Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Captain Stalin posted:

Yea, I just feel bad for those defendants who're having this nightmare dragged out.

Hopefully it does get kicked back down so the fees and penalties can be adjusted up.

The trial judge already included increased sanctions for an appeal, so once the lower court is affirmed, they'll go back down and have to pay out the additional sanctions as well.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Mr. Nice! posted:

The trial judge already included increased sanctions for an appeal, so once the lower court is affirmed, they'll go back down and have to pay out the additional sanctions as well.

One begins to wonder how much of a dent this will put in Mama Mignogna's bank account and if it'll be enough to be significant one that actually hurts.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

Captain Stalin posted:

Yea, I just feel bad for those defendants who're having this nightmare dragged out.

Is this what the constant appeals are really about?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

Is this what the constant appeals are really about?

There have been two attempts at an appeal in this case. They weren’t done to harass the defendants like the original complaint. They were done to try to make up for vic’s attorney completely and utterly loving up at the trial level. The first was dismissed as untimely if i remember right and the second is the appeal we’re in now.

There is a cross appeal, though, because some of the defendants have challenged the trial judge’s fee reductions. They’re going to win that and Vic’s bill will be that much larger.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Mr. Nice! posted:

There have been two attempts at an appeal in this case. They weren’t done to harass the defendants like the original complaint. They were done to try to make up for vic’s attorney completely and utterly loving up at the trial level. The first was dismissed as untimely if i remember right and the second is the appeal we’re in now.

There is a cross appeal, though, because some of the defendants have challenged the trial judge’s fee reductions. They’re going to win that and Vic’s bill will be that much larger.

It does feel like before all is said and done they're going to get everything Chupp didn't care about introduced into the case proper.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Dawgstar posted:

It does feel like before all is said and done they're going to get everything Chupp didn't care about introduced into the case proper.

Vic's side isn't going to win anything. They're 100% wrong and have been. Judge Chupp's only error in his ruling, imo, was reducing one defendant's fee award to match the others.

The Texas appellate court will issue its ruling within the next few months. There are a few potential outcomes:

1. Vic wins his appeal, TCPA judgment against him gets tossed, case goes back to trial court to proceed on the merits. I can confidently say that this has zero percent chance of occurring. With competent representation, this would be slightly larger than zero because you cannot trust appellate courts even when caselaw is crystal clear. With Vic's current cavalcade of idiocy, this is not going to happen.

2. Chupp's decision is upheld in full. I think Chupp was wrong to reduce fees for one defendant, but he was right everywhere else. This has a decent chance of occurring. I don't know that I would exactly call it coinflip, because this is way outside my personal wheelhouse, but this does happen frequently in appeals. In Florida, the court issues a Per Curiam Affirmed (PCA) opinion. A PCA is an affirmation without opinion and is not appealable. I don't know what Texas appeals courts do, but I'm sure it is something similar.

3. Vic loses and cross-appeal wins. This is the other half of the coinflip. This is the legally correct outcome, which I would rate as most likely. However, legally correct doesn't mean that is how the court will rule. They could easily go with option 2.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

From reading various Twitter threads I don’t think we’re expecting an appeal verdict until around February.

The point of the various appeals is, of course, to wear the defence down.

Agent Escalus
Oct 5, 2002

"I couldn't stop saying aloud how miscast Jim Carrey was!"

Dawgstar posted:

One begins to wonder how much of a dent this will put in Mama Mignogna's bank account and if it'll be enough to be significant one that actually hurts.

One also has to wonder how much cash on hand Vic actually has at this point. Whatever his living expenses are he's gotta be insolvent at some point with no job.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Agent Escalus posted:

One also has to wonder how much cash on hand Vic actually has at this point. Whatever his living expenses are he's gotta be insolvent at some point with no job.

Don't voice actors get residuals?

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

Skwirl posted:

Don't voice actors get residuals?

Depends on the contracts. I think Funimation tends to screw over their VAs in that regard.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

He also has

his mom

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Julias posted:

Depends on the contracts. I think Funimation tends to screw over their VAs in that regard.

Yeah, Funimation is in Texas so it's a right to work state which means you only get paid for the job as there's no union to make things better. Even the union gigs can get screwed over in that regard, which is not a defense of Funimation. Vic isn't seeing anything from FMA, etc, save for being what were once really high appearance fees for conventions and whatnot. I don't know if he did any big union roles where he'd get a check for something.

Waffleman_ posted:

He also has

his mom

Truly the Muscle Man of voice actors.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

https://twitter.com/B_Rabbit843/status/1312736891284971524

Exercu
Dec 7, 2009

EAT WELL, SLEEP WELL, SHIT WELL! THERE'S YOUR ANSWER!!

Mr. Nice! posted:

There have been two attempts at an appeal in this case. They weren’t done to harass the defendants like the original complaint. They were done to try to make up for vic’s attorney completely and utterly loving up at the trial level. The first was dismissed as untimely if i remember right and the second is the appeal we’re in now.

There is a cross appeal, though, because some of the defendants have challenged the trial judge’s fee reductions. They’re going to win that and Vic’s bill will be that much larger.

Only one appeal - It could have been dismissed, but wasn't. It was untimely at the time it was filed, but the court just held it until it was no longer untimely.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Exercu posted:

Only one appeal - It could have been dismissed, but wasn't. It was untimely at the time it was filed, but the court just held it until it was no longer untimely.

I appreciate the correction. Thank you!

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Not strictly related, but... Well, anyone wanna take bets on who they’re going to recast Rohan with?

https://twitter.com/nxonnetflix/status/1320911295399424002?s=21

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

The answer should always be JYB.

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER
Ray Chase, maybe?

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Justin_Brett posted:

Ray Chase, maybe?
Have VA's that voiced MC's from past/future parts of JoJo double-dipped? Robbie Daymond would be good.

No, this is not related to Fire Emblem, shut up!

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010
Ray Chase already voiced a stand user of the week from Part 3 iirc so I guess so?

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Ray Chase was the Yellow Temperance dude in addition to Bucciarati, yes, but also of note are Phillip Reich, who voiced Yuya Fungami in Part 4 and Giorno in Part 5, and Jalen Cassell, who voiced Vanilla Ice and Okuyasu. They don't repeat voice actors very often but they will sometimes.

Ultraklystron
May 19, 2010

Unsafe At Every Speed
Netflix mostly does LA dubs, so yeah, probably JYB?

Bony-Eared Assfish
Oct 4, 2018

Dawgstar posted:

The answer should always be Keston John.

Ftfy, you're welcome.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Ultraklystron posted:

Netflix mostly does LA dubs, so yeah, probably JYB?

They usually use Bang Zoom which is the same studio that does Jojo usually and is basically the big hub for LA

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1327656762154110977 pfft

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

gently caress OFF

2020 just ending in a CRESCENDO

Agent Escalus
Oct 5, 2002

"I couldn't stop saying aloud how miscast Jim Carrey was!"
In the annals of "Wow, small world...!"

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum
I guess if there's a theoretical bottom of the barrel to scrape that hasn't (yet) hit "bad enough to be disbarred", you're going to scrape the same people out

Carpator Diei
Feb 26, 2011

He's in good company:
https://twitter.com/MrDanZak/status/1328830050293215233

Scratchman Apoo
Mar 27, 2011
At the risk of diluting the topic of Vic Mignogna, Quinton Flynn has been outed as being rather skeevy as well.

https://www.thegamer.com/quinton-flynn-sexual-predator-harassment-kingdom-hearts-metal-gear/

Agent Escalus
Oct 5, 2002

"I couldn't stop saying aloud how miscast Jim Carrey was!"
Yeah, he was a guest at our convention a few years ago and at the end of the weekend one of the ladies assigned to be his...handler (ugh out of context, and I ain't typing 'escort') reported that he was "a complete horn dog and so pervy." Hate to say those texts aren't a surprise, but maybe their total vulgarity kind of is.

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
Raiden, no! :smith:

Scratchman Apoo
Mar 27, 2011
To be completely clear, these women were not underage so I'm not trying to say Flynn is a pedorast or anything. But he's at very least using his clout to get his rocks off. Which is still pretty goddamn terrible.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I just loving re-installed Revengeance because I never beat it. Dammit.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Skwirl posted:

I just loving re-installed Revengeance because I never beat it. Dammit.

This sounds like a job for Japanese audio and subtitles!

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




But then you’re missing out on the final boss’s English performance :(

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010

Regalingualius posted:

But then you’re missing out on the final boss’s English performance :(

That’s what YouTube is for, friend.

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

Skwirl posted:

I just loving re-installed Revengeance because I never beat it. Dammit.

i mean

your money is already spent

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Patware posted:

i mean

your money is already spent

Yeah, it's just weird though, if he didn't play the main character I probably wouldn't really care as much.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Skwirl posted:

Yeah, it's just weird though, if he didn't play the main character I probably wouldn't really care as much.

Just do it, you can separate an artist from their work. Polanski had fled the US before I was born but I can still appreciate Chinatown and similarly I’ll replay an MGS game at some point in my life.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply