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i have no idea what A>E means, I just picked that tweet randomly from search results. most of the accounts tweeting about this seem to be #releasethesnydercut types
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obviously it's related in some way to Mr. A
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Sep 25, 2020 18:58
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Art Over Entertainment is what it's short for, respect the artist intentions and the work is sacred etc
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Sep 25, 2020 20:44
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its accountability over entertainment
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Sep 25, 2020 20:45
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Assholes over Elbows, meaning don't skip your burpees
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Sep 25, 2020 20:55
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I though it was Alpacas over Emus, a good way to tell if an exotic petstore is good.
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Sep 25, 2020 22:03
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For someone who enjoyed John’s work when it was new as fun entertainment and the occasional well-crafted story is this a case of him doing something specific, or does he have a track record of being a lovely, mean employer? Or is this something that grew/popped up when he got significant power? Following monthly comics was one of the biggest mistakes of my 20s both financially and socially.
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:For someone who enjoyed John’s work when it was new as fun entertainment and the occasional well-crafted story is this a case of him doing something specific, or does he have a track record of being a lovely, mean employer? Or is this something that grew/popped up when he got significant power? We don't really know yet, everything we have is pretty vague.
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Sep 26, 2020 02:09
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Vince MechMahon posted:We don't really know yet, everything we have is pretty vague. I don't think this is ever going to go anywhere if there aren't some specifics from someone. "He was abusive" is in and of itself sufficiently vague enough that people can write it off, much as WB already has. Lots of people in Hollywood are hard-to-work-with assholes.
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Sep 26, 2020 06:58
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People who are assholes when they are in positions of authority were almost always assholes when they weren’t.
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Jordan7hm posted:People who are assholes when they are in positions of authority were almost always assholes when they weren’t. I mean, yeah. That's a given. I wasn't trying to imply anything otherwise.
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Sep 26, 2020 16:10
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Blockhouse posted:I don't think this is ever going to go anywhere if there aren't some specifics from someone. "He was abusive" is in and of itself sufficiently vague enough that people can write it off, much as WB already has. Lots of people in Hollywood are hard-to-work-with assholes. Right now I expect people in the industry are afraid of saying anything for fear of never being hired by DC again.
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Sep 26, 2020 16:15
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Dawgstar posted:Right now I expect people in the industry are afraid of saying anything for fear of never being hired by DC again. basically we should wait for the trial to happen and some actual accusations to be levied is what you're saying
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Sep 27, 2020 00:26
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KaosMachina posted:basically we should wait for the trial to happen and some actual accusations to be levied is what you're saying Accusations have been levied. I was saying why you aren’t currently seeing past or present DC writers stepping forward to corroborate it.
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Sep 27, 2020 03:31
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Ray Fisher has stated at least one story of Johns calling him well after Justice League was finished to gloat to him about how the Cyborg in Doom Patrol isn't being played by him.
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Roth posted:Ray Fisher has stated at least one story of Johns calling him well after Justice League was finished to gloat to him about how the Cyborg in Doom Patrol isn't being played by him. Man that is so loving petty.
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Sep 28, 2020 05:58
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Back in like 2010-2011, I guess, Geoff Johns was contributing a lot to the final seasons of Smallville, when they were broadening the scope of heroes in that world. If I recall, a lot of the characters being featured were legacy versions of the heroes, like Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle, and I randomly @ed him about how it was a shame that he was including these characters in his TV work but was one of the main architects of replacing them with their old while male counterparts in his comic work. (I think was probably around Flash: Rebirth?) What I thought at the time was a totally fair criticism! Like five minutes later I, a complete rando, had a nasty DM from him saying that I didn’t know him and that I shouldn’t ever doubt his commitment to writing and introducing POC characters to the public! I mean, looking at his career, I feel like I stayed correct! He makes a lot of gestures towards representation but a lot of the times that just means “Cyborg is in this!” But whatever it’s what soured me on Johns! He was personally a dick to me for what I feel was justified criticism of his work! That’s all I have to add; I’m not surprised he is privately very mean and aggressive!
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Doesn't this just make them massively vulnerable to lawsuits if they ever manage to successfully publish a comic? Edit, forgot the tweet https://twitter.com/forexposure_txt/status/1312162345607548929?s=20
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Oct 2, 2020 23:55
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LoL. "Hey guys just send finished comics to us, we won't possibly gently caress you over"
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Rhyno posted:LoL. "Send us all your story ideas, if we ever publish something or somehow, miraculously get a movie deal out of this, there's no chance it will involve an idea we were sent but never paid for." When JK Rowling was still doing book tours a bunch of fans would try and hand her their fan fiction and there was a guy who's entire job was to make sure Rowling never touched those, because her publisher knew enough to not want to have to deal with a lawsuit because one of the hundreds of thousands of fan fiction writers managed to predict "the hero ends up with the best friend's younger sister who had a crush on him" or whatever.
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Skwirl posted:"Send us all your story ideas, if we ever publish something or somehow, miraculously get a movie deal out of this, there's no chance it will involve an idea we were sent but never paid for." She should have got a guy to stop people from handing her printed out mumsnet posts instead.
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Skwirl posted:"Send us all your story ideas, if we ever publish something or somehow, miraculously get a movie deal out of this, there's no chance it will involve an idea we were sent but never paid for." yeah, I believe DC and Marvel make a point of refusing to accept unsolicited submissions for more or less the same reason, to avoid liability. In Marvel's case, I think I recall Tom Brevoort mentioning the Thunderbolts/Charcoal debacle as a reason for doing so, though that wasn't quite the same thing (in that case, the issue was a Wizard create-a-character contest where Wizard failed to establish clearly enough that Marvel wholly owned all rights to the winning character)
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Barry Convex posted:In Marvel's case, I think I recall Tom Brevoort mentioning the Thunderbolts/Charcoal debacle as a reason for doing so, though that wasn't quite the same thing (in that case, the issue was a Wizard create-a-character contest where Wizard failed to establish clearly enough that Marvel wholly owned all rights to the winning character) Speaking of Thunderbolts and contests, wasn't there an issue in which there was (I think) a big fight scene with like 20-30 super obscure villains, and the reader who could name the most of them got ... something? I know I'm mixed up, because I had it in my head that Charcoal's creator was the winner of that contest, but reading that it was in Wizard, I know I've got to be wrong. But for some reason I could swear there was a fan-created villain in that super obscure lineup thrown in as a stumper.
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I know the spread you're talking about. It was the last page of issue #24 and the gotcha villain was from a Hostess Fruit Pie ad.
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How Wonderful! posted:I know the spread you're talking about. It was the last page of issue #24 and the gotcha villain was from a Hostess Fruit Pie ad. Thanks, that's exactly it. And I was more mixed-up than I thought: according to this writeup, "Thunderbolts#24-25 was part of a 'name the first appearances' contest". Not having recognized Icemaster from the Hostess ads, I would have thought that was Jack Frost because I read every issue of the Dwyer/Lim Captain America about a million times when I was a kid (I read the issues drawn by Rik Levins out of loyalty but they looked pretty bad and didn't get reopened nearly as often)
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Not sure what the loving snydercut assholes did but they drove Doc Shaner off twitter. https://twitter.com/jeffparker/status/1314353818356785152?s=20
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RevKrule posted:Not sure what the loving snydercut assholes did but they drove Doc Shaner off twitter. Apparently they thought this tweet https://twitter.com/DocShaner/status/1313863272987324422?s=20 Was an attack on the Snyder films
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Imagine defending the artistic vision of a man who hasn’t made a good movie since the Dawn of the Dead remake in the mid 2000s
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Internet Wizard posted:Imagine defending the artistic vision of a man who hasn’t made a good movie since the Dawn of the Dead remake in the mid 2000s I heard good things about the owl cartoon.
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Internet Wizard posted:Imagine defending the artistic vision of a man who hasn’t made a good movie since the Dawn of the Dead remake in the mid 2000s That movie loving sucks.
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Skwirl posted:I heard good things about the owl cartoon.
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Doc's original thread is a cornucopia of people falling over themselves to defend Man of Steel when he wasn't even talking about it.
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RevKrule posted:Not sure what the loving snydercut assholes did but they drove Doc Shaner off twitter. He is fine https://twitter.com/docshaner/status/1314376418785099777?s=21
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Must everything be so dramatic? https://twitter.com/DocShaner/status/1314376418785099777?s=20  I don't see much point in getting angry at people that Doc Shaner himself isn't really that upset with.
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Not to mention that Red Eye Superman as a trope predates Synder Superman (Synderman?)
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Oct 9, 2020 03:29
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I'm all for the Snydercut getting done but "I'm just touchy about" is complete bullshit man.
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FilthyImp posted:I'm all for the Snydercut getting done but "I'm just touchy about" is complete bullshit man. Regardless, it seems to be resolved and an understanding was reached.
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I just don't get why people get so upset when people don't like some movie that they like. Get over it and move on. I don't lose my poo poo when I see an article saying Star Trek V is the worst Trek film, even though I enjoy the hell out of it, and it's been 30 years.
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Davros1 posted:I just don't get why people get so upset when people don't like some movie that they like. Get over it and move on. I don't lose my poo poo when I see an article saying Star Trek V is the worst Trek film, even though I enjoy the hell out of it, and it's been 30 years. Like 20 years ago I was working with this dude and Pearl Jam came on the radio and I said "ugh, Pearl Jam" and he threw down what he was working on and shouted "THANKS FOR loving INSULTING ME" and stormed out of the store. This dude was also my best friend at the time and this friendship ended in an explosively bad way so this should have been a red flag.
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