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Jonny Shiloh
Mar 7, 2019
You 'orrible little man
https://youtu.be/G0PpmvqaYSU?t=1180

Twerk has a bit of a moan about being "marketed to" and *gasp* "commercialized", then takes aim at Crobbler for being condescending and not understanding the backers.

You have to wonder, where have you been for the last eight years Mike? Chris Roberts clearly feels he doesn't owe you scrubs anything - you're just the suckers providing the money to help him make his dream game, become the Hollywood bigshot he clearly desperately wants to be, and finance his (ex-?)missus's path into the movies, he's not accountable to you in any way and shame on you for calling him out.

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Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"
A scattering of bugs. Now including permanent coffee face.


COFFEE CUP EMBEDDED IN HEAD

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ACTUAL RESULT

Animation for drinking causes hand to get stuck inside head. unable to us mobiglass or open doors because hand is occupied.

quote:

Happened to me drinking from the coffee machine in the 325a, got the coffee cup stuck in head. Workaround is to draw weapon (coffee cup then falls on the ground)




AI SOLDIERS GET UP AND START RUNNING AROUND AFTER DYING

quote:

  • Kill soldiers at outpost
  • After dying, some soldiers stand back up, start running around and shouting
  • After a minute or so, the soldiers would then fall back to the ground


VANGUARD THROTTLE MOVE ORIZONTALLY

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Movement of the throttle handle is form right to left instead of back and fort



STRANGE CHARACTER GLITCH ON ARRIVING AFTER QT TRAVEL

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After a longer travel period just at the end of the jump the character seems to get slapped hard across the face in the pilot seat.

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ACTUAL RESULT

Twice it "seems" like my character died from it. But I'm not sure if it was the effect or something else causing the ship to despawn/destroy at the end of the QT jump. I don't know if they're related at all.


ROC TRIES TO FLIP OVER AFTER SPAWNING, GRINDS SELF INTO GROUND OR EXPLODES

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ACTUAL RESULT

Roc flips over, and either tries to grind itself into the ground, falls through the ground or explodes outright.

Pixelate fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Oct 12, 2020

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
Sound on

https://i.imgur.com/aJHh43z.mp4

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"
Someone revisited the sweaty absolver video...

:reddit: Ask the Devs: Is the physics refactor already in the game, and what is preventing CIG from upping the player count to 200 as told back in 2018?

Chris claimed this:

quote:

the best is what's called sort of a phase batch model, which is you you know, update the physics. And what you do is use every single core you can use, and say you have ten thousand physics objects you distribute them to all these different cores, and they do that simulation, usually in their little islands. That because any objects that would be interacting with each other would be on one core. And so you you blast through that as much as possible, use all the computing power to resolve the physics. Then you do the update of the entities same way, and then you render same way.

So we're moving, we're moving to that model, but that does require refactoring the physics is one of the the last things. And then while we do that, that means that the physics can scale much better because the problem we have on our servers - which have a lot more cores than our clients - is that physics just operates on four cores maximum, so even if you have a server of 32 cores you can't scale. And when we can scale the physics that's when we can really increase the player count on any individual server. And then the final part obviously is a server meshing when we'll be able to, you know...

So I think what will happen is with the object container streaming, and then moving to batch model of physics, we'll be able to get the player count in any one server to at least 200 or so, and then the server meshing will allow us to go quite a bit beyond that in terms of people in areas or instances, in the close place (?). And then, then, then, then, that world becomes truly massive and everyone can sort of exist in the same area and venture around and, and live their virtual life!

quote:

That's on our plan, that's our that's our project plan. I'm just telling you the bits of tech that are going to enable, you know, this seamless universe.


Lando's face at that bolded '200 or so' point. Jesus Christ.





So Chris's physics refactor was added to the game back in December 2019.

They tried pushing the player cap from 50 to 60 in a PTU test in January 2020.

The current player cap is 50...

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Pixelate posted:

Someone revisited the sweaty absolver video...

:reddit: Ask the Devs: Is the physics refactor already in the game, and what is preventing CIG from upping the player count to 200 as told back in 2018?

Chris claimed this:



Lando's face at that bolded '200 or so' point. Jesus Christ.





So Chris's physics refactor was added to the game back in December 2019.

They tried pushing the player cap from 50 to 60 in a PTU test in January 2020.

The current player cap is 50...

Oh is that the video where Lando says that's why he loves Chris so much, because he's never pulling any punches on the hard questions

gently caress lol, wouldn't surprise me to find him working for a Cartel next just selling his soul for a dollar

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao


It's like that lovely episode of DS9 where Kai Opaka gets killed when they crash on some moon in the gamma quadrant where
nanobots kept them alive so they had to fight and die for the rest of eternity even star citizen's bugs are loving Archer'd

reverend crabhands
Feb 3, 2016

Some great bits in this. "Fidelity in remembering". :)

I liked the bit where Mike's missus pops in to give her opinion on the the SC project :

https://twitch.tv/videos/767178937?t=4839s

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

reverend crabhands posted:

Some great bits in this. "Fidelity in remembering". :)

I liked the bit where Mike's missus pops in to give her opinion on the the SC project :

https://twitch.tv/videos/767178937?t=4839s

:allears:

This is some serious :five:

He even playfully tries the "you don't know anything about game development" and she is like "yeah but I do know about business and this isn't how you run a business" lmao

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

reverend crabhands posted:

Some great bits in this. "Fidelity in remembering". :)

I liked the bit where Mike's missus pops in to give her opinion on the the SC project :

https://twitch.tv/videos/767178937?t=4839s

Haha, she's so right that he went full into ironic defensive mode.

nawledgelambo
Nov 8, 2016

Immersion chariot
lol its funny seeing twerk essentially be the goon streamer now



i feel old but wise

nawledgelambo
Nov 8, 2016

Immersion chariot
oh yea that was from like 4 years ago(???)

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Coffee mugs embedded in faces, the dead rising to walk again, reality not quite right, vehicles upending and exploding for no reason... this is some great horror poo poo. The big reveal soon will be that the game is finished and about to be released as Silent Hill 5.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

I may have found a twitch streamer that is even more invested than ol Cliffy, at least in the hardware dept and possibly in the idiot dollars given to CIG as well

https://twitch.tv/nerdshowandtell

Total of 5 PC's in use.

Stream PC = i9-9900K 32gb RAM, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, 2x Elgato 4K Capture Cards, 1x Elgato HD60 Pro, 2x camlink 4k. Total of 7 Cameras Plus 1 Phone Remote Cam

Game PC = i9-10900K 32gb RAM, EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming Card.

Secondary Game PC - i9-9900K, 32gb RAM, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition.

5x Monitor Display powered by a 4th older AMD PC.

Currently using Dual Virpil Sticks with MFG Crosswind Pedals.

15 Displays Total in use. 5x 4k LG Monitors, 3x Samsung 4k TV's, 5x 1080p Samsung Wall Monitor Display.

All this just to stream SC and occasionally other sims to 100~ people

Dogeh
Aug 30, 2017

ShitMeter: -------------|- 99%

reverend crabhands posted:

Some great bits in this. "Fidelity in remembering". :)

I liked the bit where Mike's missus pops in to give her opinion on the the SC project :

https://twitch.tv/videos/767178937?t=4839s

She is right on the money. "Playable concept art" was a good description.
He should listen to her more.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
"He's not Elon Musk, he can't just keep spending millions of dollars"

"He can though, because we keep giving it to him"

"But he's clearly mis-managing it!"

"But nobody cares!"

:prepop:

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Bronze Fonz posted:

Starship or Falcon 9 coming to E:D?

Hes gonna ask for the cars trajectory so he can put it on aa planet as an easter egg

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Zaphod42 posted:

"He's not Elon Musk, he can't just keep spending millions of dollars"

"He can though, because we keep giving it to him"

"But he's clearly mis-managing it!"

"But nobody cares!"

:prepop:

Look, you cannot have your wife's argument be correct on camera!

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


Blue On Blue posted:

I may have found a twitch streamer that is even more invested than ol Cliffy, at least in the hardware dept and possibly in the idiot dollars given to CIG as well

https://twitch.tv/nerdshowandtell

Total of 5 PC's in use.

Stream PC = i9-9900K 32gb RAM, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, 2x Elgato 4K Capture Cards, 1x Elgato HD60 Pro, 2x camlink 4k. Total of 7 Cameras Plus 1 Phone Remote Cam

Game PC = i9-10900K 32gb RAM, EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming Card.

Secondary Game PC - i9-9900K, 32gb RAM, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition.

5x Monitor Display powered by a 4th older AMD PC.

Currently using Dual Virpil Sticks with MFG Crosswind Pedals.

15 Displays Total in use. 5x 4k LG Monitors, 3x Samsung 4k TV's, 5x 1080p Samsung Wall Monitor Display.

All this just to stream SC and occasionally other sims to 100~ people

On the one hand, you're totally right that is an insane setup that inspires some level of revulsion. Even if I could afford to do something that elaborate, I wouldn't want to because at some point it just feels like tasteless excess. On the other hand it makes for a very nice soundstage to stream from and if he had a twitch career it would certainly make the case to any casual viewer that he was a very serious, professional game-player-person. There's a moment at like 3:53 where he shouts "Red Alert" and all his secondary stuff lights up and swaps to some fun imagery- he's also got a fog machine and laser light show. He's put some effort into the presentation, and I can respect that.

On the other-other-hand he clearly doesn't have a twitch career because he's picked the nichest of the nice genres. His most recent video had 10 total views. So what the hell is the point? Does he write all that poo poo off as a business expense?

Sarsapariller fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Oct 13, 2020

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
cig seems to have quietly removed the stickied picture to the roadmap for the sq42 roadmap thread from spectrum

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Sarsapariller posted:

On the one hand, you're totally right that is an insane setup that inspires some level of revulsion. Even if I could afford to do something that elaborate, I wouldn't want to because at some point it just feels like tasteless excess. On the other hand it makes for a very nice soundstage to stream from and if he had a twitch career it would certainly make the case to any casual viewer that he was a very serious, professional game-player-person. There's a moment at like 3:53 where he shouts "Red Alert" and all his secondary stuff lights up and swaps to some fun imagery- he's also got a fog machine and laser light show. He's put some effort into the presentation, and I can respect that.

On the other-other-hand he clearly doesn't have a twitch career because he's picked the nichest of the nice genres. His most recent video had 10 total views. So what the hell is the point? Does he write all that poo poo off as a business expense?

oh ya dude has a seriously envious setup, even if it is a bit like 'but what for'?

i guess like most SC backers he has made it as a captain of industry and just throws wads of cash at retailers for little reason

he seemed like a likeable enough fellow for the 10 seconds i was in stream until i noticed the insane number of monitors he was running

DigitalPenny
Sep 3, 2018

Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

cig seems to have quietly removed the stickied picture to the roadmap for the sq42 roadmap thread from spectrum

Prolly should get some nice shots of the old SQ42 roadmap for prosperity.

MedicineHut
Feb 25, 2016

800peepee51doodoo posted:

It is super fascinating stuff, tbh, but way way way more complex than what I can reasonably dive into at the moment. I do want to turn some knobs and make bleep bloops though so I've been looking at a couple different, much cheaper, standalone synths / midi controllers as a way to get my feet wet instead.


Its kind of amazing how bad a time these streamers have with the game and CIG on a consistent basis and yet just keep going back for more.

It is a mix of good ole sunk cost applied to their streaming work plus the natural barrier of change.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Pixelate posted:

Lando's face at that bolded '200 or so' point. Jesus Christ.



Goddamn, is the only flattering image of Chris when we see the back of his head?

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Inspector Gesicht posted:

Goddamn, is the only flattering image of Chris when we see the back of his head?

Look, body powder, polarised filters, and longer-armed t-shirts cost a whole bunch of money. Where are they supposed to get that from, huh, huh, huh?

Beexoffel
Oct 4, 2015

Herald of the Stimpire

IAbsolveMyself posted:

"I'm pioneering a whole new dnb style called neurocrunk!"

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
If I was given $300 million to make a space shooty game I would hire a bunch of people who know what they are doing and tell them to make it. Then I would just stay in my office and do hookers and blow until it was ready.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

If I was given $300 million to make a space shooty game I would hire a bunch of people who know what they are doing and tell them to make it. Then I would just stay in my office and do hookers and blow until it was ready.

That's the thing, Roberts is sabotaging his own project with his ego. If he'd just get out of the way then maybe they could actually make something, although anybody sane or competent has likely jumped ship by now.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

BigglesSWE posted:

I rolled my eyes pretty hard when Star Trek Discovery name dropped Musk, but it was pretty funny in hindsight after his big “rescuer diver is a pedophile” debacle.

Yeah but the dude who dropped the reference was from the Mirror Universe where maybe Elon Musk is... good?

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

reverend crabhands posted:

Some great bits in this. "Fidelity in remembering". :)

I liked the bit where Mike's missus pops in to give her opinion on the the SC project :

https://twitch.tv/videos/767178937?t=4839s

Emi is the MVP of that long session, dropping straight talk non-stop like a champ. And then what happens? After grousing and ranting about Chris and CIG for half an hour, Twerk pivots 180 degrees in an eye blink and starts spewing defensive nonsense and historical revisionism like his old chump self, totally oblivious to his reversal.

Twerk, Mike, whatever you wanna call yourself, your wife is spot on and you’re dead wrong. She may be “on the periphery” (her words) but she sees plain as day what you only occasionally discern and keep forgetting.

And no, nobody in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 or 2016 bought into the project accepting upfront that delivery dates were meaningless, nor endorsing a blank check and infinite timeline for Chris to futz around to his heart’s content. If that was true then why did everyone — including you — get pissed at no Squadron slice at CitCon 206? Why did everyone get surly over 2017 waiting a year longer than expected for Alpha 3.0? Why is “Answer the Call” just shorthand for more Chris marketing BS? Why are backers pissed about the AMA and the gaming world and gaming press laughing at Chris again?

Emi has it right. And her former supermarket coworkers had it right, too, even as you confuse your proximity to the project as enlightenment rather than desperate rationalizing. The irony is those gathered inside the Temple of Chris are the profane, and those outside of it the discerning and enlightened. It didn’t cost them a cent to see clearly what cost you thousands to miss.

ronmcd
Aug 27, 2017

G0RF posted:

Emi has it right.
She's seen it all before, she's endlessly walking past seeing Mike slumped in the corner, head in hands, ranting at the game he *hates* but can't stop for some reason. He doesn't even really play the game these days, just mines for a while, occasionally gets stream sniped, gives up, watches videos instead.

edit - however ... I've noticed his viewer numbers are actually quite good (for a SC streamer) so there's that. I mean, compared to Saurus. Now there's someone who REALLY hates the game he's hung his hat on.

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars
From refund reddit:

quote:

Somehow my name is offensive.


quote:

I had mine as “shellcompany1” and it got changed, so I changed it to “shellcompany2” and now I’m permanently banned from all their forums.

Truly one big groups of little children

Theotus
Nov 8, 2014

ronmcd posted:

She's seen it all before, she's endlessly walking past seeing Mike slumped in the corner, head in hands, ranting at the game he *hates* but can't stop for some reason. He doesn't even really play the game these days, just mines for a while, occasionally gets stream sniped, gives up, watches videos instead.

edit - however ... I've noticed his viewer numbers are actually quite good (for a SC streamer) so there's that. I mean, compared to Saurus. Now there's someone who REALLY hates the game he's hung his hat on.

He should take her advice and just stream actual game Stellaris.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
And wow, an unexpected Phil Meller sighting. I missed that the first time. (That’s how boring the latest Squadron 42 update was I guess.) He’s been off the shows so long I didn’t even realize he was still there.

The dude looks healthier than he did when he started, in contrast to Erin, who at last sighting looked like a heart attack waiting to happen. Phil’s probably relieved that Nick and Brian have to be Chris’s on-camera human shields for Squadron delays these days.

Hard to believe back in early 2014 Phil and Wingman were talking about the first ten missions releasing by year end... And here we are 6 years later, thrust into the “still early days” and watching Interruption Tech demos with no gameplay in sight and release date unknown.

(Hard to believe unless you’re Twerk, and then it’s easy, since he and his knew all along none of that guidance meant anything, and the longer things take and more money you throw at it the better it all always gets...)

ronmcd posted:

She's seen it all before, she's endlessly walking past seeing Mike slumped in the corner, head in hands, ranting at the game he *hates* but can't stop for some reason. He doesn't even really play the game these days, just mines for a while, occasionally gets stream sniped, gives up, watches videos instead.

:lol: True.

Dude needs to listen to the woman instead of lecturing to her. He and Baron both got married after wasting years and thousands on the Roberts Family Retirement Fund. Life’s given them both the perfect opportunity and excuse to close the book on childish things and start new chapters. Play games you enjoy, save money for more important things, pick up new hobbies... Twerk’s followers are loyal enough, and surly enough at this point, and if he absolutely can’t let SC go yet, he might as well go full Heretic and really start holding Chris’s feet to the fire instead of just talking smack on bad days and then defending it all when others do it...

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
I remember seeing a fictional Star Citizen news show where the actors were arguing over a scandal regarding spaceship construction rivets, if there's a different space president what will happen to this plot as the person ultimately responsible for the rivet purchase will not be not in office when the game is released

Bargearse posted:

Yeah but the dude who dropped the reference was from the Mirror Universe where maybe Elon Musk is... good?

The show also names "Musk Junior High" as where Tilly attended school in season two

Dragonrah
Aug 22, 2003

J.C. Bearington, III

reverend crabhands posted:

Some great bits in this. "Fidelity in remembering". :)

I liked the bit where Mike's missus pops in to give her opinion on the the SC project :

https://twitch.tv/videos/767178937?t=4839s


I half expected him to sit back down after closing the door and go, “Bitches, amirite?” I mean he kind of did in his roundabout ‘joking’ way. He got so upset when that person mentioned sunk cost fallacy. As if still throwing money at the crobber is the only condition that would validate being under sunk cost fallacy.


Also, they don’t sleep in the same bed?

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

Dragonrah posted:

Also, they don’t sleep in the same bed?

Multicrew comes in 3.28

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

Dragonrah posted:

He got so upset when that person mentioned sunk cost fallacy. As if still throwing money at the crobber is the only condition that would validate being under sunk cost fallacy.
Yeah, tying your career to some failed game is probably far worse than simply wasting larger sum on it (unless you literally believe you will live second life inside a game). At least he's playing some other games.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Sarsapariller posted:

On the other-other-hand he clearly doesn't have a twitch career because he's picked the nichest of the nice genres. His most recent video had 10 total views. So what the hell is the point? Does he write all that poo poo off as a business expense?

I know a Wurm Online streamer who streams for his own friends and has more viewers. :lmao:

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"

oh ffs

https://i.imgur.com/o2ufkvj.mp4

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YOUR UNCOOL NIECE
May 6, 2007

Kanga-Rat Murder Society
i have stimpire author questions.

what was the citizen reaction to that? did the writer think any of that was going to be in a video game? why are there ten stimpire's--did any besides the fourth get, uh, ~fleshed~ out?

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