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Benne posted:Are people still pretending that MJF is a bad wrestler just because people have a different opinion of a wrestler to you doesn't mean that they are pretending that they aren't good: and to assume otherwise is weird. Pretty sure tweets with a similar sentiment about WWE wrestlers have been made fun of in this thread for very similar reasons. Here's the thing: a lot of New Japan fans were not necessarily big fans of the Elite (especially by the end where BTE stuff seemed to be impacting on New Japan booking which isn't so great if you aren't interested in watching that stuff) and thought that New Japan got better when they left - I'd agree with that: losing Omega was sad and Page could have been something good there but that's about it. That's where the scepticism towards a partnership comes from - most people probably wouldn't mind if it wasn't anything deeper than Omega coming in for a few big matches and some things in AEW that you could willingly ignore but if you like New Japan as it is now more than it was two years ago its natural to not want it to go back to how it was. I certainly have no interest in MJF randomly showing up for a G1 or whatever when you have people like Satoshi Kojima that can't get into a G1 anymore since the roster is so large: especially since I don't think he's very good and stylistically he's a terrible fit and would probably die a death in New Japan.
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MJF/Jungle Boy was basically worked like a BOSJ main event so lol at thinking he's "stylistically a terrible fit" in NJPW
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MJF should be in whatever match would make that guy on twitter actually poo poo his pants in anger, imho.
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Also most of the fantasy booking I've seen.. doesn't really involve The Elite except for Kenny and Hangman? Nobody is like "hell yeah, let's bring Cody back in"
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People always complain about AEW fans being annoying and loud, which I never actually see in my timeline, but I see plenty of smarmy rear end in a top hat Western NJPW fans complaining about AEW. Just an endless seas of white dudes who insist on saying "puroresu" in an exaggerated accent.
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IceAgeComing posted:just because people have a different opinion of a wrestler to you doesn't mean that they are pretending that they aren't good: and to assume otherwise is weird. Pretty sure tweets with a similar sentiment about WWE wrestlers have been made fun of in this thread for very similar reasons. lol he'd be better at wrestling NJPW main events than the last IWGP Heavyweight Champion was, fam.
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I would rather see Cody back than any of The Elite except Hangman (who isn't Elite any more, I think?) as long as they don't make him wrestle Juice again.
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Pylons posted:Also most of the fantasy booking I've seen.. doesn't really involve The Elite except for Kenny and Hangman? Nobody is like "hell yeah, let's bring Cody back in" Cody shouldn’t have dyed his hair until he lost a Loser Quits Bleaching Their Hair match to Okada
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Pylons posted:Nobody is like "hell yeah, let's bring Cody back in" I am. 2017 is a long-rear end way away, since AEW started, Cody has been batting a thousand in the ring. I bet my house Cody vs. Okada today with a crowd would be a MOTY candidate. GEORGE W BUSHI posted:I would rather see Cody back than any of The Elite except Hangman (who isn't Elite any more, I think?) as long as they don't make him wrestle Juice again. Tekkers Fear Bucks
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I mean the first Okada vs Cody match was very good, another one with Cody having figured out “work like my dad but with high spots that he was too big to do” would definitely produce something. Cody’s probably got the easiest route back in of any of them anyway, so far as I can tell he never bitched or complained or tried to change booking or did anything but do what was asked of him by Gedo, try to move tickets for the company, put over Juice strong (as best he could with a bum knee, anyway) when he was asked to, and left the Dome shaking everyone’s hands and thanking them for the opportunity. No complaints about not getting a curtain call at Dash, just operating on the assumption that yeah, one day, he’ll probably be back in that ring, it’s not like he’s retiring or anything. Of course, Cody just wants to be like his dad so he’s going to conduct business like his dad and not burn a bridge unless he absolutely has zero intent of returning to a promotion, like WWE. It’s also probably always going to be the smartest move he’ll make wherever he is.
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Cody hasn’t even burned bridges with WWE. He always puts Hunter over
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WWE would love to have Cody back. They wouldn't use him well at all.
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The Cameo posted:I mean the first Okada vs Cody match was very good, another one with Cody having figured out “work like my dad but with high spots that he was too big to do” would definitely produce something. Gedo is also the world's biggest Dusty Rhodes fanboy, so he's got that working in his favour too.
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Did we wander into the "actually, some pretty good wrestling fan opinions" thread?
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i don't know how anyone can be against AEW and new japan partnering because ibushi vs omega at the tokyo dome is the biggest dream match in wrestling and doing it again at all out or double or nothing would be double money
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Somebody argued with me that Omega vs Ibushi isn't a draw. 
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MJeff posted:Somebody argued with me that Omega vs Ibushi isn't a draw. ... What.
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MJeff posted:Somebody argued with me that Omega vs Ibushi isn't a draw. The Elite messed up a lot of people’s brains
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MJeff posted:Somebody argued with me that Omega vs Ibushi isn't a draw. How much of this is just extremely online NJPW fans holding grudges against The Elite for leaving and *checks notes* being successful? Cause it just looks like really pathetic, petty bullshit to me. Also echoing that aside from goons on here, the NJPW obsessives I've encountered are insufferable. Not as bad as WWE obsessives but pretty close for entirely different reasons.
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Akileese posted:How much of this is just extremely online NJPW fans holding grudges against The Elite for leaving and *checks notes* being successful? Cause it just looks like really pathetic, petty bullshit to me. Most of them hated the Elite before they left.
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Akileese posted:How much of this is just extremely online NJPW fans holding grudges against The Elite for leaving and *checks notes* being successful? Cause it just looks like really pathetic, petty bullshit to me. This is mostly people who got into NJPW via Bullet Club from my experience.
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Jerusalem posted:Uhhh yeah, MJF vs. Ishii sounds like a loving amazing match. It's Ishii. Ishii vs Epico sounds like a loving amazing match. Ishii vs Charlotte sounds like a loving amazing match. Ishii vs Dabba Kato? It might be pretty good idc let's see what happens!
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i enjoy New Japan significantly more without the Elite around and most AEW wrestlers do nothing for me whatsoever so I wouldn't be excited about a partnership. I think that's the case for many people, I don't know why its pathetic or petty to not want something you don't enjoy on a program that you do enjoy
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Low Desert Punk posted:i enjoy New Japan significantly more without the Elite around and most AEW wrestlers do nothing for me whatsoever so I wouldn't be excited about a partnership. I think that's the case for many people, I don't know why its pathetic or petty to not want something you don't enjoy on a program that you do enjoy Same. I'm looking forward to a BOSJ without random generic foreigners from ROH I don't care about to be honest and replacing the lower card dirtbag guys like DOUKI with dudes like Jungle Boy would be a shame imo even it it makes financial sense or whatever. Also AEW should keep working with DDT so Kenny can stop ducking Endo and Takeshita and they can keep booking Yuka GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 10, 2020 |
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Same. I'm looking forward to a BOSJ without random generic foreigners from ROH I don't care about to be honest and replacing the lower card dirtbag guys like DOUKI with dudes like Jungle Boy would be a shame imo even it it makes financial sense or whatever. Flip Gordon wasn't random, they chose him on purpose for some reason
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I had thought Flip was being booked as a favour to The Elite but they kept booking him after The Elite left so idk
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Regardless of who participates the final should be DOUKI vs Way to the Grandmaster Master Wato.
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Eat My Fuc posted:This is mostly people who got into NJPW via Bullet Club from my experience. This makes no sense. "I got into this company because I liked this group of guys and now those guys have their own company so I hate them?"
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Vince MechMahon posted:This makes no sense. "I got into this company because I liked this group of guys and now those guys have their own company so I hate them?" https://twitter.com/johnnylandmine/status/1027929734359859203?s=19
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I still like all of them. I even have the Eagles shirt and he was in it for like twelve minutes.
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:I had thought Flip was being booked as a favour to The Elite but they kept booking him after The Elite left so idk That was my assumption too and I thought they were razzing him on BTE but then they moved on and he very much did not which makes me think... did NJPW request him? Did ROH demand he be given a slot? I will never know! He sucks though.
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Marty and Flip Take Japan lives on in spirit. Except not anymore because who the gently caress knows when we're gonna see Marty again, if ever.
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Seams posted:Actually only Dick “The Spoiler” Togo from Spoiler Club is good This was my trajectory.
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I personally would like to see Hangman do another G1, he really impressed me in 2018. Past him I don't watch AEW so don't really know many of the people there. Plus he can reforge his partnership with big match Yujiro which is a definite plus Now if Katsu Nakajima came to do another G1 (or Kenoh, any of Kongoh really), that's a completely different story. Hook that poo poo directly into my veins, no matter how much of an impossibility it is
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I always wonder what would've become of Hangman if he stuck around. Sugabayashi and Harold both named him as one of their favourite wrestlers.
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