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G-III posted:The fact that they show the TOS characters as a still from TAS is the cherry on top. I was a little lukewarm on the first couple of episodes, but holy poo poo it got super good super fast. I think Ransom stabbing Mariner in the foot and revealing actual depth to his character was the moment I went “yeah, this is good Star Trek”. I also love that the message of the finale was aimed right at ChudTrek’s forehead: things change, get over it.
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Phylodox posted:Calling it now: Boimler gets busted back down because he becomes the Titan’s Mariner. We already saw the beginnings of that with Boimler impressing his new crew mates with his lived experience instead of his learned knowledge. That would be awful. Boimler's transformation wasn't earned at all because they turned the character into a worthless fuckup for one-shot jokes but it is exactly the character arc that was promised at the start: he's the young ensign who's desperate to impress and tries to do it via obsessing over the rules, and doesn't realise that what they need to succeed is just gain a bit of life experience to understand how the rules are supposed to interact with reality. That's a good wholesome arc, the show just teleported from start to end without doing any of the stuff in the middle. Also lol at anyone who was telling me that Mariner was starting to change or get a character arc . Her character arc from the episode didn't even resolve itself, it just quietly went away.
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Oct 8, 2020 19:32
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ElBrak posted:It just shows you what happens to a Commander Worf type who is let off the leash. He.. ensures the mission succeeds and sacrifices his life to save the people under his command?
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Oct 8, 2020 19:32
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Pakled ships?   The Titan:    Spock helmet, and possibly Sulu's rapier:  The facial expression Shaxs would want us to remember him with:  Ransom covering up after discussing whether Mariner does or does not get him hard: 
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Oct 8, 2020 19:52
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ElBrak posted:I can't imagine how slapdash the TOS era second contact crew would be. Probably lost a lot of ships that way.
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Oct 8, 2020 19:53
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Did anyone else hope that whoever was holding the Spock helmet (chief engineer?) was going to put it on, and it would do amazing stuff?
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Oct 8, 2020 19:54
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Boimler's character made more sense to me when I thought if him as being that game theory guy on YouTube. Him and his fake smile.
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Oct 8, 2020 20:00
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I'm still not sure I like the show and the explicit TOS joke was awful, but that was otherwise a very solid episode and I'll be damned if the Titan warping in to save the day with the TNG theme blaring didn't make me smile. Season 1 overall has been extremely uneven and the humor just flat-out does not fit most of the time, but season 2 has some actual potential if things don't immediately return to the status quo and they actually try to give the characters a little growth.
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Oct 8, 2020 20:02
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A.o.D. posted:For season 2 for lower decks I would love a cameo featuring Kelsey Grammer, and he's still the captain of the Boseman and he's STILL wearing the movie uniforms. He just keeps flying into temporal anomaly after temporal anomaly.
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Oct 8, 2020 20:06
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Cursed to travel through time in search of when everyone knows his name
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Oct 8, 2020 20:22
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Tars Tarkas posted:Cursed to travel through time in search of when everyone knows his name On his five year mission to seek out tossed salads and scrambled eggs
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Oct 8, 2020 20:25
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The man has balls so huge he took his shittyass Miranda kitbash up against a goddamn Borg cube and (might have) survived.
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Oct 8, 2020 20:26
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I loved the background gag of all the Solvang’s crew’s shoes beside the turbolift door on the bridge. Such a fantastic episode, I need more! MORE! It’s amazing how much plot and emotion they fit in. The long moment of silence after the Solvang’s destruction made it feel very poignant, not just a comedy moment.
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Phylodox posted:Calling it now: Boimler gets busted back down because he becomes the Titan’s Mariner. We already saw the beginnings of that with Boimler impressing his new crew mates with his lived experience instead of his learned knowledge. I hope they deal with it like Worf in the TNG movies. He's just there, but most of the time nobody explains why. Keep him in the First Contact/DS9 uniform too, and never comment on it.
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Oct 8, 2020 21:14
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That was the best episode yet. I hope the wait for season 2 isn't too long.
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Oct 8, 2020 21:29
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I love Mariner narc'ing on Riker for being her chief supplier of Illegal poo poo and Troi just lowkey goes "we're gonna have a talk about this..." This show is so fun, Riker totally would hook his proteges up with the good stuff.
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Shaxs' special shuttlecraft was great. Especially him leaning into the action movieness of modern trek. The episode was great and the whole run probably the most tightly written and run S1 of Star Trek ever. But that's not as surprising since runtime-wise it's 5 episodes of any other run. Looking forward to season 2 when it drops.
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"I hate it when a ship gets repaired and comes out looking all sovereign class" 
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For a second there I thought this was all leading to Mariner being Shax's replacement while she was having a heart to heart with her mom.
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Oct 8, 2020 23:01
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Hispanic! At The Disco posted:Pakled ships?  They've all got the lovely little triangular "generic alien ship" that appeared a lot in TNG and DS9 at their core amongst the roided-out guns and engines. (Said ship was, of course, used for the Pakleds in 'Samaritan Snare'.)Edit: just to add that I love the use of colour in these shots. It's like Chris Foss's Star Trek. Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Oct 8, 2020 |
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Oct 8, 2020 23:03
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Payndz posted:
I appreciate that except for the central pakled hull, they're all different due to being welded together hulks.
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Mariner's weapons and garbage all over the ship is the same thing as the water in Signs. Hopefully Boimler is just gone. Show should have a rotating cast of ensigns if it's going to continue.
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Super Deuce posted:Hopefully Boimler is just gone. Show should have a rotating cast of ensigns if it's going to continue. Redemption arc for Ensign Peanut Hamper, coming right up!
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Oct 8, 2020 23:17
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Nodosaur posted:I don't want to believe he's gone Of all the souls I've ever met, his was the most... hardcore. (Stole that from a YouTube comment)
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Oct 8, 2020 23:21
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Man, the Solvang warp-shredding herself was super cool. And really brutal.
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Super Deuce posted:Mariner's weapons and garbage all over the ship is the same thing as the water in Signs. But I'd miss ensign hughie!
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In the far-flung future, phasers make different noises! I don't hate the interior ship aesthetic, but the weird tactile console thing seems pointlessly futuristic. It doesn't seem functional at all, just kind of weird.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:In the far-flung future, phasers make different noises! Far Flung Future Trek has always been pretty weird. Case in point: the USS Relativity and the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-J.
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The tactile console would be better if it was also a full display? Also, to give you the sense of the development timeline apparently they've known the Titan would be in that episode for ~a year. Did Riker and Troi look kinda wierd to anyone else? Not inaccurate, just it almost looked like a different style to the rest of the show. I think it might be that the Lower Decks style isn't very good at replicating specific real people so they had to stray a little. Also it does very clearly show how the big bold colour lower decks uniforms do look much better in an animated show that darker ones like the DS9 uniforms. I like how the Titan is so plush and luxurious on the bridge with wood panelling and soft lighting and the Enterprise-E Conn and Ops consoles. I was hoping Peanut Hamper would be a cool new regular lower decks person but then she was a dick.
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nine-gear crow posted:Far Flung Future Trek has always been pretty weird. Case in point: the USS Relativity and the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-J. that is fair, I just kind of hate that console, I can't put my finger on quite why yet.
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MikeJF posted:I was hoping Peanut Hamper would be a cool new regular lower decks person but then she was a dick. A dick just aimlessly drifting in (pakled) space for all of time. Even if they were to get back on a federation ship, they would likely just be court martialed and ejected.
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Fun fact for the day! Jonathan Frakes has now appeared in six different Star Trek series. As director, he's worked on five Trek series, soon to be six (he's on tap to direct at least one ep of Strange New Worlds). e: Plus some movies in each category.
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Interview confirming a few things carrying into season two from the finale https://trekmovie.com/2020/10/08/mike-mcmahan-and-the-star-trek-lower-decks-cast-reveal-what-we-will-and-wont-see-in-season-2/ Tl;dr Shax is confirmed gone (new security chief next season) and Boimler will be "starting" next season on the Titan so get ready for Riker Personally I hope Boimler just misses his friends and asks to transfer back to the Cerrito. Maybe even remaining an ensign as a connecting person between lower decks and command. It'd be a nice sign of growth.
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Powered Descent posted:Jonathan Frakes has now appeared in six different Star Trek series. As director, he's worked on five Trek series, soon to be six (he's on tap to direct at least one ep of Strange New Worlds). I hope they give him a cameo in the background of Strange Nwe Worlds and Discovery just for funsies. Not even as Riker, just to keep up the Jonathan Frakes tradition.
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I get that Shaxs is dead and his actor confirmed he’s done with the show, but there’s no way that we’ve seen the last of him. Maybe not S2, but I have to believe we’ll see a cameo sometime before this series wraps for good.
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Martytoof posted:I get that Shaxs is dead and his actor confirmed he’s done with the show, but there’s no way that we’ve seen the last of him. Maybe not S2, but I have to believe we’ll see a cameo sometime before this series wraps for good. There's always the Mirror Universe!
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Mokinokaro posted:Tl;dr Shax is confirmed gone (new security chief next season) This is the weirdest thing to me because it seems like such a natural character development to have Mariner take the position. Weird rule-breaking solutions are always a security or engineering mainstay, it would give Mariner an excuse to interact with her mom more, and it would just be a nice way for her to finally accept a promotion and larger responsibilities. The finale even seems like it was purpose built with that change in mind.
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MikeJF posted:I hope they give him a cameo in the background of Strange Nwe Worlds and Discovery just for funsies. Not even as Riker, just to keep up the Jonathan Frakes tradition. Have him host the 23rd Century version of Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction. And also the 32nd Century version, but he has electronic doodads stapled to him for some reason.
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