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What I really appreciate about games like Breath of the Wild or some first party Sony games like God of War is that there's no loving bullshit and nickle and diming people with no self-control. Just companies trying to make a really good game instead of wrapping their money extracting machine in a vaguely interesting game.
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Nobody should ever play gacha games because it just encourages them. Doesn’t matter if it’s the most fun, spectacular, greatest game of all time. All gacha and lootbox bullshit should be treated as the unwelcome cancer in the hobby that it is.
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Oct 12, 2020 10:03
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History Comes Inside! posted:All gacha and lootbox bullshit should be treated as the unwelcome cancer in the hobby that it is.  The sooner the EU outlaws all that poo poo, the better.
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Oct 12, 2020 10:12
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Was Genshin Impact the one that gamers protested at a Chinese game expo
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Oct 12, 2020 10:23
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Steve Yun posted:Was Genshin Impact the one that gamers protested at a Chinese game expo twas
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Oct 12, 2020 10:31
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Beating OoK on my second try is definitely going to be my biggest videogame brag for the rest of my life It was such a good fight though, gently caress
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Oct 12, 2020 10:37
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What the hell is the thread title from?
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Oct 12, 2020 11:04
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Luigi Thirty posted:What the hell is the thread title from? resident hamster tei
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Oct 12, 2020 11:10
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Genshin Impact is better than BoTW because the combat is actually fun, you can clear all content with the F2P characters so don't need to engage with the gacha if you don't want to, and it doesn't have awful weapon degradation mechanics.
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Oct 12, 2020 11:13
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The reason it's free is so that people will believe they don't need to engage with the gambling mechanics meanwhile the game somehow makes $100 million in a week.
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Oct 12, 2020 11:19
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The next times someone namedrops FOMO I'll fondly remember everyone defending the Free 2 Play myth.
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Oct 12, 2020 11:21
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Luigi Thirty posted:What the hell is the thread title from? from Tei posted:Is how the world ends. Your PS4 become so loud, pregnant womens spontaneously explode and the baby jump arounds on fire. The molecules are thrown towards each other violently and the whole universe collapse.
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Oct 12, 2020 11:27
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Bad Parenting posted:Genshin Impact is better than BoTW because the combat is actually fun, you can clear all content with the F2P characters so don't need to engage with the gacha if you don't want to, and it doesn't have awful weapon degradation mechanics. Nah, gently caress that game and gently caress all real money gacha mechanics.
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Escobarbarian posted:Beating OoK on my second try is definitely going to be my biggest videogame brag for the rest of my life OoK I think took me longer than any Sekiro fight, and I'm pretty sure Sword Saint took me like 4 hours of retries to beat
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Oct 12, 2020 11:32
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History Comes Inside! posted:Nah, gently caress that game and gently caress all real money gacha mechanics. I've been playing it pretty casually on PC since it came out, got to AR25 and I haven't spent a penny and haven't been tempted to, never felt underpowered or anything. Maybe that will change in the future but right now it's a lot of fun for the cost of nothing
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Oct 12, 2020 11:35
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Bad Parenting posted:I've been playing it pretty casually on PC since it came out, got to AR25 and I haven't spent a penny and haven't been tempted to, never felt underpowered or anything. Maybe that will change in the future but right now it's a lot of fun for the cost of nothing Playing it and encouraging others to play it is free advertising that they’re hoping will end up hooking at least one more person into their lootbox bullshit. “I haven’t spent anything and it’s fun enough” isn’t a valid defence of their lovely product and monetisation schemes.
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Oct 12, 2020 11:38
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History Comes Inside! posted:Nobody should ever play gacha games because it just encourages them. lordfrikk posted:What I really appreciate about games like Breath of the Wild or some first party Sony games like God of War is that there's no loving bullshit and nickle and diming people with no self-control. Just companies trying to make a really good game instead of wrapping their money extracting machine in a vaguely interesting game. Quantum of Phallus posted:
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Bad Parenting posted:I've been playing it pretty casually on PC since it came out, got to AR25 and I haven't spent a penny and haven't been tempted to, never felt underpowered or anything. Maybe that will change in the future but right now it's a lot of fun for the cost of nothing If I like a game like this I tend to do a couple spins of the gacha to like 10 or 20 dollars, just cause I prefer to have paid something.
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Oct 12, 2020 11:51
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John Wick of Dogs posted:If I like a game like this I tend to do a couple spins of the gacha to like 10 or 20 dollars, just cause I prefer to have paid something. lmao owned
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goblin week posted:lmao owned This for real. They didn’t put the game there out of the kindness of their hearts, they want to get people addicted to spending money and rewarding them for it in any way is dumb and bad.
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Oct 12, 2020 12:04
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goblin week posted:lmao owned
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goblin week posted:lmao owned
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Oct 12, 2020 12:12
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I spent £4.49 but I've done all the current content so I've no reason to play it until they add more.
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Oct 12, 2020 12:14
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I had more fun playing it than from the £45 I spent on BotW though.
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Luigi Thirty posted:What the hell is the thread title from? 
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I understand some ppl having an aversion to gacha games and/or gambling in general and but there do exist well designed games with gacha elements that are perfectly viable to play without spending a penny. Final Fantasy Record Keeper for instance is one of those games and over the course of playing it for 6 years I have maybe spent £10 on it and gotten far more enjoyment playing it than the 40 hours and £40 I spent on Final Fantasy XV So when people say Gashin Impact or whatever is fine to play for free, i dont see the problem with that. Personally it doesn't look like my thing cuz its far to anime but that's a different matter entirely
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I'm a bit fed up and i have nothing i really want to play tonight, strongly considering finally starting resi evil 5 or 6
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I'm a bit fed up and i have nothing i really want to play tonight, strongly considering finally starting resi evil 5 or 6 5 is soooo bad, like it's barely fun co-op. 6 is...fine co-op. I've played the entire modern series now and 5 is easily my least favourite.
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fridge corn posted:I understand some ppl having an aversion to gacha games and/or gambling in general and but there do exist well designed games with gacha elements that are perfectly viable to play without spending a penny.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I'm a bit fed up and i have nothing i really want to play tonight, strongly considering finally starting resi evil 5 or 6 I really like 6, but unless you look up a guide you'll have no idea how you're supposed to play it. The tutorial barely teaches you anything, like it shows you how to mix herbs into healing tictacs through the menu but doesn't tell you that you can press the heal and reload buttons at the same time to do the same thing in 1 second. It doesn't tell you how to duck, dodge roll, slide, quick shot to autoaim at multiple enemies, parry, recover stamina faster, etc. RE6 is also fine in single player since your partner has infinite health and ammo. It's not like RE5 where it's miserable because they have all the same responsibilities as an actual player. If you do want to play co-op then players can seamlessly join or leave, you don't have to reach or reload a checkpoint.
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Yeah for everyone in this thread like “Oh I put 30 hours into it without ever spending a penny, it’s not predatory at all” there hundreds of people with the exact opposite problem, they can’t go 5 minutes without getting spun by some gacha mechanic. Congratulations on being indomitable towers of Iron Will, most people can’t pass up a lotto ticket with a discount.
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There's also a fuckload of kids throwing money down the toilet on stuff like that and in the FIFA games. I used to teach kids and it was insane how much they were buying in FIFA.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:There's also a fuckload of kids throwing money down the toilet on stuff like that and in the FIFA games. I used to teach kids and it was insane how much they were buying in FIFA. EA could lose all their other licenses and still profit $750mil a year from FIFA cards. When people are like "lootboxes are such bad publicity, how much money could these publishers actually be making" the answer is "quite a lot."
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Akuma posted:If it was easy for everyone to ignore then it wouldn't exist. The reality is some people cannot ignore it and it does ensnare them. Is your fun worth the loss of those children or adults who are preyed upon? I have every bit of sympathy for people with gambling addictions and there are resources to help these people and they should make use of them where possible. Also good design would have limits to how much individuals could spend for any given period of time. There is space for discussion around these topics and discussion should be encouraged. I do not think the problem lies inherently with the business model of f2p gacha games nor do I think it is inherently predatory but I agree that there should be limits in place to help protect the vulnerable.
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It is 100% predatory that they can sell that stuff to kids. There's no way around it. Kids aren't going to realise they're becoming gambling addicts. It's one of the scummiest things in games.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:It is 100% predatory that they can sell that stuff to kids. There's no way around it. Kids aren't going to realise they're becoming gambling addicts. It's one of the scummiest things in games. What parents are giving their kids access to their card details? I've got a teenage child and there's no way I'd give them access to my payment details on their phone or console or whatever
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