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This game is so weird, losing isn't a loss condition, just either a restart or a different angle on the same kingdom you're working on. Ireland is united, and I'm also the King of Wales (somehow). The powerful military leader kaks it in his 70s and his successor has no fight, no allies, and no respect. Ireland gets it poo poo pushed in for a couple decades. Lose half of Wales, lose Ulster, barely fend off the rest of England and Scotland by marrying off my infant daughters to the HRE and Norway in exchange for alliances. The next guy comes around, a real sneaky knife-in-the-back kinda guy. Young and hale too. Do you know how you defeat a massively powerful kingdom on the other side of the water from you with 3x your military and allies out the wazoo? Murder 3 English kings in a row, destabilizing their kingdom and flipping random counties to foreign governments as the lines of succession end up hopelessly tangled. Now all I have to do to reunite Wales under my rule is dickpunch Castille. edit: Also, is it normal for your vassals to be constantly squabbling? It seems like there's always some low-grade fighting going on between my duchies. Not much changes and taxes keep rolling in, so I don't think it's a big deal? Sometimes it even seems beneficial. These welsh nobles are super feisty, and one of them conquered a county on their own that I had been eyeing. El Spamo fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Urraca Jimena is the best start I’ve tried so far. Stabbing your way to the through your family and becoming the Mother of Spain atop a pile of corpses is so good. Then just leaning hard into the dread tree and just torturing and killing every single person who looks at you funny, making sure to keep your dungeons filled up with neighbouring muslims when you need to relive stress and top off dread. Between absolute crown authority and being a woman, every single vassal hates my guts and can’t do poo poo about it or they wake up dead
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Oct 6, 2020 15:37
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Dread is so powerful, even without perks for it. I've been stocking up on infidel prisoners before succession so my heir can burn them at the stake when they ascend to get max dread. Really cuts down on post-succession faction shenanigans. It'd be nice to see more covert resistance from vassals at high dread, because as it is it's really easy to keep them all cowed.
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Oct 6, 2020 15:44
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 So ends the tale of the accidental Roman Empire. I barely did anything for the past 100 years, just sat and watched my vassals expand on their own. I'm thinking a Kushite game next. Gonna echo the views of most here and say that game, in general, owns. It's incredibly polished and easy to get into, and it runs so much better than CK2. I was barely getting any slowdown at all by 1453. A lot of the randomness that made CK2 annoying has been taken out, while the stuff that kept it interesting has been left in. I even like the fact that you're locked into gavelkind for so long, which makes the choice to spend your dynastic prestige on improving the tree or disinheriting heirs one of real strategic importance. Would love to see some of the features from CK2 return. Playable republics (maybe even non-merchant ones), epidemics and a bunch more events would be great.
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Oct 6, 2020 16:06
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Blimpkin posted:Yeah religion needs to be sorted, but I am really starting to hate the "smallpox over the walls" event. I don't think I've ever seen a disease infect more than two people in my court. Most of them kill the initial victim and nobody else. There must be a bug or something because CK2 was way more deadly and you actually had to seriously consider secluding yourself in particularly bad outbreaks.
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Oct 6, 2020 16:07
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I've had some pretty bad luck, even with a good physician. However I have had two rulers survive infection, and one I actually chose the hard treatment for one. But almost all my outbreaks since I started playing around in central and eastern europe have been because of this event chain.
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Oct 6, 2020 16:14
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When I got the bubonic plague event, I just dismissed the affected courtier from my court and that was the end of it. Doing so should probably impact prestige or have a chance of the courtier refusing to leave.
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Oct 6, 2020 17:49
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bgreman posted:When I got the bubonic plague event, I just dismissed the affected courtier from my court and that was the end of it. Doing so should probably impact prestige or have a chance of the courtier refusing to leave. Yeah this is what I do too, and so I've never seen anybody actually important get infected. It's always some nobody I would have had no idea was even in my court to begin with.
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Oct 6, 2020 17:54
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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What do courtiers even do all day?
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Oct 6, 2020 17:55
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Jay Rust posted:What do courtiers even do all day? My wife, apparently.
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Oct 6, 2020 17:56
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bgreman posted:When I got the bubonic plague event, I just dismissed the affected courtier from my court and that was the end of it. Doing so should probably impact prestige or have a chance of the courtier refusing to leave. I know, the issue I have is when someone tosses a pox-ridden corpse at my feet. I wish that with, say a high learning ruler, I could just burn the body on the spot or something, instead of needing to chance someone getting sick. When I have just a regular infected courtier I usually dismiss as well.
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Oct 6, 2020 17:57
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Blimpkin posted:I know, the issue I have is when someone tosses a pox-ridden corpse at my feet. I wish that with, say a high learning ruler, I could just burn the body on the spot or something, instead of needing to chance someone getting sick. When I have just a regular infected courtier I usually dismiss as well. Yeah I gotta admit, I always choose the "Study corpse" option in that event and have yet to get the "courtier is infected" outcome. I agree that since the patch this event is way too common when you have rivals.
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Oct 6, 2020 18:09
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Jay Rust posted:What do courtiers even do all day? they courtie
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Oct 6, 2020 18:19
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itd be cool if you could appoint ladies/lords in waiting and so on and it wouild make people happy. like for example you could give your powerful vassal's third son a senior position in the royal household and it would make the vassal happy. but then the guy would get access to your secrets and stuff and youd need to make him happy as well.
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Oct 6, 2020 18:22
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Similarly, I'd like something like the old honourary titles, but with more mechanical impact.
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Oct 6, 2020 18:23
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Similarly, I'd like something like the old honourary titles, but with more mechanical impact. Master of Swans keeps coming into court panicking that the duchal leisure palace are being sabotaged in a variety of petty and lightly destructive ways by an intractable goose.
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Oct 6, 2020 18:30
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strong bird posted:itd be cool if you could appoint ladies/lords in waiting and so on and it wouild make people happy. like for example you could give your powerful vassal's third son a senior position in the royal household and it would make the vassal happy. but then the guy would get access to your secrets and stuff and youd need to make him happy as well. I've started taking in my vassals kids as wards and then purposely training them wrong "lazy, content, shy." Everyone is usually happy in the end, especially if that ward befriends me or my heir.
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Oct 6, 2020 18:33
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Blimpkin posted:I've started taking in my vassals kids as wards and then purposely training them wrong "lazy, content, shy." Everyone is usually happy in the end, especially if that ward befriends me or my heir. I do that but I definitely avoid lazy. I always aim for my powerful vassals to be competent so I can actually put them on the council. I don't know if it affects their taxes and land management if they're actually good at stuff, I would expect they'll do better at running their domain if they are capable though.
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Oct 6, 2020 18:44
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stewardship and martial directly modify their taxes and levies
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Oct 6, 2020 18:47
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Similarly, I'd like something like the old honourary titles, but with more mechanical impact. I think the problem is it's hard to find universally applied titles. Everyone needs a doctor. Probably everyone will have a designated regent. But after that?.. Byzantines have their own old titles. Muslims might have court philosopher and court poet (honestly not sure how much of Arabian Nights orientalism is in this idea). We'll probably see those in respective expansions.
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Oct 6, 2020 18:56
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Court philosopher shows up as an event at least, also you can recruit an herbalist to your court
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Oct 6, 2020 19:12
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Similarly, I'd like something like the old honourary titles, but with more mechanical impact. speaking of titles, how many "nicknames" are in ck3? I don't think I've ever gotten a 'The Fat' or "The Bald" - and it seems yet others like "The Great' are intrinsically linked to certain historical characters (e.g. Alfred of Wessex if he becomes Petty King) and decisions (like "Form Portugal") Excelzior fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Oct 6, 2020 19:13
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Excelzior posted:speaking of titles, how many "nicknames" are in ck3? I don't think I've ever gotten a 'The Fat' or "The Bald" - and it seems yet others like "The Great' are intrinsically linked to certain historical characters (e.g. Alfred of Wessex if he becomes Petty King) and decisions (like "Form Portugal") I got to be "The Conquerer" for a particularly long-lived martial king who did a freaking ton of expansionist wars.
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Oct 6, 2020 19:37
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Is there any way to determine who somebody killed when they have the "familial kinslayer" trait? I've got a huge house so I don't care too much, but my first two born have it and I'd like to know who they offed.
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Oct 6, 2020 19:51
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edit: oh wait this isn't true. But familiar kinslayer implies a) they killed a close relative and b) it's known, so maybe check the death reasons of their siblings or cousins? The old game had a Kill List button on the character screen for just such questions but I guess that one didn't make the jump. Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Oct 6, 2020 |
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Oct 6, 2020 20:01
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Excelzior posted:speaking of titles, how many "nicknames" are in ck3? I don't think I've ever gotten a 'The Fat' or "The Bald" - and it seems yet others like "The Great' are intrinsically linked to certain historical characters (e.g. Alfred of Wessex if he becomes Petty King) and decisions (like "Form Portugal") I think there's a fair number but they seem to come up pretty rarely. I had a strong duke named Diana the Bully in one of my games, who was very cool, and I've gotten "the Wend" from a decision and "the Unrelenting" from an event.
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Oct 6, 2020 20:09
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You get "the Lawmaker" for building the Sicilian Parliament, (also absolute power).
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Oct 6, 2020 20:14
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What does it take to make a vassal swap their culture? I keep converting this one dukes counties, but he keeps converting them back.
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Oct 6, 2020 20:36
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You get The Flayer for being really nice to your vassals and court jk it's for making torture an art
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Broken Cog posted:What does it take to make a vassal swap their culture? I keep converting this one dukes counties, but he keeps converting them back. Tutor his heir and check the culture box
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Antifa Spacemarine posted:Tutor his heir and check the culture box I had completely forgotten that was a thing, seems like a long term project, cheers!
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Oct 6, 2020 20:52
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Canopus250 posted:Is there any way to determine who somebody killed when they have the "familial kinslayer" trait? Yeah I have no idea either! I'm not sure it's even true - my sister had it and I went and reviewed literally every single person in the dynasty tree and none of them died under suspicious circumstances or were known to be killed by her. No idea. as a sidenote, I really wish there were something you could do when one of your family members is imprisoned by someone. I just have to watch this pissant vassal torture my brother to death and can't do anything about it despite having the wealth and military power to crush him like a bug.
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Oct 6, 2020 20:57
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Started as the count of Dagon in 867, and within 2 years I had 1400 raiders from Sjaelland pillaging me. Dagon is literally the furthest possible coastal province from Denmark, and he had to have started sailing day 1 to go pillage me. He captured a couple of my kids, and I couldn't ask him for a ransom because he was out of diplo range. I feel like maybe the AI should stick to raiding with diplo range, since not being able to get my sons back was super unhelpful. Thankfully despite the learning education, my count really liked to produce kids: 
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Oct 6, 2020 21:00
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All nicknames: https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Nickname
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Oct 6, 2020 21:08
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Yeah, my house is over 400 living members right now so I don't think I'll be able to find it easily. Just another one of those small things I hope they add as updates come.
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Oct 6, 2020 21:10
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Zero One posted:All nicknames: https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Nickname The only lifestyle titles I have ever gotten has been from learning, so they seem extremely rare.
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Oct 6, 2020 21:13
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Holy crap, why didn't anyone tell me how lucrative crusades are? I just went on two and was able to fund mercenaries, the conquest of a big chunk of Scotland, and a bunch of building upgrades. All that for faffing about in the backwoods of the holy land.
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Oct 6, 2020 21:41
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El Spamo posted:Holy crap, why didn't anyone tell me how lucrative crusades are? Even better is redirecting them to areas near you and putting some niece or nephew on the throne and then using your house head claim to claim their title and take it from them, if you like that sort of thing.
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Oct 6, 2020 21:51
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Blimpkin posted:Even better is redirecting them to areas near you and putting some niece or nephew on the throne and then using your house head claim to claim their title and take it from them, if you like that sort of thing. I mean, yeah! I'm slowly learning the kinds of dumb paperwork that makes kingdoms grow. Right now I'm playing the marry->murder game and scooping up counties enough to usurp a duchy. Scotland will be mine! Also, somehow I installed an Irish queen on the throne of Syria. The game asked me if I wanted to play out that royal line instead. I stayed with the homeland, but I can't help but wonder how things would have done if I decided to take the helm of the most incongruous rulers of the holy land possible.
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El Spamo posted:I mean, yeah! I'm slowly learning the kinds of dumb paperwork that makes kingdoms grow. Right now I'm playing the marry->murder game and scooping up counties enough to usurp a duchy. Scotland will be mine! I did that once, crusaded for Poland coming out of Moravia, and played as the Crusader Queen who then came back for Granddad's kingdom 20 years later.
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