced to retire soon.
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Oct 3, 2020 23:09
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Simplex posted:Why would they give Christie Remdesivir right away, but enroll Trump in an experimental drug trial before starting Remdesivir? Because Trump's new "personal physician" was the understudy of his former "personal physician" and unwilling to tell him, or possibly unaware, that it was a stupid loving idea
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Oct 3, 2020 23:09
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BoJo was also on a ventilator/intubated for like 3 days (if not in an outright coma) so he got it pretty rough.
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TulliusCicero posted:Is there an actual good reason why they haven't 25thed this guy and are actively lying through their teeth? Like Rudy claiming a phone call with him? In a very real sense, this isn't an administration. There isn't a structure or organization. This is a despotic court around Trump: all other viewpoints have been squashed and everyone's power flows from him. If his inner circle allows him to be 25th, their power evaporates because Pence doesn't listen to them. He has his own team that would be running the show.
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Feeling very alive, definitely not dead in my alive room, which is where they keep alive presidents.
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Simplex posted:Why would they give Christie Remdesivir right away, but enroll Trump in an experimental drug trial before starting Remdesivir? In Haberman's report, there's some weird language where she describes Trump as experiencing anxiety. She doesn't say it directly, but that people were "dealing with him [on Friday]" in response to that state of mind. Perhaps, in a state of anxiety Trump fixated on some experimental option unavailable to the public.
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Rea posted:Does news about people who probably caught covid from Trump go here? Because... Gosh I hope there’s no traffic on any bridges.
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Oct 3, 2020 23:13
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This year has been terrible, but the October surprise of a bunch of delusional assholes infecting themselves with the same disease they were fine with letting kill off the "common folk" is a true delight.
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Deptfordx posted:There are persistent rumours in the UK that BoJo is still not in great shape and will probably be forced to retire soon. To be honest and a bit off topic, this might have happened regardless of corona and is a good excuse. January first is going to be hard Brexit day and the previous two prime ministers both caused a huge mess in that regard before retiring and handing power over to someone even more deranged, so they wouldn't have to deal with the consequences. By this point it's a tradition.
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jetsetter posted:In Haberman's report, there's some weird language where she describes Trump as experiencing anxiety. She doesn't say it directly, but that people were "dealing with him [on Friday]" in response to that state of mind. Isn't the experimental treatment owned by a buddy of his?
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Oct 3, 2020 23:18
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Eh, Hospital Induced Delirium is a thing, especially for people in his age group. Could be he was just belligerent and they had no idea how to say no without declaring him formally unfit
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https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/1312443979321896960 They were like "better go now while you can still walk because you'll be going one way or another"
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Isn't the experimental treatment owned by a buddy of his? https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1312130162595512320
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:that wasn't really why he opted for the experimental treatment though: He really does pay attention only to the last thing that was said to him.
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:that wasn't really why he opted for the experimental treatment though: There have been a bunch of times in American history when the president was sick or injured, and the conventional medical treatment at the time would have probably done an OK job, but some quack came in and hosed everything up. I've never really understood how that could happen until now.
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https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1312516107547209733?s=19 Christ, Christie is already symptomatic.
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didn't they give Teddy beef and booze enemas when he got shot? Trump's not quite hitting the dumbest treatments for a sitting president yet, but give him time.
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We’re putting President Garfield on an experimental treatment where we poke around in his open wound with our unwashed hands to try and fish out the bullet. Also we’re gonna pour soup up his rear end.
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Instant Sunrise posted:We’re putting President Garfield on an experimental treatment where we poke around in his open wound with our unwashed hands to try and fish out the bullet. Garfield that's who it was
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Instant Sunrise posted:We’re putting President Garfield on an experimental treatment where we poke around in his open wound with our unwashed hands to try and fish out the bullet.
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Instant Sunrise posted:We’re putting President Garfield on an experimental treatment where we poke around in his open wound with our unwashed hands to try and fish out the bullet. The funny pages are sure different from when I was younger
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vyelkin posted:https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/1312443979321896960 presumably the helicopter sitting on the tarmac was part juicing him up for the walk and partly him throwing a very presidential toddler temper tantrum him holding his breath turned out to be awkward for everyone
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Grouchio posted:This thread needs to know that whole story. to be fair, its not entirely clear what ended up killing garfield, but medical care in the late 1800s was not great. his wikipedia page has quite a bit of detail on how he was treated, but understanding of things like infection were very primitive back then, particularly amongst the older generation of doctors - especially the doctor overseeing garfields care. fun facts: they invented an early version of air conditioning as a way to keep him more comfortable as he was dying. quote:One means of keeping the president comfortable in Washington's summer heat was one of the first successful air conditioning units: air propelled by fans over ice and then dried had reduced the temperature in the sickroom by 20 degrees Fahrenheit (11 degrees Celsius).[192] Engineers from the navy, along with some scientists, worked together to develop this version of air conditioning in an attempt to help the president recover. There were some issues, such as it made excessive noise and immensely increased the humidity in Garfield's room, but the engineers worked hard to find solutions for these problems in their efforts to ease Garfield's suffering.[194]
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