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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

coke posted:

It's interesting that the native Maori language is similar to Hawaii. Also the myth of Maui (the hero) fished up islands of hawaii. And south island of NZ was the boat used by Maui to fish up the big fish that is North Island.

edit:

This is the good stuff and why curricula need way more precolonial history.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Antonymous posted:

Taiwan was the motherland for languages found in Madagascar, New Zealand, Hawaii and Easter Island... and most of the languages in that family are still there





humanity's first space explorers, at least in spirit

In contrast, Spanish galleons circled Hawai’i for two centuries without spotting it.

Generations of mariners spent their lives circling Hawai’i and died ignorant of it.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

If I remember right, the tactic used by the Polynesians was basically to sail against the current, because that way they could use driftwood and stuff to predict landmasses.

other people
Jun 27, 2004
Associate Christ

Antonymous posted:

Taiwan was the motherland for languages found in Madagascar, New Zealand, Hawaii and Easter Island... and most of the languages in that family are still there





humanity's first space explorers, at least in spirit

Taiwan #1 ?

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009


The native people now are like 2% of the population b/c of european and then chinese colonization in the 1600s and live on reservations styled much like the USA's

The natives, who were by no means a unified society really ever in their history, have tribes who won a war against the USA once, and many have defeated the Japanese numerous times

So Taiwan is kinda #1 but also kinda poo poo

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


A successful coffee ad in that it made me laugh out loud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzjUWfhgJwQ

"Don't you have anything else? I only drink flat white*. Or a latte macchiato would be fine too."
"Shut the gently caress up, this is good!"

"Saludo, when good is enough."

*) No idea :shrug:

e: I guess not too successful as I'm not going to buy loving Saludo.

3D Megadoodoo has issued a correction as of 09:36 on Oct 13, 2020

jeebus bob
Nov 4, 2004

Festina lente

3D Megadoodoo posted:

A successful coffee ad in that it made me laugh out loud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzjUWfhgJwQ

"Don't you have anything else? I only drink flat white*. Or a latte macchiato would be fine too."
"Shut the gently caress up, this is good!"

"Saludo, when good is enough."

*) No idea :shrug:

e: I guess not too successful as I'm not going to buy loving Saludo.

PLEEEEEASE transcribe and directly translate what the old lady said. Love it when old people swear.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

coke posted:

It's interesting that the native Maori language is similar to Hawaii. Also the myth of Maui (the hero) fished up islands of hawaii. And south island of NZ was the boat used by Maui to fish up the big fish that is North Island.

If Maui'd worked a bit harder, he could have brought Zealandia back to the surface.

quote:

Zealandia (/ziːˈlændiə/), also known as Te Riu-a-Māui (Māori)[2] or Tasmantis,[3] is an almost entirely submerged mass of continental crust that subsided after breaking away from Gondwanaland 83–79 million years ago





Fun fact - all penguins evolved on Zealandia.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


3D Megadoodoo posted:

A successful coffee ad in that it made me laugh out loud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzjUWfhgJwQ

"Don't you have anything else? I only drink flat white*. Or a latte macchiato would be fine too."
"Shut the gently caress up, this is good!"

"Saludo, when good is enough."

*) No idea :shrug:

e: I guess not too successful as I'm not going to buy loving Saludo.

:eng101: Flat white is espresso with a smallish amount of steamed milk and little or no foam. Quite a few cafes switched "cappucino" out on their menus and brought "flat white" in a few years ago in the game of "starbucks is copying and coopting what we're doing so we need to change faster than they can keep up or we drown", so it certainly has some trendiness implications to it. I'm not sure wtf a "latte macchiato" would be, since latte = drown the espresso in milk and macchiato = espresso with a bit of foam on top. So unless there's something else lost in translation it's generally cafebabble.

To go a bit more critical on it, this ad makes me reflect how independent operators who try new things are besieged by capitalism on both sides, with half of the big corps who pay attention to them just looting their concepts for ideas and mass packaging them, and the other half basically going "you're too pretentious and we sell 'normal'"

This also reminds me of how I've had several people argue to me that franchises are local businesses.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

My wife makes us cappuccino by hand and it owns

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Antonymous posted:

Taiwan was the motherland for languages found in Madagascar, New Zealand, Hawaii and Easter Island... and most of the languages in that family are still there





humanity's first space explorers, at least in spirit

And funny thing is, as far as they can tell it was just one of the Taiwanese aboriginal languages that spread to the rest of Austronesia. The rest stayed on the island.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

3D Megadoodoo posted:

A successful coffee ad in that it made me laugh out loud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzjUWfhgJwQ

"Don't you have anything else? I only drink flat white*. Or a latte macchiato would be fine too."
"Shut the gently caress up, this is good!"

"Saludo, when good is enough."

*) No idea :shrug:

e: I guess not too successful as I'm not going to buy loving Saludo.

I'd be more okay with ads if they were all just like "it's coffee, what the gently caress do you want" tbh.

Not okay to the point that I wouldn't still avoid them, but more okay than I am now.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

The general market price of coffee is below what it costs to produce. Coffee, along with chocolate, is some neocolonial crap. This is why I buy artisinal and ridiculously expensive coffee and sometimes chocolate, where I have some reason to believe that the money I pay actually benefits the farmers. This makes me a wanker, I know.

Fun fact: most coffee farmers don't drink coffee, because that's expensive, so they actually have no idea how it tastes.

Also the chocolate industry has a plan to stop "the worst kind of child labour" (child slaves) by live 2035 or something.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

lol just lol @ the idea of nestle giving up its child slaves

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
I hate kids. I'm going to start melting chocolate into my coffee.

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

BonHair posted:

The general market price of coffee is below what it costs to produce. Coffee, along with chocolate, is some neocolonial crap. This is why I buy artisinal and ridiculously expensive coffee and sometimes chocolate, where I have some reason to believe that the money I pay actually benefits the farmers. This makes me a wanker, I know.

Fun fact: most coffee farmers don't drink coffee, because that's expensive, so they actually have no idea how it tastes.

Also the chocolate industry has a plan to stop "the worst kind of child labour" (child slaves) by live 2035 or something.

i watched a little documentary about chocolate from the bean to the bar and was like 'a snickers should cost $250'

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Marx Was A Lib posted:

lol just lol @ the idea of nestle giving up its child slaves

That's how long term plans to improve non-profit aspects of businesses work.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
If you don't allow the kids to work, then how are they gonna get money to live?

you moron

you imbecile

What we need is more child labour

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


BonHair posted:

The general market price of coffee is below what it costs to produce. Coffee, along with chocolate, is some neocolonial crap. This is why I buy artisinal and ridiculously expensive coffee and sometimes chocolate, where I have some reason to believe that the money I pay actually benefits the farmers. This makes me a wanker, I know.

buy socialist coop coffee instead. rip on the choco though

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
If I want nice coffee I get the zapatista stuff

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Continuity RCP posted:

If I want nice coffee I get the zapatista stuff

it is pretty good

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

bike tory posted:

It was the last major landmass in the world to be settled. Which is also kinda wild considering our nearest major landmass is Australia, which has some of the longest continuous human settlement in the world at like 30,000 years or something. Turns out the Cook Strait in between us is super difficult to traverse in a boat.

Look at this guy mixing up the Cook Strait with the Tasman Sea

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


cock straight

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Zzulu posted:

If you don't allow the kids to work, then how are they gonna get money valuable work experience to live get a promising career?

you moron

you imbecile

What we need is more child labour

Fixed

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

BonHair posted:

The general market price of coffee is below what it costs to produce. Coffee, along with chocolate, is some neocolonial crap. This is why I buy artisinal and ridiculously expensive coffee and sometimes chocolate, where I have some reason to believe that the money I pay actually benefits the farmers. This makes me a wanker, I know.

Fun fact: most coffee farmers don't drink coffee, because that's expensive, so they actually have no idea how it tastes.

Also the chocolate industry has a plan to stop "the worst kind of child labour" (child slaves) by live 2035 or something.

Capitalism hack: want to taste coffee but don’t want it to cost you an arm? Pick coffee beans from scat of the Asian palm civet.

We regret to inform you that this is now called “kopi luwak” and it is the height of culture.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

BonHair posted:

The general market price of coffee is below what it costs to produce. Coffee, along with chocolate, is some neocolonial crap. This is why I buy artisinal and ridiculously expensive coffee and sometimes chocolate, where I have some reason to believe that the money I pay actually benefits the farmers. This makes me a wanker, I know.

Fun fact: most coffee farmers don't drink coffee, because that's expensive, so they actually have no idea how it tastes.

Also the chocolate industry has a plan to stop "the worst kind of child labour" (child slaves) by live 2035 or something.

I have a lib friend who went on a tear like five years ago after he read an article about chocolate. I remember one party where we were making s'mores and he shittily brought out some fair trade chocolate and started talking about what we had as "slave chocolate".

god drat that dude sucked. sucks.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Zzulu posted:

If you don't allow the kids to work, then how are they gonna get money to live?

you moron

you imbecile

What we need is more child labour

Good afternoon mr Gingrich

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Platystemon posted:

Capitalism hack: want to taste coffee but don’t want it to cost you an arm? Pick coffee beans from scat of the Asian palm civet.

We regret to inform you that this is now called “kopi luwak” and it is the height of culture.

Further fun facts: there are two types of kopi luwak: the one where the critter lives in the trees and eats the fruit and shits out beans. This is good coffee essentially because the critter does a good job cleaning the bean. This is also expensive and I have no doubt involves not paying labourers enough.
The other type is the shittiest cheap beans force fed to critters foie gras style. This is sold to tourists at a very high profit I'm sure.

The actual reason the good kind is good is the local soil and the fact that good a good washing of the beans in the area is difficult.

My general point is that coffee should be a luxury item, not something you drink five litres of every day.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

BonHair posted:

Further fun facts: there are two types of kopi luwak: the one where the critter lives in the trees and eats the fruit and shits out beans. This is good coffee essentially because the critter does a good job cleaning the bean. This is also expensive and I have no doubt involves not paying labourers enough.
The other type is the shittiest cheap beans force fed to critters foie gras style. This is sold to tourists at a very high profit I'm sure.

The actual reason the good kind is good is the local soil and the fact that good a good washing of the beans in the area is difficult.

My general point is that coffee should be a luxury item, not something you drink five litres of every day.

I refuse to believe that poop coffee is good by any real metric other than "it's weird and expensive so it must be good"

It's like coffee for audiophiles.

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


BonHair posted:

That's how long term plans to improve non-profit aspects of businesses work.

See also: california's plan to start addressing car emissions in 2035.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Shame Boy posted:

I refuse to believe that poop coffee is good by any real metric other than "it's weird and expensive so it must be good"

It's like coffee for audiophiles.

The coffee wankers I know who've had it say it's nothing special at all, so I'd tend to agree

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Shame Boy posted:

It's like coffee for audiophiles scat fetishists.

Blockade
Oct 22, 2008

Lol if you haven't given up to the point where you would drink cold black coffee from a truck stop and be just fine with it

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

NZAmoeba posted:

Look at this guy mixing up the Cook Strait with the Tasman Sea



it's me, a dumbass. in my defense, Tasman and Cook were both assholes who don't deserve to be remembered accurately

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
just take a caffeine pill and drink water

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
or do the real proletariat energy booster and take methamphetamines

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Kitfox88 posted:

or do the real proletariat energy booster and take methamphetamines

Hitler's favourite pick-me-up? Nice try

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Continuity RCP posted:

Hitler's favourite pick-me-up? Nice try

When you get high alone, you get high with hitler.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

my wife and i drink 7-11 brand coffee

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Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord

Marx Was A Lib posted:

my wife and i drink 7-11 brand coffee

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