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Unmature posted:I’m watching the one with the temporal loop where the Enterprise keeps exploding. Does this count as a Crusher episode? The enterprise is exploded, not crushed 
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Shinjobi posted:I am watching another season 7 episode Hahaha yeah, this one really goes places. Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Been watching through TNG S1, once you get past the first 4-6 episodes it hasn't been half bad. It's been a few years and I don't remember everything, always a good way to rewatch. The one with Damon Bok and the Stargazer is the first legit good episode, and there've been a few others, with the rest being usually decent. The cast have got a handle on their characters. It's not a standout show yet, but I think S1 gets a mostly-undeserved bad rap because of those first few episodes. Totally agreed. It's those first few episodes that really tank it. After that it's actually pretty watchable. It doesn't rise to the level of "Darmok" or anything, but they're really just average TNG episodes where the uniforms are too tight and the music is weirder.
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Oct 3, 2020 11:38
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As dumb as the episode is, I kind of wish "The Paradise Syndrome" had been a two-parter, so we could see what the Hell the crew of the Enterprise was doing for 2 months while the ship was driving backwards to get back to Kirk.
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Unmature posted:Do we know how flammable grapes are. Could be Very If you bombard them with a microwave beam, the answer is "very."
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I've been watching DS9 lately and recently got into early sixth season, and something about a scene on the starbase with Captain Sisko and Admiral Ross just struck me as how drab those First Contact uniforms are and how that tied in with where DS9 and the TNG movies went. Dreary, mostly colorless uniforms for war stories. I'm really glad Lower Decks ditched the gray-black scheme, and also didn't do the lazy all-blue direction.
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Oct 3, 2020 21:49
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Those are still my favorite uniforms
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The purple uniforms are a bit dreary but they look really good on the DS9 cast, so I’ll forgive them the monotone
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Oct 4, 2020 00:19
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I like the late-DS9 uniforms because having a uniform made of two pieces makes it actually look like a uniform, and not a gymnastics unitard.
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skasion posted:The purple uniforms are a bit dreary but they look really good on the DS9 cast, so I’ll forgive them the monotone Yeah, the uniform really fits late-DS9 well both literally and tonally. They just suck rear end on the TNG cast because they’re so boring in comparison to their tv uniforms.
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Watching Insurrection. So Generations was all about Data getting the emotions chip, then in First Contact they’re like he can turn it off now whenever I guess, and in this Geordi’s like “uh he left it in his room.” And I guess every movie after Generations has to be like “oh good, Worf was in the neighborhood.” So does every Starfleet shuttle have a karaoke machine built in? Hm at least this one remembers Troi and Riker are characters Unmature fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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Unmature posted:Watching Insurrection. So Generations was all about Data getting the emotions chip, then in First Contact they’re like he can turn it off now whenever I guess, and in this Geordi’s like “uh he left it in his room.”
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Oct 4, 2020 03:08
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Cat Hatter posted:To be fair, not being able to turn off or remove the emotion chip without Geordie was kind of a big deal in Generations. I know if I was Geordie and I'd just got back from being tortured aboard a Klingon ship because my android supersoldier best friend was too afraid to help, first thing I'd do is probably recommend we install a relay or a socketed connection or both for his flakey emotion chip he pried out of his emotionally unstable brother. Yeah it makes sense it’s just funny how the writers will just do whatever they want for convenience after introducing such a huge thing. It should’ve just shorted out or been removed at the end of Generations. EDIT: Jesus Christ this movie is boring as poo poo
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Unmature posted:Yeah it makes sense it’s just funny how the writers will just do whatever they want for convenience after introducing such a huge thing. It should’ve just shorted out or been removed at the end of Generations. Insurrection is probably the worst one, but it's close
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Oct 4, 2020 03:15
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Insurrection has the best commentary track. Nemesis has no redeeming features.
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III and V are dogshit movies but at least have something going on. I feel like I’m just staring at a wall here. Data’s being very emotional for someone who left their emotion chip at home. Maybe he put it back in off screen or when they put his memory drives back in. Unmature fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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Oct 4, 2020 03:19
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It's been said many times, but Insurrection was more of a TNG 2-parter than something that deserved a film.
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It would still probably be the worst two parter
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So I am watching TNG for the first time in years and even as a kid I mostly watched in syndication so the exact order of episodes has always been kind of fuzzy to me. I just the finished the Royal, and it has bit where Data explains the rules of craps and it's written as if Riker doesn't understand the concept of gambling (because lol 20th century humans where primitive) which is weird because the first poker scene was about ten episodes earlier. A lot of ink has been spilt about the tension in TNG's first two season between of the show trying replicate the original series' formula and the more character driven drama that the show becomes and that really summed it up to me.
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Oct 4, 2020 03:42
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The worst part about Insurrection is how deeply, deeply unlikable the Baku are. And then the last minute twist about the Son'a being their children just makes them seem even more like total smug, selfish assholes.
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side_burned posted:So I am watching TNG for the first time in years and even as a kid I mostly watched in syndication so the exact order of episodes has always been kind of fuzzy to me. I just the finished the Royal, and it has bit where Data explains the rules of craps and it's written as if Riker doesn't understand the concept of gambling, which is weird because the first poker scene was about ten episodes earlier. A lot of ink has been spilt about the tension in TNG's first two season between of the show trying replicate the original series' formula and the more character driven drama that the show becomes and that really summed it up to me. TNG had dozens of writers over time, accepted numerous spec scripts, and Gene and his lawyer would in the early days actively gently caress up everything. So at least mild continuity errors are a given.
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Enterprise S2:E22 - Congenitor - I don't care for that conclusion. Particularly Archer making a point to say "and a kid that won't be born"
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So all these blue panels when Picard fights F Murray Abraham were supposed to be special effects and they just ran out of budget to fill them in right?
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Insurrection and Nemesis have congealed into one movie that I can’t remember. I’m guessing I shouldn’t bother rewatching them?  I’m on Season 7 of my DS9 rewatch and I like Ezri a lot more now than I did the first time. But holy poo poo why would you stay on DS9, the whole “avoid reconnecting with people from your previous hosts’ lives” thing seems like really good advice, especially when your joining just happened. I know it was down to terry leaving and other behind the scenes stuff and I’m just yelling into the void but yikes the awkwardness would be unbearable  like why not just introduce a different character? IdkEdit: i just saw that someone who posted earlier may be watching ds9 for the first time so spoilered just in case HOLY FUCK fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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HOLY gently caress posted:Insurrection and Nemesis have congealed into one movie that I can’t remember. I’m guessing I shouldn’t bother rewatching them? Please do and come back with a report on the experience.
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Lol Pulaski literally brings a 40 to a dinner party, that rules.
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quote:Both Star Trek: Deep Space Nine actors Armin Shimerman and Max Grodénchik's scenes were deleted. Grodénchik's appearance as a Trill can be seen in the deleted scenes on the DVD Special Edition. Armin Shimerman's appearance as Quark can be seen in the photo gallery of the DVD, however the scene itself has never been released. Quark would have been seen vacationing on the Ba'ku planet, having arrived there via the USS Ticonderoga.
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Sir Lemming posted:He directed the TNG episodes "In Theory", "Hero Worship", "A Fistful of Datas", "Phantasms", & "Preemptive Strike" I saw one of his RSC productions in London back in the day and this line also captures it. I mean it was an...interesting take on Measure for Measure but neon zoot suits never needed to happen e: welp double checking against my memory and it was actually directed by Nicholas Hytner Bilirubin fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Insurrection has the best commentary track. Nemesis has no redeeming features. Insurrection is the one where Frakes and Sirtis get drunk and just poo poo all over the movie, right?
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Epicurius posted:Insurrection is the one where Frakes and Sirtis get drunk and just poo poo all over the movie, right? Gin-zadi
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Epicurius posted:Insurrection is the one where Frakes and Sirtis get drunk and just poo poo all over the movie, right? Yep. It's a pro watch.
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Oxyclean posted:Enterprise S2:E22 - Congenitor - I don't care for that conclusion. Particularly Archer making a point to say "and a kid that won't be born" I think Archer's speech could have been written better. I would have given him some sort of proto-Prime Directive speech...start by talking about how this is one of the few friendly species they met and then Tripp's actions just maybe ruined that. Then go on to say how, even though Tripp might have meant well, and that, yea, the Congenitors were being mistreated, Earth just didn't have any power to come from outside and try to fix it. All that does is make us hated. Heck, Trip, the Vulcans are our allies and helping Earth at Earth's request, and look how much some people resent them. It's up to them to fix their problems themselves....it's not very satisfying, but it's the only thing that'll stick....unless you want Earth to invade and force them to treat the Congenitors better at gunpoint. Or something like that.
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Finally jumping into DS9 to clean Insurrection out of our heads. Man this is a better first episode than TNG
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Unmature posted:Finally jumping into DS9 to clean Insurrection out of our heads. Man this is a better first episode than TNG DS9 is pretty okay from jump, it never has the kind of lows that you got in TNG. DS9 season one is still the worst of the show though, as is tradition.
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Yeah it's worst episodes would be average episodes on TNG
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That’s good to know because season 5 of TNG has been kind of a slog and watching all the movies during it has not helped. Though we’re about to get to The Inner Light. Just need to make it through a Wesley and a Lwaxana Troi ep first... How have the Greatest Generation episodes on DS9 been? I’ve been getting into that show a lot lately Unmature fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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Unmature posted:That’s good to know because season 5 of TNG has been kind of a slog and watching all the movies during it has not helped. Though we’re about to get to The Inner Light. Just need to make it through a Wesley and a Lwaxana Troi ep first... Greatest Gen has become a lot less fun since they basically turned the podcast from their hobby into a job. You can like kind of tell how much they just go through the motions now. Also they seem to be sucking a lot of the CBS money laundering cock because holy poo poo do they love the hell out of all new Trek. I guess when it becomes your livilyhood you need to make sure to not piss off the wrong people to lose access or something (ie: anyone at CBS) Case in point they think that stupid loving Tribble short trek abortion was like the best thing to happen to Trek since TNG
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I've enjoyed the DS9 run, but it is clearly harder for them to have fun with the show once they get to season 5 and it's just consistently good. There's not much to drive jokes so it turns into a lot of nitpicking. I'm looking forward to the Voyager transition and getting back to turd city.
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red letter media on new star wars once; we can tell any story we want! just re tell old stories DS9 allows star trek to do star trek things with non star trek characters Quark, Rom, and Nog are fun to watch thru season 1-5 and their growth I like most odo stories, he is the fish out of water, the non-human trying to be human becomes more human than a human this time around I enjoy Kira more and all the Kai Winn stuff. Pretty funny how much Jake hates Kai Winn too obviously Garak is always good and I always enjoy the face-turn Dukat does and then heel-turn to join the Dominion
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Epicurius posted:I think Archer ... could have been written better.
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Unmature posted:That’s good to know because season 5 of TNG has been kind of a slog and watching all the movies during it has not helped. Though we’re about to get to The Inner Light. Just need to make it through a Wesley and a Lwaxana Troi ep first... Goddammit, The Inner Light is further away than I thought. Though I will say for a Wesley ep, The First Duty AKA Who Ordered The Code Redshirt was pretty good! I always love a courtroom episode. Measure of a Man and The Drumhead are two of my faves. And I love seeing the inside of Starfleet even if it always looks like a rehab center.
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