cmdrk posted:

everyone calm down. this is clearly a SPOOKY HALLOWEEN EVENT at HAUNTED PORT OLISAR instead of a gamebreaking bug.

I call this piece, "Why everything seems to take so bloody long" posted:

quote:

Just to pre-empt the "Why do we need all this in a space sim?" question/criticism:

We don't - its simply the level of depth and complexity that the game is aiming for. If you want to dogfight in an arena, the new Star Wars Squadron game is good for that. There are indies like Infinity: Battlescape that have epic fleet battles. Dual Universe is going to overlap somewhat with SC too. Elite:Dangerous exists for more 'complete' exploration and progression, and is a fine game in it's own right. Even EVE has some thematic overlap.

But none of those games will ever have the fidelity and immersion that SC is already delivering. I've said this a lot, and I'll say it again - in the 8 years since the Kickstarter, there have been exactly zero competitor titles with the same level of ambition and fidelity as SC. I'd very happily consider alternatives if they existed, but they don't. CIG captured lightning in a bottle, and nobody else with the same of level of resources would do something as ridiculously ambitious as Star Citizen. It's a passion project for Roberts, and if you know anything about him you'll know that this is the game he has been trying to make since he was 16 years old, and he can finally do it without suits breathing down his neck. AAA studios like Activision sure aren't going to spend hundreds of millions on Bobby Kotick's childhood dream when they could just plop out the next Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Director's Cut: Game of the Year: Remastered Edition and make 10x what CIG does in annual revenue for 0.1% of the effort.

Of course we have the right to be pissed off and frustrated and critical about the lengthy development process, but for better or for worse, you can't get an experience like SC anywhere else and it's not looking like that will change in the future. Don't roped into the hype or the whales with their overpriced flying wedge of cheese. Only spend the amount you're comfortable with. Keep your criticism constructive. If you find yourself getting emotionally over-invested and frustrated, it's time to take a break from following SC. Just unsub, and check back a year or so later. The game will still be here.

Popete posted:

If I were CIG I would ask this guy to stop trying to recruit for them. What a weird thing to do for a company you don't work for.

Pixelate posted:

So citizens are dying constantly in the PTU

The deaths at Port Olisar are a known issue, trapping people there permanently.

https://i.imgur.com/vN0H9je.mp4
(unmute)

https://i.imgur.com/6taHicf.mp4


The rest are a mystery.

Some say it's the sin of running too fast.

They're all fairly dramatic.




https://i.imgur.com/nCRHuqR.mp4

Mirificus posted:

Of course we have the right to be pissed off and frustrated and critical about the lengthy development process, but for better or for worse, you can't get an experience like SC anywhere else and it's not looking like that will change in the future... If you find yourself getting emotionally over-invested and frustrated, it's time to take a break from following SC. Just unsub, and check back a year or so later.

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/listening2day/status/1312898224064090112

UnknownTarget posted:

The "tools" he's referring to is Adobe Substance Designer, a definitely not CIG product and something that is very standard in the visual effects industry. CIG is using it to generate a heightmap, then they probably have a bit of custom code which lets them bring that in and apply it as a displacement map to the in-game terrain.

Look, here it is in Unreal Engine: https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Landscape/Custom/index.html

Like holy poo poo how are these people so ignorant of the biggest goddamn thing in their lives? It's like a car enthusiast not knowing that you need gas to run a vehicle or at least that the engine works by burning gas in tiny explosions. What the gently caress is with this mindless consumerism that has infected these people's brains?

UnknownTarget posted:

Like holy poo poo how are these people so ignorant of the biggest goddamn thing in their lives? It's like a car enthusiast not knowing that you need gas to run a vehicle or at least that the engine works by burning gas in tiny explosions.

Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

imagine this. you're halfway through your 39 minute qt jump to hurston in your idris. Suddenly you realize that you have to piss. You turn to your science officer and for a second you can't remember if he's an npc or you irl best friend you've known since elementary school. "scotty you have the conn" you say. you walk past marco, who your pretty sure is an npc, lining up a shot on the pool table. you don't interrupt him - he's been a bit grouchy since his pc wife left him and he's had to sleep on hand soljo's foldout sofa bed.

you arrive at the executive head. You line up to the space toilet and watch as your character seamlessly unzips his suit and perfectly aligns with the urinal. Your cock has more polygons than all of the models in skyrim put together. "red 5, going in!" You shout. a little bit splashes on the floor. a new player rushes forward to wipe it up. You smile as you tip him a few credits. maybe he'll have his own idris someday.

just another day in the verse

UnknownTarget posted:

The "tools" he's referring to is Adobe Substance Designer, a definitely not CIG product and something that is very standard in the visual effects industry. CIG is using it to generate a heightmap, then they probably have a bit of custom code which lets them bring that in and apply it as a displacement map to the in-game terrain.

Look, here it is in Unreal Engine: https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Landscape/Custom/index.html

Like holy poo poo how are these people so ignorant of the biggest goddamn thing in their lives? It's like a car enthusiast not knowing that you need gas to run a vehicle or at least that the engine works by burning gas in tiny explosions. What the gently caress is with this mindless consumerism that has infected these people's brains?

Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

imagine this. you're halfway through your 39 minute qt jump to hurston in your idris. Suddenly you realize that you have to piss. You turn to your science officer and for a second you can't remember if he's an npc or you irl best friend you've known since elementary school. "scotty you have the conn" you say. you walk past marco, who your pretty sure is an npc, lining up a shot on the pool table. you don't interrupt him - he's been a bit grouchy since his pc wife left him and he's had to sleep on hand soljo's foldout sofa bed.

you arrive at the executive head. You line up to the space toilet and watch as your character seamlessly unzips his suit and perfectly aligns with the urinal. Your cock has more polygons than all of the models in skyrim put together. "red 5, going in!" You shout. a little bit splashes on the floor. a new player rushes forward to wipe it up. You smile as you tip him a few credits. maybe he'll have his own idris someday.

just another day in the verse

quote:

CIG Chad McKinney@CIG_ChadMcKinney

We've had physicalized elevators for a long time but we actually introduced teleporting variants to solve an issue about not always wanting to build out the areas to support them as they can get very far away from the destinations, with most of it being not very interesting or notable areas along the way (or would take art time to make them notable or interesting, but maybe not the best usage of that art time). As far as when to use the teleporting vs. physical variants? Ultimately that's up to the landing zone teams and I don't want to speak on their behalf for the reason for the current distribution or what it might look like in the future.

quote:

I was wondering what types of surfaces may be cleanable in-game when the 'cleaning system' is in the game(beta or post release). Specifically I wonder if the cleanable surfaces will have multiple layers of cleaning like visible soil and dirt vs invisible bacteria vs invisible residues or cleaning vs sterilization. Is this tech related to the medical system in many ways? Does that mean that cleaning may be tossed into the game sooner than later just because how integrated its systems are to many other critical things?

quote:

CIG Chad McKinney@CIG_ChadMcKinney

We have dirt and wear shaders that are used to make things look dingy, aged, and beat up which can then be dialed back when restoring areas, a part of a larger system having to do with environmental restoration. Now exactly when/how that will be implemented in a way a player has access to is a different question, at the moment we are more focused on the higher level system first.

Pixelate posted:

So after all that work making Wonka elevators, they also just teleport some of them because Wonka was a lunatic?

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/listening2day/status/1312898224064090112

Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

You unzips his suit and perfectly aligns with the urinal. Your cock has more polygons than all of the models in skyrim put together. "red 5, going in!" You shout. a little bit splashes on the floor.

UnknownTarget posted:

Like holy poo poo how are these people so ignorant of the biggest goddamn thing in their lives? It's like a car enthusiast not knowing that you need gas to run a vehicle or at least that the engine works by burning gas in tiny explosions. What the gently caress is with this mindless consumerism that has infected these people's brains?

DigitalPenny posted:

Stay on target red 5 !! Stay on target !

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/listening2day/status/1312898224064090112

BiggestOrangeTree posted:

They better model bacterial evolution so some strains become resistant to certain cleaning solutions. This could really elevate the cleaning gameplay (which even in its current state is already way better than anything AAA games today have to offer).

Greenplastic posted:

Diarrhea based gameplay loops are clearly being worked on, seeing as they already have the rear end-attack death animation in the game, so we can naturally conclude that systems for dispersal of procedural diarrhea stains are coming. This will enable the most high stakes cleaning gameplay, as all diarrhea that isn't properly cleaned can infect more players and NPCs.

Here's how I imagine a typical gameplay scenario: In rough encounter with some Vanduul fighters, certain sub-systems in your ship go down from loss of power. After tending to your wounds you fix the cables, then go to grab a snack, but forget to consider that the fridge has been unpowered for a few hours. The delicious Baanu-made pudding you had been saving has gone bad, and you come down with heavy flows of diarrhea just as you are going through security at Teasa spaceport. You run to the nearest doctor's office, but the doctor is on his way out. You plead for him to treat you, but he refuses. His sister has been caught up in the mining strikes on Mars, and he needs to get there stat, lest she run out of her diabetes medication. poo poo is flowing out your pant legs, and you realize you will soon die from dehydration if you aren't treated immediately. You tell him as much, but he won't risk his sisters life to help a stranger, hippocratic oath be damned. You tell him "Sorry doc, but I'm out of options", and let diarrhea flow onto your hands, splashing it onto his face, rubbing your fingers on his gums. "We're in this together now, doc", you say, "you'll die from diarrhea before you ever reach Mars unless you treat yourself right now." The doctor convulses as the microbes start stirring his intestines. "Bastard! Now I'll never help you!" the doctor says, but you stay calm as your diarrhea mixes with his on the floor. You look him in the eye and say "By the time you've treated yourself, there's no time for you to reach Mars before your sister dies of diabetes." He collapses onto his knees, a pool of liquid brown growing around him. "No! What have you done!" he screams. You turn away from him, then look dramatically back over your shoulder. "Unless...". He looks up at you, desperation in his eyes. "Unless what!??". "Unless you help me. With my Drake Herald we can easily get to Mars in time to save your sister. All you have to do is cure my diarrhea along with your own, as you should have done from the beginning if you had any respect for that oath you took." A surge of shame and diarrhea rushes through the doctor. "... my oath ..." he croaks. Crestfallen, he realizes he is out of options. He holds the door to his office open, and as you pass through he looks back at the pool of diarhhea where he was kneeling, saying, "After that puddle is cleaned, I will paint the ground brown, as a monument and reminder of the time I broke my oath, and the time a spaceman in need taught me a lesson I will never forget." You see tears forming in the corner of his eyes, and realize this NPC will be your friend for the rest of his life - perhaps even join your crew - and all because of some spoiled Baanu pudding.

Show me any game other than Star Citizen where emergent gameplay like this is possible.

Pixelate posted:

So citizens are dying constantly in the PTU

The deaths at Port Olisar are a known issue, trapping people there permanently.

https://i.imgur.com/vN0H9je.mp4
(unmute)

https://i.imgur.com/6taHicf.mp4


The rest are a mystery.

Some say it's the sin of running too fast.

They're all fairly dramatic.




https://i.imgur.com/nCRHuqR.mp4

Greenplastic posted:

Diarrhea based gameplay loops are clearly being worked on, seeing as they already have the rear end-attack death animation in the game, so we can naturally conclude that systems for dispersal of procedural diarrhea stains are coming. This will enable the most high stakes cleaning gameplay, as all diarrhea that isn't properly cleaned can infect more players and NPCs.

Here's how I imagine a typical gameplay scenario: In rough encounter with some Vanduul fighters, certain sub-systems in your ship go down from loss of power. After tending to your wounds you fix the cables, then go to grab a snack, but forget to consider that the fridge has been unpowered for a few hours. The delicious Baanu-made pudding you had been saving has gone bad, and you come down with heavy flows of diarrhea just as you are going through security at Teasa spaceport. You run to the nearest doctor's office, but the doctor is on his way out. You plead for him to treat you, but he refuses. His sister has been caught up in the mining strikes on Mars, and he needs to get there stat, lest she run out of her diabetes medication. poo poo is flowing out your pant legs, and you realize you will soon die from dehydration if you aren't treated immediately. You tell him as much, but he won't risk his sisters life to help a stranger, hippocratic oath be damned. You tell him "Sorry doc, but I'm out of options", and let diarrhea flow onto your hands, splashing it onto his face, rubbing your fingers on his gums. "We're in this together now, doc", you say, "you'll die from diarrhea before you ever reach Mars unless you treat yourself right now." The doctor convulses as the microbes start stirring his intestines. "Bastard! Now I'll never help you!" the doctor says, but you stay calm as your diarrhea mixes with his on the floor. You look him in the eye and say "By the time you've treated yourself, there's no time for you to reach Mars before your sister dies of diabetes." He collapses onto his knees, a pool of liquid brown growing around him. "No! What have you done!" he screams. You turn away from him, then look dramatically back over your shoulder. "Unless...". He looks up at you, desperation in his eyes. "Unless what!??". "Unless you help me. With my Drake Herald we can easily get to Mars in time to save your sister. All you have to do is cure my diarrhea along with your own, as you should have done from the beginning if you had any respect for that oath you took." A surge of shame and diarrhea rushes through the doctor. "... my oath ..." he croaks. Crestfallen, he realizes he is out of options. He holds the door to his office open, and as you pass through he looks back at the pool of diarhhea where he was kneeling, saying, "After that puddle is cleaned, I will paint the ground brown, as a monument and reminder of the time I broke my oath, and the time a spaceman in need taught me a lesson I will never forget." You see tears forming in the corner of his eyes, and realize this NPC will be your friend for the rest of his life - perhaps even join your crew - and all because of some spoiled Baanu pudding.

Show me any game other than Star Citizen where emergent gameplay like this is possible.

Pixelate posted:

So citizens are dying constantly in the PTU

The deaths at Port Olisar are a known issue, trapping people there permanently.

https://i.imgur.com/vN0H9je.mp4
(unmute)

https://i.imgur.com/6taHicf.mp4


The rest are a mystery.

Some say it's the sin of running too fast.

They're all fairly dramatic.




https://i.imgur.com/nCRHuqR.mp4

Zaphod42 posted:

A lot about squadrons treats you like a child. The forced "Hey, giving power to your engines makes you faster! Do it NOW and the game won't move on until you push this button" thing was real tiresome. I played X-WING as a 9 year old with no tutorial, thank you very much. Its not hard to grasp.

Sandweed posted: