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Thanqol posted:Am I seeing this right? $77 for 10 necron warriors when they're $65 in the Recruit Edition? So: Box set of 10 Push Fit Necron Warriors and 3 Scarab Swarm Bases: £29 Recruit edition: 10 Necron Warriors, 3 Scarab Swarms, 5 Assault Intercessors, Royal Warden, Primaris Lieutenant: £32.50 So for literally £3.50 more you get a space marine character and squad? Why would you ever buy the box set of 10 warriors?
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Oct 11, 2020 01:17
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xtothez posted:The recruit edition will get quietly dropped for 10E in a couple of years, the warriors box is here for at least a decade I honestly think by then they may have sold so many you can't move for a cheap deal with them on ebay
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Oct 11, 2020 01:18
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Lol i just bought 10 warriors and scarabs from someone's indomitus box set for 15 pounds last week and it seems like a bargain now
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Oct 11, 2020 01:46
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BaronVanAwesome posted:We were talkin' about PEWTER and how much PEWTER OWNS*, and after stripping many, many, many second-hand models over the last week, come with me on a very quick photo journey of why everyone should be happy that like everything is plastic now. Even though pewter owns*. Blister photos not mine, everything else I photo'd today for our exciting journey together into nostalgia. This is neat, thx Though what exactly are the "pins" you mention? Like, take a bobby pin and ram it through the wing into the torso? How easy was it to work with Pewter figures? Pewter is on the soft end, but it still had to be tough to work with. If you knew what you were doing, could you solder pieces together? Has GW always price gouged? I can't figure out if 3 pounds for a single space marine is fair or not.
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Oct 11, 2020 02:10
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"Pinning" is the term used for drilling small holes in 2 pieces of a model and glueing some kind of "pin" in(frequently a chunk of paperclip, but any thin metal rod works). Because the pin is embedded in both pieces of the model it will hold it in place way, way better than something only held together by glue. Edit: To be more exact about the process: You start by drilling a hole into the "main" piece of the model, usually the body. You use a very small drillbit and a "pin vice" hand held drill or sometimes a dremel tool. How deep you need to drill depends on the length of the "pin" you are going to use, which is usually a guestimate based on the weight of the piece you are attaching. You glue the pin into that hole. You then drill a matching hole onto the piece you need to attach, such as an arm. Put some super glue in the hole and fit the arm onto the piece of pin sticking out of the body, and bham, you now have an arm that isn't going to come off without some major loving trauma. Khisanth Magus fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Oct 11, 2020 02:30
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I had so many of those metal Steel Legion troopers. I think I still have an old metal Carnifex and Hive Tyrant around here somewhere too.
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Oct 11, 2020 02:44
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Ugh. The old Eldar war walkers were insanity.
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Oct 11, 2020 03:09
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Funzo posted:I had so many of those metal Steel Legion troopers. I think I still have an old metal Carnifex and Hive Tyrant around here somewhere too. I have the 3rd edition metal carnifex and tyrant that I had converted with old dragon wings all floating around in pieces in my bits boxes. Also 2 of the old metal tyrant guard which were probably my least favourite models I ever bought. Just so drat ugly. I had an idea to cut one up to repose it to resemble the newer hive/tyrant guard, but I got as far as sawing the leg joins before deciding all the effort would be better saved painting the 3rd edition models that are, actually good: raveners biovores and zoanthropes.
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Oct 11, 2020 03:31
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The old 3rd edition devastator box was plastic marines that weigh next to nothing with giant chunks of metal for guns being held in front of them. My plasma cannon dudes would fall on their faces constantly.
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Oct 11, 2020 04:16
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Bladeguard Vets are so fuckin cool
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Oct 11, 2020 05:00
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iirc you still gotta pin some of the big resin models from Forgeworld and a lot of people still pin models to bases for painting so you can have them stand on a base and then you can take them off to paint the base seperate. The pegs in the push fits accomplish this without drilling!
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Oct 11, 2020 05:13
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I preordered some necron stuff from GW but haven’t gotten an email saying it shipped; is that normal? How long after the release day does it usually take to get your stuff?
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Oct 11, 2020 06:28
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fashionly snort posted:I preordered some necron stuff from GW but haven’t gotten an email saying it shipped; is that normal? How long after the release day does it usually take to get your stuff? Usually it ships out on the Thursday before, but covid 
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Oct 11, 2020 06:29
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Spiv posted:Ugh. The old Eldar war walkers were insanity. Stop, I'm already stressed enough.
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Oct 11, 2020 06:52
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Spanish Manlove posted:Bladeguard Vets are so fuckin cool Nice! I'm about to convert mine to wolves, I put this dude together today but I can't find my greenstuff to finish his pelt and add one to cover up some chopping damage  
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Oct 11, 2020 06:56
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Spiv posted:Ugh. The old Eldar war walkers were insanity. I built three for a friend with swapping weapon load outs. I had to double pin all the major pieces and fill the square base with lead beads to make it balance well. So much pain.
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Oct 11, 2020 09:33
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BaronVanAwesome posted:
Oh man this brings back some memories! My brother had that Bloodthirster, but there was no internet to tell us about pinning and we didn't live anywhere with a big modelling scene, so we just added more superglue when the wings fell off. I think in the end the metal surfaces weren't even touching, it was just two blobs of dried superglue being stuck to each other.
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Oct 11, 2020 12:14
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fashionly snort posted:I preordered some necron stuff from GW but haven’t gotten an email saying it shipped; is that normal? How long after the release day does it usually take to get your stuff? I ordered stuff a little over a week ago, got a shipped notification but the tracking number never activated? Anyways it just got tossed on my porch yesterday, tracking number still doesn't work, who knows what's going on over there.
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Oct 11, 2020 14:03
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Spiv posted:Ugh. The old Eldar war walkers were insanity. I maintain these were probably the worst metal miniatures for design and assembly. Other miniatures were heavier or with more pieces, but none of them involved trying to stick six different pieces onto a small central ball that was basically just a collection of joints. It was made worse by the fact that shape and design made pinning it really tedious, especially the legs because there was hardly room for pinning. Then you'd bump a lascannon, and the whole thing would suddenly explode into pieces. I have one of these to repair and another to complete, not sure when I will ever have the fortitude for it: 
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Oct 11, 2020 14:48
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Ashcans posted:Shared distaste for old war walkers I still remember doing my first one. I think I was like 10, or 11, or something and just getting sooooo frustrated. Azerban posted:I ordered stuff a little over a week ago, got a shipped notification but the tracking number never activated? Anyways it just got tossed on my porch yesterday, tracking number still doesn't work, who knows what's going on over there. I ordered a IK Warden on September 20th. On the 22nd, I got an e-mail saying it shipped. I have yet to receive the tracking number or package and waiting for Customer service to respond will take possibly up to two weeks.
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Oct 11, 2020 15:02
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/11/sunday-preview-martian-souls/ Expensive weekend for the Bone Squad
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Oct 11, 2020 18:51
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I'm buying that stupid as hell bunker for my fists. It's just so perfectly dumb.
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Oct 11, 2020 19:50
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That C'tan base looks so drat fragile.
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Oct 11, 2020 20:36
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I hope someone eventually kitbashes/sculpts/whatever a version of that Convergence of Dominion that looks like what its concept art must have looked like before they started refining it to be easily cast in plastic, because it's a really neat-lookin' idea that suffers more than any other kit I can think of in recent memory from the physical realities of plastic injection moulding. I can only imagine seeing it next to the new range of Necron models is going to be like looking at a Duplo block next to Lego.
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Azerban posted:I ordered stuff a little over a week ago, got a shipped notification but the tracking number never activated? Anyways it just got tossed on my porch yesterday, tracking number still doesn't work, who knows what's going on over there. well I never got a shipped notification and it definitely didn’t get delivered yesterday so here’s hoping customer service doesn’t take weeks to respond!
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Oct 11, 2020 20:51
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Mine hasn't even shipped yet.
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Ok I want to build a Kill Team collection from scratch including 2 boards with terrain that gives a lot of variety in teams and boards. Here's what I'm going with so far: Recruit edition box - should give me enough for a Necrons team and a Space Marine team - $45 Ork Boyz + Ork Lootas - Good zerg team setup - $60 Plague Marines + pox walkers - $50 TT Combat terrain sets - Ruin sector + Broken Domicilium + Derelict Enclave. Splitting these over two boards should give a good variety of cover, height, and scatter. ~$70 https://ttcombat.com/collections/sci-fi-gothic/products/broken-domicilium https://ttcombat.com/collections/sci-fi-gothic/products/broken-domicilium https://ttcombat.com/products/savage-domain-derelict-enclave?variant=29446358925335 Anything else I'm missing? Any better build options for those factions? Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Oct 11, 2020 21:43
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I mean as far as "what to buy to have two kill teams and be able to play at my house" goes that's pretty much it, though maybe not the most competitive teams thats fine for casual games. The only other thing I'd consider is buying a klill team token set to keep track of stuff like falling back, advancing, readying etc If you ewant alternate terrain sets, look at the Necromunda style terrain from TTCombat, it has lots of walkways and stuff which is cool
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Oct 11, 2020 22:21
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All killteam boards should have some cargo containers imo. The GW ones look good and are relatively inexpensive! (although you can also just make some out of cardstock and plasticard *very* easily.
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Bottom Liner posted:Ok I want to build a Kill Team collection from scratch including 2 boards with terrain that gives a lot of variety in teams and boards. Here's what I'm going with so far: Heads up, you can find the First Strike box for $45 shipped, sell off the Marine sprues for around $40 on eBay, and end up with 3 Plague Marines, 6 Poxwalkers, a game board, and a (cardboard) cargo container for functionally free. Pretty drat good way to jump start that Kill Team, especially since you get a Blight Launcher and champ with a Plasma Gun / Powerfist out of it, both of which show up in pretty much every competitive DG list you're going to see. One of the many tricks I have learned from trying to navigate this hobby while being poor as hell lol.
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Oct 11, 2020 22:39
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That would end up costing more for less models though. I want the recruit edition for the 10 Necron warriors and the Space Marine squad. If I got the 3 death guard models I'd still need to buy the $40 plague marine box, more pox walkers, and then also a necron box and space marine box.
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Oct 11, 2020 22:49
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low key appreciate the new cheapest-tier starters actually give you enough models to actually use them in a regular game.
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I finished another model and made some more progress towards getting my scheme just right for my Death Guard army. I'm not in any rush to play, and I have a large pile of shame anyway, so I'm taking my time and learning as much as I can from each model. I haven't painted regularly since ~2014 so I have to relearn old lessons I've forgotten. This latest marine was an attempt to make a distinct, potentially fungal look for the spiny growths. The progression is dark purple to red, then orange, then yellow. It looks neat enough, and when applied to the skulls it resembles old bones left to rot in the ground without bleaching. It's a neat effect, to me at least, and I think I'm going to carry it forward onto the WHFB skeletons I want to use as poxwalkers/plague bearers.  I played around with the canoptek alloy metallics this time, and while it looks fine, I think I like the older blue gentleman's bronze. I wanted to freehand bright fungal spores onto his cloak but I thought about trying to blend and highlight that properly along the folds and chickened out. I don't know what I'm doing with that blade so I need to go do some research on how to make that look nice.  The tiny marine's green started with rhinox hide brown, and I think it has the most depth compared to the newest marine's black basecoat   So there we are. I think as it stands I want to use Blue's metallics, Tiny's green, and the new guy's bone effects. The oldest on the left is a bit sloppy but I liked how his corrosion effects came out on the vents, so I may carry those forward too. Blue plague marines are still an attractive option to distinguish them from the usual too. Then basing!
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Oct 11, 2020 23:34
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Oh wow baby plaguey is adorable next to his gigantic brothers.
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Those Plague marines look great, a bit like "whatt if wood elves were space marines", and to be fair forests are full of rotting stuff. On the weekend I had my two newbie friends around and we played another doubles 40K game with my partner. The last game (which I posted about here) was my friends with the contents of the Elite Starter Set of Necrons and White Scars (10 Warriors, 3 Scarabs, 3 Destroyers, Plasmacyte, Overlord, 5 Assault Intercessors, 3 Outriders, 1 Captain) vs my Word Bearers (1 Dark Apostle, 5 CSM with chainswords, 5 Terminators with combi-plasma) and my partner's Space Wolves (Ragnar, 5 Assault Intercessors, 5 Terminators 3 with TH and 2 with claws). This time we mixed the teams up and it was the two space marine factions vs the Necrons and Chaos. It proved to be interesting because basically we had all the shooting (warriors + terminators) but they had all the good melee. The game started off well for us, with my terminators blowing up the space wolves intercessors (which I felt bad about because my partner had spent weeks painting them and they didn't do anything) and the destroyers mincing up the outriders. The other team was so convinced they were going to lose badly and quickly, that my partner actually went and got different models to use "in the second game". Things then really tilted on their head in the 3rd turn, and the brawl in the middle of the board between basically everything bar the warriors and the scarabs ended up a net result of all the white scars being dead but all the Word Bearers were also dead. What was left was Ragnar, 3 Wolf Guard Terminators, the overlord, the warriors, and 3 scarabs. What we then found out is particularly in these smaller games the fact space wolves can 3" HI on all units and can pay 2CP for a 6" HI is really powerful, and the terminators made mince meat out of the Necrons. Ragnar decided he was going to take the day off and refused to charge a 5" charge twice, only succeeding on a short charge to kill my Dark Apostle. Maybe he thought the other fights were beneath him. We were playing a GT pack Incursion mission, but I ignored secondaries (as this was the first game with stratagems) so we were playing with 5 objectives and it was hold one, hold two, hold more. The end result of the game was exactly 40-40 thanks to the Scarabs being MVP and netting us 5 points in basically every single round of the game. The end result was my friend and I were happy with a draw because while we started strong we were hammered in the second half of the game and were sure we were toast, and the other team was happy because they went from "We're going to lose by turn 3" to "I can't believe we drew". A very fun game overall, and next time it will be the Word Bearers and the White Scars vs the Space Wolves and Necrons. Due to the size of the table we are limited to 1,000 point games, but right now our friends can only field about 320 points each anyway so it's not a problem. However my partner does have 1,000 points of Space Wolves and at the end of this month I'll have 1,000+ points of Word Bearers (with Daemons bulking that out I guess) but to do a 2,000 point doubles game we will have to travel to theirs as my friend has a big enough table.
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Question for the hams guys, I haven't played since I think 7th edition? Anyway, when I did play I had a necron army, one of my friends played grey knights, I always had trouble fighting him, granted I picked my army based on what I thought was cool not useful, what are the best ways to fight grey knights? We might end up having a match using his 8th edition codex sometime soon, and this time I'd like to have a chance lol.
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Tarantula posted:Question for the hams guys, I haven't played since I think 7th edition? Anyway, when I did play I had a necron army, one of my friends played grey knights, I always had trouble fighting him, granted I picked my army based on what I thought was cool not useful, what are the best ways to fight grey knights? We might end up having a match using his 8th edition codex sometime soon, and this time I'd like to have a chance lol. I mean new Necrons vs Grey Knights in 9th edition is tough for Grey Knights in some ways but tough on the Necrons in others. It's tough on grey Knights because anything that isn't a terminator is going to get blown off the board, and if you bring the nightbringer (and you should) then even a Paladin bomb will be turned into red paste. If it's a list with blobs of 20 necron warriors then the terminator squads will find it hard to claim objectives. On the other hand you don't get reanimation protocols from psychic damage and the GK are one of the few armies confident to be able to kill the Nightbringer in one turn (a GK Grand Master in a Dreadknight can theoretically do 3 wounds in psychic, shooting, and combat on its own). It heavily depends on what your friend runs, if it's like strike squads with some terminators new Necrons should smash them apart. If it's what I suspect will be the GK list until their next codex which is lots of smaller terminator squads, the Necrons can contest the objectives better. I think it's favourable to the Necrons overall but you have to watch out for all that psychic damage.
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If I had to haze tabletop gamers I would make them build the old metal gnoblar scraplauncher without pinning. Then if I can break it with one solid jab with a chopstick I scream at them like Gordon Ramsey.
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Kitchner posted:I mean new Necrons vs Grey Knights in 9th edition is tough for Grey Knights in some ways but tough on the Necrons in others. Hmm I don't have many units to choose from (dam fun game being expensive!), but I can definately bring blobs of warriors and a nightbringers thx.
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