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Tip posted:Stormfront's plan to have millions of supes is pretty ridiculous, can you imagine the chaos of every single person having a random superpower? The world would be rubble. Would be even more chaos if all the guys ended up being cursed by Love Sausage Tapir like super power.
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etalian posted:Would be even more chaos if all the guys ended up being cursed by Love Sausage Tapir like super power. If they could stabilize it, it would make trillions for Vought.
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Oct 4, 2020 01:32
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alexandriao posted:Also, on topic: I really really hope that isn't the end of Black Noir. Darn right he did. No one deserves an almond joy. He's been great, get that man a 5th avenue.
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Oct 4, 2020 01:49
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Imagine dying to a mounds bar.
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Oct 4, 2020 02:07
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I feel like there was a lot of kryptonite in this episode. 
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Oct 4, 2020 02:21
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It's the Church. Alastair said he was working out a deal with Stan Edgar. The deal was to shutdown the hearings. The 'randomness' of the attack (including hitting several Vought employees) and the fact that it was perpetrated by a Supe with no connection to the company will give Vought deniability. It will be blamed on a Supe Terrorist who will either be offered up as proof or still mysteriously out there- either way, support will line up behind Vought again and the hearings will be postponed indefinitely. In exchange, Alastair is probably getting his tentacles in the company, including reinstatement of two Church members to The Seven. Starlight isn't around to object to The Deep anymore, and A-Train 2.0 was one of the 'random' targets. I don't think there was any mention of the Deputy Director investigating the Church. I think she was popped to protect an asset Alastair anticipated getting a piece of (Vought) and maybe as a demonstration to Stan Edgar of what Alastair could do for him. My money for the actual head-popper is on the woman who was coaching Deep earlier in the season and made another appearance in this episode, just because it would be funny for such a gentle and sweet-seeming person to have a brutally violent power. As a side note, when Maeve peeled up Black Noir's hood, it looked like he was actually black. If he's still alive (which seems unlikely, given Maeve's presence at the hearing), that would seem to confirm that they're not doing the comic book twist I've heard about with him. Avasculous fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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Oct 4, 2020 03:17
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Bip Roberts posted:Imagine dying to a mounds bar. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't  RIP in peace Black Noir... we hardly knew ya.
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Oct 4, 2020 03:21
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yeah the church makes sense. i hope they have a good reason for why the deputy director got killed first. it still seems so random. howd they know that she literally just figured it out does aleister have powers?
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Oct 4, 2020 03:25
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Avasculous posted:It's the Church. This also lets them nicely set up Cindy as a scapegoat, which might put her back into The Boys' orbit. Stormfront already knows about Cindy, so she'd immediately assume it was her anyways.
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Oct 4, 2020 03:26
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ptkfvk posted:yeah the church makes sense. i hope they have a good reason for why the deputy director got killed first. it still seems so random. howd they know that she literally just figured it out They have made repeated mention of the Church "knowing many things", which on its face just seems like a reference to Scientology's vast membership and reach. But maybe what it's really hinting at is that the head popper can read them first.
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Oct 4, 2020 03:28
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Michael Ironside voice they popped his brains out!
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Oct 4, 2020 03:35
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I'm guessing Starlight will be the initial scapegoat: they'll say she escaped, killed Pyro, then ~rampage~!StashAugustine posted:Michael Ironside voice they popped his brains out! 
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Oct 4, 2020 03:44
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The only way the head popper is Cindy is if Cindy was a member of the COTC before she got put into Sage Grove. If she hitchhiked back to the church at the end of E6 then Aleister could have put her up to it. It doesn't explain Raynor's head getting popped though. I know this is another nitpick but when people get showered with blood in this show nobody seems to be worried about getting STDs or other blood-borne diseases. When EMTs show up to accidents where there's a lot of blood they wear gloves and masks at the very least to make sure they don't get blood on them. When you consider that Translucent was almost definitely a rapist and how he used to disappear for days to go on benders, Hughie should probably have at least a couple different diseases after getting Translucent's blood and guts all over him. And that's just one example. I know it would complicate the show a lot so they don't bother acknowledging it but it's something I think about every time there's gore all over people.
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Oct 4, 2020 03:49
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Avasculous posted:They have made repeated mention of the Church "knowing many things", which on its face just seems like a reference to Scientology's vast membership and reach.
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Avasculous posted:As a side note, when Maeve peeled up Black Noir's hood, it looked like he was actually black. If he's still alive (which seems unlikely, given Maeve's presence at the hearing), that would seem to confirm that they're not doing the comic book twist I've heard about with him. Yeah was trying to tell if it was an intentially black Black Noir or just the actor
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Oct 4, 2020 04:07
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Elephant Ambush posted:The only way the head popper is Cindy is if Cindy was a member of the COTC before she got put into Sage Grove. If she hitchhiked back to the church at the end of E6 then Aleister could have put her up to it. It doesn't explain Raynor's head getting popped though. Yeah I was thinking the same, she could have been a former COTC member... but we'll see. Maybe, maybe not. As far as Raynor, they could have been drugging / torturing her into killing people when they needed to, before she broke out. (Like some goon mentioned before, that's ultimately more powerful or useful to a business than Homelander and you'd think they'd be killing all kinds of people that way if they could) Well, the skin is actually a decent barrier, right? The concern is if you have any cuts or if it gets into an eye or mouth, but its plausible that Hughie could be okay. Also, maybe Translucent's powers include invincibility to STDs?  I'm still laughing / shocked that we got Jack from Jupiter but only in the form of a parody porno 
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Oct 4, 2020 04:08
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Avasculous posted:As a side note, when Maeve peeled up Black Noir's hood, it looked like he was actually black. If he's still alive (which seems unlikely, given Maeve's presence at the hearing), that would seem to confirm that they're not doing the comic book twist I've heard about with him. I don't think they're doing that comic twist regardless. Homelander JR wasn't in the comics and is effectively going to be a replacement for him, I think It works out pretty well, there were other Black superheroes in The Boys comic that had names like "Black ______" riffing on how often that's always gotta be the focus of their comic characters. Black Noir wasn't one of those, but shifting it so his name works for that point (doubly so) makes total sense if they're not doing that twist. It also looked to me like his face may have been scarred? So maybe they gave him a bit of a Deadpool backstory or something. Although it means Homelander was just being straight up before, where it was almost funnier as a joke if Homelander is like "I have a black friend!" and only mentions a guy wearing a black suit.
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Oct 4, 2020 04:11
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Bip Roberts posted:Imagine dying to a mounds bar. I ate one once and wished I was dead.
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Oct 4, 2020 04:14
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I dunno I find the speculation about the identity of the head popper to be strange, yes Cindy could just be misdirection or a future Boys asset that has nothing to do with the head popping but given that we've seen that she can pop heads, do it through a live broadcast and is seemingly a little unhinged and very willing to kill I think it's pretty obvious it's gonna be her doing it.
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Oct 4, 2020 04:29
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Cindy's the boys version of the Russian. We're never seeing them again.
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Oct 4, 2020 04:31
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BrotherJayne posted:Yeah was trying to tell if it was an intentially black Black Noir or just the actor Before I looked up his actor (or read about the twist that they use in the comic) I was definitely expecting that at some point Black Noir would get unmasked and turn out to be some kind of ginger super-whitey. Just because that would be so in character with the theme of corporate bullshit and fake identity that the entire Seven run on.
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Oct 4, 2020 04:50
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I dunno I find the speculation about the identity of the head popper to be strange, yes Cindy could just be misdirection or a future Boys asset that has nothing to do with the head popping but given that we've seen that she can pop heads, do it through a live broadcast and is seemingly a little unhinged and very willing to kill I think it's pretty obvious it's gonna be her doing it. We've never seen her pop a head, she just crushes people like beer cans. We've never seen her interact with cameras at all.
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Oct 4, 2020 04:56
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BrotherJayne posted:Yeah was trying to tell if it was an intentially black Black Noir or just the actor Black Noir... well he doesn't really identify as a race.
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Oct 4, 2020 05:00
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This show is so good at both misdirection and superliminal messaging at the same time.
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Oct 4, 2020 05:03
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Azhais posted:We've never seen her pop a head, she just crushes people like beer cans. We've never seen her interact with cameras at all. Yeah, I was confused by that and thought I missed a scene. The fact that the head-popper only pops heads and Raynor's nosebleed suggest to me it's something a little narrower than general telekinesis. Also, Frenchie and MM both had a front row seat to Raynor and the orderly. If the writers wanted us to think those deaths were similar, it would be weird and feel a little oblivious of those characters not to make that comparison themselves. BTW, for anyone who doesn't know- what the Church did to the Eagle is directly out of Scientology's playbook. If you are in the church and a friend a family member is telling you they are concerned that you're giving all of your money and time to a cult, the church will tell you they are a "subversive person" (SP) and that you must sever all contact with them immediately. If you don't, you get excommunicated yourself. Avasculous fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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Oct 4, 2020 05:04
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We have seen Cindy look at the camera but we don't know whether she was actually staring through it or if she just knew it was there because of her previous run ins with security. We haven't seen her pop heads, all she's done is crush people and she moved her hands like she was squeezing when she did that. Some Goons are bad at watching TV. 
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Oct 4, 2020 05:54
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Rampant speculation on my part here, but I wonder if Annie and Hughie are going be found family for Ryan. God knows those two would be an improvement on the rest of that kids extended family.
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Oct 4, 2020 06:02
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side_burned posted:Rampant speculation on my part here, but I wonder if Annie and Hughie are going be found family for Ryan. God knows those two would be an improvement on the rest of that kids extended family. I hope Ryan moves in with his great aunt, she was awesome.
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Oct 4, 2020 06:27
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Azhais posted:We've never seen her pop a head, she just crushes people like beer cans. We've never seen her interact with cameras at all. When they're looking at the surveillance footage Kimiko lingers on the feed of Cindy and she slowly looks up at the camera and seems to know someone is watching her. It's very deliberate and definitely meant to imply some degree of telepathy, whether it's specifically through cameras or not.
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Oct 4, 2020 06:29
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:When they're looking at the surveillance footage Kimiko lingers on the feed of Cindy and she slowly looks up at the camera and seems to know someone is watching her. It's very deliberate and definitely meant to imply some degree of telepathy, whether it's specifically through cameras or not. Or maybe people occasionally look directly at security cameras, moreso if they're currently engaged in murdering the people who man them.
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Oct 4, 2020 06:49
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brain-pop ant-man theory havers: how do you figure that the tiny super is actually popping heads? do you think he's flying up the nose and growing because that's going to work once before someone notices a small but not as tiny as previously dude where the victim's head used to be. Is he shrinking, flying inside, and then punching? Because the force is outwards from a center point it seems like so he'd have to punch in every direction at once? Or is the ant-man shrinking down inside of people's heads and then using another, different power to pop their head, which would make it so the ant-man part doesn't mean anything anyway
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Oct 4, 2020 06:54
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It's also just a spooky trope. I reckon people are over signifying. Occam's razor suggests that it's Cindy, but at the end of the day it's not really that interesting a question. Uhh to me anyway. I'm more interested in how the country at large is going to react to the mass murder, rather than who did it.
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Oct 4, 2020 06:54
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yeah it's not like it's actually all that important I'm just curious, I got a buddy who's a Tiny Supe theorist and he didn't have a reply to that question so I was wondering if anyone else who thought that here would have something lol
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Oct 4, 2020 06:59
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Babe Magnet posted:yeah it's not like it's actually all that important I'm just curious, I got a buddy who's a Tiny Supe theorist and he didn't have a reply to that question so I was wondering if anyone else who thought that here would have something lol I meant the staring at camera thing. I'm not on the tiny supe train, but man, if that's the case then more power to your elbow.
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Oct 4, 2020 07:00
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Defiance Industries posted:I hope Ryan moves in with his great aunt, she was awesome. Judy? Yeah she owns but I don't think we'll see her again. I hope we do though.
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Oct 4, 2020 07:16
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I try and I try, but I just can't get past Karl Urban's accent in this. John Nobel's wasn't much better, but it's at least consistent with his son's.
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Oct 4, 2020 07:19
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Or maybe people occasionally look directly at security cameras, moreso if they're currently engaged in murdering the people who man them. I mean yeah people do that in real life but when you have a lingering shot of someone looking at the feed, then a slow zoom as they look up at it all menacingly at the precise moment they start watching them, then cut back to a confused reaction, that's pretty basic visual literacy stuff. It's a very deliberate series of shots that in combination are meant to communicate something to the viewer beyond "she just happened to look at the camera." She also had no idea anything was wrong at that point - they'd snuck in and silently killed the guard but it hadn't gone off the rails yet. edit: which is not to say that she 100% without question blew up everyone's head by watching them on the TV or anything, just that the way that segment was shot seems to very much imply at least some tiny degree of clairvoyance / telepathy. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Oct 4, 2020 |
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Oct 4, 2020 07:19
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Babe Magnet posted:brain-pop ant-man theory havers: how do you figure that the tiny super is actually popping heads? do you think he's flying up the nose and growing because that's going to work once before someone notices a small but not as tiny as previously dude where the victim's head used to be. Is he shrinking, flying inside, and then punching? Because the force is outwards from a center point it seems like so he'd have to punch in every direction at once? Or is the ant-man shrinking down inside of people's heads and then using another, different power to pop their head, which would make it so the ant-man part doesn't mean anything anyway Shrink down, fly up inside, expand to the size of a grapefruit, then immediately shrink back down to undetectably small before the head even finishes exploding.
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Oct 4, 2020 07:21
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I mean yeah people do that in real life but when you have a lingering shot of someone looking at the feed, then a slow zoom as they look up at it all menacingly at the precise moment they start watching them, then cut back to a confused reaction, that's pretty basic visual literacy stuff. It's a very deliberate series of shots that in combination are meant to communicate something to the viewer beyond "she just happened to look at the camera." She also had no idea anything was wrong at that point - they'd snuck in and silently killed the guard but it hadn't gone off the rails yet. ITT people wish they'd spent an extra 50 cents to have little Post-It notes over the monitor in question with helpful little messages like NO | DON'T LOOK AT HER | SERIOUSLY written in broad-tip Sharpie.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I mean yeah people do that in real life but when you have a lingering shot of someone looking at the feed, then a slow zoom as they look up at it all menacingly at the precise moment they start watching them, then cut back to a confused reaction, that's pretty basic visual literacy stuff. It's a very deliberate series of shots that in combination are meant to communicate something to the viewer beyond "she just happened to look at the camera." She also had no idea anything was wrong at that point - they'd snuck in and silently killed the guard but it hadn't gone off the rails yet. But, like, this happens all the time in TV and film, and I've never seen it be the case that the person on the other end was aware they were being watched, or capable of sending head explosion magic through the camera lens. (Which, uh, why didn't she?) If it turns out to be foreshadowing, then awesome, but you can forgive everyone else for lumping it in with all the other times it was just generic spookiness.
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