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What about that Chaos: Start Collecting box? The sorcerer and Mecha spider look rad, more chaos boys is good, and the new Obliterator sculpts are rad. Two oblits seems like an awkward number though?
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raverrn posted:They didn't touch psycannons or incinerators. jesus loving christ
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Funzo posted:This is a dumb question, but if I'm putting together a successor chapter, I don't need the supplement for the parent chapter right? I'd just need the main SM Codex? You kinda do. See, when you choose your parent chapter you get that chapter's strats and some of their relics (and all of their relics if you spend a strat to get it). And their warlord traits and chapter specific psyker powers too, for that matter. The only thing you can't get are named special characters. So while you can legally play out of just the codex, there is stuff that you may want in the supplements. Kitchner posted:Anyone got any other good ideas for a stand alone unit to just chuck into the mix? Consideration given to how good the unit is and how cool the models are. If it does something cool but not that competitive that's also OK as long as it will actually get to do it. Man, it's hard to tell with the way everything keeps changing from week to week.  That said, I've always liked Defilers, and I think they were pretty decent in late eighth, and should be even better with the general vehicle buffs in ninth.
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Oct 6, 2020 02:15
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Deathwing makes custodes feel pretty bad. And ravenwing bikers are already defensively better than white scars. Can’t wait for the advance and charge Strat to come back with the supplement. Deathwatch meanwhile has mostly nonfunctional kill teams and just when they created a powerful SIA table they took it from 90% of the faction. This update kinda sucks.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:What about that Chaos: Start Collecting box? The sorcerer and Mecha spider look rad, more chaos boys is good, and the new Obliterator sculpts are rad. Two oblits seems like an awkward number though? Note entirely sure that the CSM start collecting now works with Death Guard if that's what you were specifically after. If you're just after chaos marines in general though it's a great kit (I'm looking forward to getting mine). Two obliterators is fine in a small army, they are like 100 points each, they are tough as nails. jng2058 posted:. I did think about a Defiler but I think if I went for something more expensive (points and cost) I think it would be a Forgefiend just so it gets the daemon keyword to benefit from the Master of Summoning and stuff when I get the Start Collecting box. I'm getting a contemptor dreadnought with dual autocannons/butcher Cannons along with a rhino (for possessed) and that's going to be my only two non daemon engine vehicles I think.
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Oct 6, 2020 11:31
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jng2058 posted:You kinda do. See, when you choose your parent chapter you get that chapter's strats and some of their relics (and all of their relics if you spend a strat to get it). And their warlord traits and chapter specific psyker powers too, for that matter. The only thing you can't get are named special characters. So while you can legally play out of just the codex, there is stuff that you may want in the supplements. Defilers absolutely rule and are something that absolutely must be dealt with any tank they get their claws on is basically doomed. 
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Oct 6, 2020 12:18
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Defilers absolutely rule and are something that absolutely must be dealt with any tank they get their claws on is basically doomed. I love the fact no one on that battlefield got the memo that the future is grim and dark.
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Oct 6, 2020 12:29
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Logan Grimnar looks pretty usable for the price which is nice! I just realised they made his one handed axe a lawnmower mode. 10 s8 -3 1d attacks base with all the access to exploding 4/6s is nothing to sneeze at when you've got flat 3d mode too. Can't wait until I'm allowed to play haha. Also I more or less finished my first indomitus man 
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Oct 6, 2020 13:06
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Defilers absolutely rule and are something that absolutely must be dealt with any tank they get their claws on is basically doomed. I'm doing Chaos Knights (as soon as my god drat giant robot arrives. For whatever reason it's taking twice as long as my other stuff to get here); and I'm really debating off-shooting to include smaller Chaos units for a Patrol detachment to throw a defiler or two in. I really want it to be a giant piss-off army, with minimal troops because I think Chaos has some of the best looking "vehicles". I also have all the cultists of the abyss from travelling down the Blackstone Fortress series and I think them, plus the other stuff would be this weird conglomerate of Chaos forces that would be a tickle to play. That all said with me having never touched Chaos and having really no idea how all their stuff works.
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Oct 6, 2020 13:08
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Der Waffle Mous posted:jesus loving christ Warpflamers for Thousand Sons were also left out. Guess their flame weapons are still 8"! 
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xtothez posted:Meanwhile my Vertigus set arrived so I'm going back to laying pipes. You're like a Vertigian Ron Jeremy.
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Between the very mobile chaplain on bike and the new commanding oratory strat; to use litanies at the start of any phase, SM are now in practice one of the factions with the most reliable "out of deepstrike" charges - almost across the entire board. Doubly so for chapters that have additional specific charge bonuses, like black templars, space wolves and blood angels (though canticle of hate is not cumulative with any other charge bonuses, but does work with rerolls for example). In theory this even works out of drop-pods on turn 1 as far as I can see? I was wondering if it's the plan for most factions to have ways of building armies for (an) 'easy' (50/50+) charges out of deepstrike? To make the battles more dynamic or similar for example. With that in mind I was looking over the necron codex, but as far as I can tell they mainly have the constant +1 to charges from novokh/dynastic but I don't really see anything else. They do have nifty move shenanigans both with the veil and monolith (mainly core though) and the chronomancer can give reroll charges to a unit. I'm not sure they have much in the way of arkana or warlord traits or anything to further boost the distance itself. Both wraiths and ophydians seem to be stuck with the +1 and command point reroll. E: I guess in a purely probabilistic perspective, you have to count the probability of the litany going off (and if master of sanctity warlord trait), and potentially using the reroll in the same phase where you might need it to reroll a charge, if that's the main source of rerolls. It's still pretty good though, and if you end up using it even once in a battle, the CP reduction on commanding oratory basically pays for the warlord trait. Revelation 2-13 fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Oct 6, 2020 15:26
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xtothez posted:
I saw a great tutorial on rust effects done on these pipes! I think the guy used to do the vallejo pigment tutorials, he says in the comments. https://youtu.be/DBdTO8jR6Fs Basically he applies pigments to a layer of thinned matt cote varnish (the thinner keeps it soft), applies masking fluid over rusty spots, then puts down the base colours. Then after removing the masking he reactivated the pigments trapped in the soft varnish with more varnish creating some beautiful streaks. I tried it out on some barrels but I hosed up by using an enamel paint as a base coat without realising it, so pulling off the masking pulled off everything down to the primer. I'm gonna try again on my sector mechanics terrain when I finally get round to cracking that Renegade box in the boot of my car
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poo poo I completely blanked on being able to have my terminator wolf priest use a strat to canticle. That's absolutely golden.
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TBH i'm super stoked for Space Wolves outriders ganged up with a bike primaris chaplain and drop pod blood claws/dread to meet up with them and/or get on objectives asap. They seem to much more fun than the current tau build I have of "stealth units and drones to harass and board control backed up by anti-tank units"
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Spanish Manlove posted:TBH i'm super stoked for Space Wolves outriders ganged up with a bike primaris chaplain and drop pod blood claws/dread to meet up with them and/or get on objectives asap. I'm wondering how the fact the Chaplain on bike gets WOLF PRIEST is going to work. Like is he going to be able to heal/revive models like the apothecaries? If so that seems awesome as hell. If not, "Wolf priest" just means "space wolf chaplain" now.
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Oct 6, 2020 16:36
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Am I nuts or do Blood Angels lose the Red Thirst, it doesn't appear to be on the index
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Am I nuts or do Blood Angels lose the Red Thirst, it doesn't appear to be on the index It's in the new Space Marine codex, which has the basic chapter tactics for Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, and Deathwatch now in addition to all the old First Founding + Crimson Fists and Black Templars it used to have. None of those four chapters that used to get their own codexes are getting their own codexes in 9th, just codex supplements. (But Grey Knights still get their own!)
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Oct 6, 2020 17:12
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Who wants a new Tyranid?* *or possibly a dead Tyranid as a trophy on some other model
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Oct 6, 2020 17:39
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Or quite possibly AoS/Warcry related. Could even be Dark Eldar.
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On the one hand, I feel like they wouldn't put a chain-and-piton on a Tyranid model, but on the other hand, I wouldn't put it past them nowadays to sculpt a giant tyranid monster so that it has an incorporated Guardsman being torn in half or something that's structurally essential to the space bug not falling over. And I guess they could have the guardsman be climbing a tiny cliff with a chain and piton.
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Nah the spiky nature of the chain makes me think dark eldar is closer to the money, or whatever replaced the fantasy version of bdsm elves in AoS
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Oct 6, 2020 17:46
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That spike looks very much like the old gargantuan spider that the forest goblin boss rides.
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Oct 6, 2020 17:47
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It's a Hive Tyrant playing tetherball.
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Oct 6, 2020 17:51
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Maybe they're finally doing Exodites but letting them take Aspect Warriors and using the launch of the Exodite army to fit the other revamped Aspect Warrior kits into the release schedule as part of the big hyped launch event, since they don't really do new models without some sort of launch event tie-in nowadays.
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 Ahh ok I ordered the Warriors and Skorpekhs I needed off ebay cause I'm not paying cost of Elite Starter Edition just for one of each sprue.
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Two Beans posted:It's a Hive Tyrant playing tetherball. Tyranid Blood Bowl Team?
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Eej posted:
Good to know that if I ever need anything in the Elite starter box I should just buy the Elite starter box and stockpile everything else in it until I need it later.
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Eej posted:
tag yourself, I'm White Dwarf (French) price: $9 american champagne posting fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Oct 6, 2020 20:17
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I am the overpriced products.
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Boiled Water posted:tag yourself, I'm White Dwarf (French) I said come in! posted:I am the overpriced products. I'm the oversized bearded bloke
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Oct 6, 2020 20:54
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Gargants 200 dollars holy poo poo.
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Oct 6, 2020 21:00
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Defilers absolutely rule and are something that absolutely must be dealt with any tank they get their claws on is basically doomed. I always loved defilers, but started playing in 5th and always felt that they were too bad at shooting/fighting for something inhabited by an eternal spirit of shooty fightiness. It was one of two ways of getting large blast templates as CSM and people still liked it mostly over the goodbad model. I finally used one in early 8th, and having stratagems to give it rerolls and make it more reliable helped. But I moved away and didn't ge tto play much since. Are they still +4 to hit ballistics and melee?
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Sephyr posted:I always loved defilers, but started playing in 5th and always felt that they were too bad at shooting/fighting for something inhabited by an eternal spirit of shooty fightiness. It was one of two ways of getting large blast templates as CSM and people still liked it mostly over the goodbad model. Defilers are pretty good now because vehicles fire non blast weapons into close combat when engaged and don't get -1 to hit for moving. It's still WS BS 4+, and shoots hitting on 5s in close combat, but it still does shoot everything but the battlecannon. I didn't realise it was a daemon engine though, I thought it was just a robot, so I may reconsider including one, though the model is a bit dopey as its a bit old.
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Kitchner posted:Defilers are pretty good now because vehicles fire non blast weapons into close combat when engaged and don't get -1 to hit for moving. It's the OG daemon engine, in fact. It was a daemon engine in the fluff before they ever came up with the keyword!
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jng2058 posted:It's the OG daemon engine, in fact. It was a daemon engine in the fluff before they ever came up with the keyword! Yeah I think that's why I missed it, I'm so used to it just being a bigger dreadnought it didn't even occur to me. I was looking at the model earlier though and it just looks too dopey. I think I'll just wait until I get the started set, and I've ordered some Gal Vorbak to be possessed, a demios rhino, and a Great Unclean One. Between all that, my 10 Chaos Marines, 5 Chaos Terminators, and Keeper of Secrets I have plenty to paint. Plus I can't play 2,000 points until covid is done with anyway, so for now I'm limited to 1,000 due to my table size.
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For_Great_Justice posted:Gargants 200 dollars holy poo poo. Legit sad that I can't buy an ork gargant for $200
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Kitchner posted:Note entirely sure that the CSM start collecting now works with Death Guard if that's what you were specifically after. If you're just after chaos marines in general though it's a great kit (I'm looking forward to getting mine). Ok, thanks. I'm, eh, not entirely going into playing for a while because of life constraints and not having played since 5th edition, so I'm working on Death Guard and picking up neat looking Chaos models as I find them in case I ever want to do a mixed army, since those are apparently a thing now.
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Have any units been named as a supreme commander yet? I don't really understand why a named chapter master isn't but I guess it's reserved for very expensive models? Ghaz maybe? Also lol Santa can advance and charge now. I'm building his sleigh. Merry loving Christmas, here's 16 attacks with exploding fours, enjoy.
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