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Rookoo
Jul 24, 2007
I'm in the situation where I live in the UK, have a 1080 I'd like to sell to my brother, and would like to end up with either a 3070 or 3080 eventually. Looking into the step up program there's mentions online of EVGA not offering it in the UK due to Brexit, but I can't get a sure answer, which sucks since I'd be happy with a 2070 or something for cyberpunk in the meantime.

Cannot believe this poo poo still isn't settled. It hosed with the prices on my 1080 when I was doing my current build years ago and now it's loving up my new build plans.

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spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Kraftwerk posted:

Anyone who wants a Strix card should be turning your bots and F5 keys on newegg. They’re periodically going on sale at random. Like 2:37 AM EST last night. They drop between 5-7 at a time.

Micro Centers have them too but you gotta go to the store and hope it’s in stock at the time. Feels like every country is getting Strix cards except Canada. Even Aussies are getting theirs.

Ill give it a shot but I’ve decided finally getting a new PC case and getting rid of my 5 1/4 bays will keep me busy for long enough that hopefully things are less lovely.

Until I get my strix I think I’m going to use a Y splitter so my AIO can drive a fan hub and control my entire case.

It might even make sense to leave it that way but I can’t wait to try giving the strix access to all my fans other then the cpu rad.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


MarcusSA posted:

Does this seem like a valid time spy score at 1440p? I can't seem to figure out how to see what other users are putting up.



You can go to https://www.3dmark.com/search (click Results at the top of the website) to see what other people score.

This was my first 100% stock run with the 3080 FE: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/14369680

(and manual OC: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/14375325)

Not sure why your stock score is lower but I'm sure it'll drive you mad.

Pivo fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Oct 11, 2020

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Tech Jesus finally did a teardown of the FTW3 3080: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX1spw5_IX0

The serial number on the card begins with "2014." Makes you wonder if they've really been sitting on these since April.

It means they’ve been sitting on these drat things for six years and I want my money back

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015

I love you Dr. Zaius



BIG HEADLINE posted:

Tech Jesus finally did a teardown of the FTW3 3080: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX1spw5_IX0

The serial number on the card begins with "2014." Makes you wonder if they've really been sitting on these since April.

Are those poscaps I see? :magical:

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



Pivo posted:

The memory has error detection and retransmission since GDDR5. You can clock it high enough that it encounters corruption on the bus but it will automatically retransmit. It will run degraded rather than crashing (to a certain extent).

Do your scores reliably get an uplift at +1300 vs. lower clocks?
i didn't get any perf dropoff, just scaling until it crashed at 2400, 2350 is stable. i was stepping up 50mhz increments and expected a perf drop well before crashes

on the other hand i had everything cooled well so maybe the memory isn't hot enough. still bizarre though thus my earlier post

MarcusSA posted:

Does this seem like a valid time spy score at 1440p? I can't seem to figure out how to see what other users are putting up.


what clockspeed is your 8700k at? i've got the same setup coupled with 3000mhz ram but have been mainly targeting port royal. there's some v odd entries on their boards

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

It means they’ve been sitting on these drat things for six years and I want my money back

Or they've had the PCBs done since the 14th week of April of this year and nVidia sat on the chips until August.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Pivo posted:

You can go to https://www.3dmark.com/search (click Results at the top of the website) to see what other people score.

This was my first 100% stock run with the 3080 FE: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/14369680

(and manual OC: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/14375325)

Not sure why your stock score is lower but I'm sure it'll drive you mad.

Hmm so it’s really only a 1k difference in graphics since you have a better processor.

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

i didn't get any perf dropoff, just scaling until it crashed at 2400, 2350 is stable. i was stepping up 50mhz increments and expected a perf drop well before crashes

on the other hand i had everything cooled well so maybe the memory isn't hot enough. still bizarre though thus my earlier post

what clockspeed is your 8700k at? i've got the same setup coupled with 3000mhz ram but have been mainly targeting port royal. there's some v odd entries on their boards

I’m running it stock at 3.9 or whatever it is.

I’m not sure a 1k difference is really that big of a deal?

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


MarcusSA posted:

I’m not sure a 1k difference is really that big of a deal?

Well it probably doesn't point to anything wrong with your card itself but if you look on 3DMark of scores of people with the same CPU & graphics card as you, you're on the lower end of the curve there, below average. There might be something specific to your system lowering performance, maybe configuration, maybe software. It might be interesting to find out what it is, but it doesn't matter much in the end. Benchmarks are just a tool after all.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Pivo posted:

Well it probably doesn't point to anything wrong with your card itself but if you look on 3DMark of scores of people with the same CPU & graphics card as you, you're on the lower end of the curve there, below average. There might be something specific to your system lowering performance, maybe configuration, maybe software. It might be interesting to find out what it is, but it doesn't matter much in the end. Benchmarks are just a tool after all.

Well... it could be me using one power cable....

I just took the one from my 1080ti.

I know I’m supposed to use two different cables.

I’m having knee surgery on Monday so if I can’t figure it out tomorrow it’s gonnna have to wait a month or so.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

drat Dirty Ape posted:

Are those poscaps I see? :magical:

no, because they arent panasonic and poscaps is a panasonic trademark :v:

but for real a) the entire issue was bullshit and not directly related to what caps were on the back of the gpu
and b) retail versions of the EVGA have a different cap config on the back of the card, only pre-retail samples (like GNs) have that cap config

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
it totally works fine with a single daisy chain cable. It definitely works better with 2 separate ones. I wouldnt worry about it until cyberpunk comes out and you actually push it hard enough to need the extra clocks. You can try raising the power limit in afterburner and setting a more aggressive fan curve. It boosted my scores a fair bit

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Oct 11, 2020

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



The whole needing two cables thing is pretty much specific to Ampere, right? There's almost no likelihood of seeing an improvement on a 2070 Super, right?

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



My current graphics card only has one cable :(

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CaptainSarcastic posted:

The whole needing two cables thing is pretty much specific to Ampere, right? There's almost no likelihood of seeing an improvement on a 2070 Super, right?

pretty sure its been a thing since at least 9xx. Seems more important now that everything boosts by itself out of the box and its running much closer to max.

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

Fauxtool posted:

pretty sure its been a thing since at least 9xx. Seems more important now that everything boosts by itself out of the box and its running much closer to max.

Hmm, I've got a 970 I'm using two plugs on the same cable for. You think I might get a bit extra out of this card if I can dig up my cables? (Gonna need to dig them up anyway when I get a 30xx order on ofc)

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

Zarin posted:

Hmm, I've got a 970 I'm using two plugs on the same cable for. You think I might get a bit extra out of this card if I can dig up my cables? (Gonna need to dig them up anyway when I get a 30xx order on ofc)

I doubt it. The reason it’s starting to matter with the 30xx is the power draw is bumping up towards the maximum two plugs can draw, and running them through different cables makes it more stable. The 970 is rated for 148W max which is well under the 300w those two plugs can supply (theoretically one plug would suffice) so it should be a non issue at that level.

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

"lets make it look like a race car!"

*makes a GPU do blackface"

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

AirRaid posted:

I doubt it. The reason it’s starting to matter with the 30xx is the power draw is bumping up towards the maximum two plugs can draw, and running them through different cables makes it more stable. The 970 is rated for 148W max which is well under the 300w those two plugs can supply (theoretically one plug would suffice) so it should be a non issue at that level.

To piggyback off of this: before putting the 3080 in, I ran a second cable to my 980 ti (one 8-pin, one 6-pin) and there was no difference in power draw compared to the single cable with both 8-pin and 6-pin connections, which is exactly what I expected. Needed it for the 3080 anyway thanks to your early power tests.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:
Got a new motherboard (MSI X570 MAG Tomahawk Wifi) earlier today for Zen 3 and took the time to get the Seasonic 12-pin cable installed. I was a little disappointed after taking it out of the box that they didn't really do much other than make straight cables with connectors but it's free and I have zip ties. So not a big deal. Still way cleaner than the FE's adapter.



AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack
Also,

BIG HEADLINE posted:

The serial number on the card begins with "2014." Makes you wonder if they've really been sitting on these since April.

The serial number on my Gigabyte starts with 2036, so I guess I have some kind of future tech? :awesomelon:

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

AirRaid posted:

Also,

The serial number on my Gigabyte starts with 2036, so I guess I have some kind of future tech? :awesomelon:

It usually means the 36th week of 2020, so the build date of your card (or at least the stamp date of the PCB) was somewhere between 8/31 and 9/6.

"2014" would've been 3/30 to 4/5.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

BIG HEADLINE posted:

the 14th week of April of this year

It really has felt like that, hasn’t it?

Cancelbot
Nov 22, 2006

Canceling spam since 1928

Rookoo posted:

I'm in the situation where I live in the UK, have a 1080 I'd like to sell to my brother, and would like to end up with either a 3070 or 3080 eventually. Looking into the step up program there's mentions online of EVGA not offering it in the UK due to Brexit, but I can't get a sure answer, which sucks since I'd be happy with a 2070 or something for cyberpunk in the meantime.

Cannot believe this poo poo still isn't settled. It hosed with the prices on my 1080 when I was doing my current build years ago and now it's loving up my new build plans.

Im in a similar boat. I bought a 2080 super and put it right on step up. It seemed to work fine for me from the UK and I can see EVGA taking the easy way and slapping a tariff on it.

I’m coming from a 1070 so either way I’ve got a much better card. Not a huge deal if EVGA renege on the offer, but 1080 would be a riskier proposition as you won’t get as much of a performance bump and risk not getting a 3080.

The Last Poet
Oct 9, 2001

8-bit Miniboss posted:

Got a new motherboard (MSI X570 MAG Tomahawk Wifi) earlier today for Zen 3 and took the time to get the Seasonic 12-pin cable installed. I was a little disappointed after taking it out of the box that they didn't really do much other than make straight cables with connectors but it's free and I have zip ties. So not a big deal. Still way cleaner than the FE's adapter.





Could you tell me what model case that is please? tia.

Rookoo
Jul 24, 2007

Cancelbot posted:

Im in a similar boat. I bought a 2080 super and put it right on step up. It seemed to work fine for me from the UK and I can see EVGA taking the easy way and slapping a tariff on it.

I’m coming from a 1070 so either way I’ve got a much better card. Not a huge deal if EVGA renege on the offer, but 1080 would be a riskier proposition as you won’t get as much of a performance bump and risk not getting a 3080.

Yeah, only thing I can really find is a forum post from 2 years ago from an EVGA rep saying

"the Step-Up Option will definitely continue for the future" with regards to the UK.

Tried to register on the evga forums to ask if it's still the case but the registration system seems to be borked (at least for me).

Might just take a chance and go for it considering my brother's buying my 1080 at a decent price and I really cannot be arsed dealing with selling the card on eBay etc.

EDIT: When roughly did you put yourself in the queue?

Rookoo fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Oct 11, 2020

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

The Last Poet posted:

Could you tell me what model case that is please? tia.

That's a Meshify C.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

The Last Poet posted:

Could you tell me what model case that is please? tia.


Incessant Excess posted:

That's a Meshify C.

Yep, that.

Edit: The non-tempered glass model if weren't sure either.

8-bit Miniboss fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Oct 11, 2020

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



Pivo posted:

You can go to https://www.3dmark.com/search (click Results at the top of the website) to see what other people score.

This was my first 100% stock run with the 3080 FE: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/14369680

(and manual OC: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/14375325)

Not sure why your stock score is lower but I'm sure it'll drive you mad.
ran some timespy tests and cranked up my cpu to 5GHz. timespy is mostly stable at +145, memory is fine as well: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/14493200 could probably squeeze more by going with a more unstable OC, but it's a mixed-load benchmark so the rest of the system would be dragging it down tbf

i haven't bothered manually OCing the cpu at all this is just all core 5GHz auto. comparing similar systems i'd need to go and tweak it heavily. on graphics though i'm p happy at 19372. puts me #62 on the overall leaderboard for single gpu 3080. #81 for that port royal score earlier, and i don't really go deep on OCing. it'd be nice if i could compare against the same 3080 sku rather than everyone where they get better limits though

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

8-bit Miniboss posted:

Got a new motherboard (MSI X570 MAG Tomahawk Wifi) earlier today for Zen 3 and took the time to get the Seasonic 12-pin cable installed. I was a little disappointed after taking it out of the box that they didn't really do much other than make straight cables with connectors but it's free and I have zip ties. So not a big deal. Still way cleaner than the FE's adapter.





I have the mini version of your build. It’ll be even more similar when my 3080 gets here on Tuesday :woop:



Can someone link the post where someone outlines a clean install of video drivers?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Popped into a new game of Control with RTX on High (except debris) and was getting stutters including audio before I even got control of the character. I was pretty bummed until I realized I still had nvidia-snatcher running 5 copies of Chrome in a top speed loop. Much better now.

The Last Poet
Oct 9, 2001

8-bit Miniboss posted:

Yep, that.

Edit: The non-tempered glass model if weren't sure either.

Thank you both :)

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Can anyone here who is playing on a Gsync enabled OLED tell me how it works in praxis? Do you enable it in the control panel and the TV and then just set ingame VSync to off and that's it? Are there still perceptible stutters in games when they're loading assets for example? What's the lowest framerate you need to reach for stutters to not be perceptible?

the_enduser
May 1, 2006

They say the user lives outside the net.



Notify me, senpai

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Incessant Excess posted:

Can anyone here who is playing on a Gsync enabled OLED tell me how it works in praxis? Do you enable it in the control panel and the TV and then just set ingame VSync to off and that's it? Are there still perceptible stutters in games when they're loading assets for example? What's the lowest framerate you need to reach for stutters to not be perceptible?

Enable in the control panel and set V-Sync to always on. In games you can turn V-Sync off. It makes gameplay way smoother on the LG C9 between 40fps and 120fps. Loading assets may still cause stutter as that’s a separate issue, but it shouldn’t be a problem with a modern CPU pulling data from an SSD.

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

i finally got to see a 3080 in stock and it was for 1299 on amazon. gently caress me.

Cancelbot
Nov 22, 2006

Canceling spam since 1928

Rookoo posted:

EDIT: When roughly did you put yourself in the queue?

3rd October. Fairly late on but it was accepted fine.

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015

I love you Dr. Zaius



KidDynamite posted:

i finally got to see a 3080 in stock and it was for 1299 on amazon. gently caress me.

If anyone is feeling desperate enough to spend that kind of money look into pre-builts. A few have already popped up with 3080s at around that price and at least you could sell or use the other parts.

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006
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Rookoo posted:

I'm in the situation where I live in the UK, have a 1080 I'd like to sell to my brother, and would like to end up with either a 3070 or 3080 eventually. Looking into the step up program there's mentions online of EVGA not offering it in the UK due to Brexit, but I can't get a sure answer, which sucks since I'd be happy with a 2070 or something for cyberpunk in the meantime.

Cannot believe this poo poo still isn't settled. It hosed with the prices on my 1080 when I was doing my current build years ago and now it's loving up my new build plans.

Where have you seen people mention EVGA might pull step up from us? I'm in the exact same boat as you, I'm after a 3070 but depending on stock availability I was half planning on buying a 2000 series card and just waiting in the step up queue. Any 2000 card I buy will be a wild upgrade over what I currently have so I'd be happy with that in the meantime.

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avantgardener
Sep 16, 2003

SpaceCadetBob posted:

I dont want to wait anymore for a card I might not get for who knows how many months. Guess I'm gonna grab an evga 2070 super off amazon and at least get to play cyberpunk on release since my current rig certainly wont be able to play it.

Ill do step up, and maybe get a card by next xmas so who knows!

I've been sat on a 'preorder' at scan.co.uk that was awaiting picking when I bought it and has been incrementally pushed back for nearly a month now.

I found the checking and waiting was getting to me so I bought a 1660 super for the meantime (as I had RMAd my last card a week before launch - normally I don't buy stuff on launch.)

I will just hold off on rdr2 and control for a few more weeks. Its a lot less stressful than checking the websites all the time for an update.

Also the 1660 has gone up in price slightly on amazon since buying it so hopefully shouldn't lose more than about £20 plus fees when I ebay it.

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