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Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Oh no its not the Barclays brothers is it?

Edit: 215 is the dewey decimal classification for science and religion which is the sort of thing that probably infuriates Richard Dawkins

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Directors listed are Maurice Stimler of Loudwater Trade & Finance, Anthony Page of ??? who founded it, and Voirrey Coole of Knox House Trust. Much PPE.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Powerful Two-Hander posted:

Oh no its not the Barclays brothers is it?

Edit: 215 is the dewey decimal classification for science and religion which is the sort of thing that probably infuriates Richard Dawkins

Nah, they are on Sark in the Channel Islands

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Guavanaut posted:

Directors listed are Maurice Stimler of Loudwater Trade & Finance, Anthony Page of ??? who founded it, and Voirrey Coole of Knox House Trust. Much PPE.

Loudwater trade and finance does actually seem to be a distribution company with existing clients like fashion brands, according to their website anyway. It certainly sounds dubious though .

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

Formerly of MGM (no, not that one).

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/SC449554/officers

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeah, normally you'd make a dba or t/a name to do your face masks, or at least have your existing main business the majority shareholder of the new venture, not set up a new company with two unnamed offshore shareholders.

e: Looks like Stimler was added as a director on 18 June 2020, so the least shady one was a later addition.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Oct 13, 2020

ObamaAkbar.
Apr 7, 2009

DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13



OwlFancier posted:

Like think about your job, do you give a poo poo what you're doing as long as you get paid? They are getting paid to run stories about covid, I don't really see why the media production process should select for things in the public interest. Any more than the movie industry should select for good movies.

If only the BBC was functioning as intended and not as a government mouth piece

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

Loudwater trade and finance does actually seem to be a distribution company with existing clients like fashion brands, according to their website anyway. It certainly sounds dubious though .

I mean even if the contract is awarded on an entirely corrupt basis part of the arrangement is still going to be delivering the PPE, so there has to be an actual procurement company involved at some point.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

So do we know who has shares in PPE Medpro Ltd, or who the directors are, or what.

This is the public information:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12597000/officers

Three appointees, 2 with no other company house information and 1 with multiple (24) directorships etc over the years.

I don't know anything about The Byline Times, but they have an article from last month that basically covers all the publicly-accessible information.

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/09/14/government-awards-122-million-ppe-contract-to-one-month-old-firm/

quote:

Boris Johnson’s Government awarded a whopping £122 million contract for the supply of gowns to a company that had only been in existence for one month, Byline Times can reveal.

New documents show that the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) granted the multi-million-pound contract to PPE Medpro Limited on 25 June, just 44 days after the firm had been incorporated.

The company’s website claims that it is “a specialist manufacturer of personal protective equipment”. However, its founding directors appear to have experience in other fields.

The firm was set up by Anthony Page and Voirrey Coole, both of whom work in fiduciary services – private trust and wealth management.

Both Page and Coole work for Knox House Trust, a corporate wealth and investment management firm that is based on the Isle of Man, which is considered to be an offshore tax haven.

Page is director of the ‘Family Office’, while his company profile claims that he has spent the majority of his career working in the “offshore fiduciary environment”. Coole has 20 years’ experience in this field, including six “in the Yacht Management arena”.

Companies House records show that Medpro is not the only venture launched by the pair in recent months. A separate profile shows that Coole and Page set up a company called ‘Body Icon Limited’ on 2 June this year, though the services to be provided by this firm are not yet apparent.

A week before the DHSC contract was awarded to Medpro, the Knox House employees were joined in their start-up by Maurice Stimler – appointed as a director on 18 June.

Stimler has extensive business experience, with 24 current or lapsed directorships listed on Companies House. One of Stimler’s ventures is Loudwater Trade and Finance, which “sources, distributes and sells branded products around the world”.

It is unclear how the company financed the supply of such a large amount of PPE, given the relative youth of the firm.

PPE Medpro Limited has been approached for comment.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

peanut- posted:

I mean even if the contract is awarded on an entirely corrupt basis part of the arrangement is still going to be delivering the PPE, so there has to be an actual procurement company involved at some point.

Well you might think that but the Brexit ferry company didn't have any ferries and the ports they said they'd use didn't have the depth to take in ferries without serious excavation so no, there really really doesn't.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


peanut- posted:

I genuinely don’t get why this story seems to have gone nowhere. Yes our media is right wing, but even so overt financial corruption stories are usually catnip for them and they will report against anyone.

The only part of the media that ever reports on financial corruption in government is private eye. This isn't really a new thing.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Seems like if someone in the Westminster bubble were to start making noise about this then the press would at least have to pretend to care. What we need is some kind of body within Parliament itself whose role is to keep the Government honest (or at least not too obviously dishonest). We could call it Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition. Nah that's crazy talk.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1315989733022064640

This is the best tweet-length argument against everything that's happened in the last 9 months or so.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Something dreadful has happened to my brain because I had to read that several times before I realised he was actually talking about the actual dead people rather than saying that if the economy dies too hard he can't fix it.

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

peanut- posted:

I mean even if the contract is awarded on an entirely corrupt basis part of the arrangement is still going to be delivering the PPE, so there has to be an actual procurement company involved at some point.

Depends whether the UK is still at the stage of being a _functioning_ kleptocracy or not. If a normal government contract pays 5%, and a corrupt one 10%, simply taking the money and running is a 100% profit margin. And not much more chance of going to jail than regular corruption.

Especially if the companies running the jails are making the same calculation

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Guavanaut posted:

Two private citizens in the Isle of Man, who are not required to declare an interest iirc.
tbh I seriously doubt that they are physically in the Isle of man

I'd genuinely like to see the number of people who claim residence there versus the number of people that are actually on the island itself at any given time

Borrovan fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Oct 13, 2020

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Only one person lives there.

It's not called the Isle of Men is it?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Could be one man and as many women/nb people as you like.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

namesake posted:

Only one person lives there.

It's not called the Isle of Men is it?

Why can only Men 'live' somewhere? Maybe there are 3000 wimmin and it should really have been called the Isle of Wimmin.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Let's see terrible misogynist namesake wriggle his/her way out of this one!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Borrovan posted:

tbh I seriously doubt that they are physically in the Isle of man

I'd genuinely like to see the number of people who claim residence there versus the number of people that are actually on the island itself at any given time
PPE Medpro declared shareholders:



Other persons of interest:

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Failed Imagineer posted:

Let's see terrible misogynist namesake wriggle his/her way out of this one!

*their

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

Guavanaut posted:

and Voirrey Coole of Knox House Trust. Much PPE.


quote:

She has vast experience in both residential and commercial property acquisitions, development and sales, as well as considerable experience managing various other high value assets, including yachts and aircraft.


Well if you know about yacht financing you can handle just about anything imho.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Makes sense, half of that PPE money is going to be used for acquiring property and yachts for the other two.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Lungboy posted:

14 i think, including Douglas Ross.

I'm not entirely surprised to see Ross rebelling on this, Brexiteer or no. His constituency is very heavily centred on farming and fishing.

For future reference: the Barclay brothers live on (and practically own) the Channel Island of Brecqhou, not Sark.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The Barclay brothers live on (and practically own) the Channel Island of Brecqhsit.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

namesake posted:

Only one person lives there.

It's not called the Isle of Men is it?

Isle of No Homo

(literally, they only decriminalised homosexuality in 1992)

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Guavanaut posted:

Two private citizens in the Isle of Man, who are not required to declare an interest iirc.

And a couple other guys.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12597000/officers

Edit: It's worth pointing out that these two Isle of Man guys who founded the company have no other appointments on record so it's not like they just created a new company for this project but already have businesses in the same sector.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Two private citizens, living on the isle of man, getting contracts from the government cos they're not corrupt.

Eararaldor
Jul 30, 2007
Fanboys, ruining gaming since the 1980's

BizarroAzrael posted:

Herman Ze German is shutting down, taking London's best chips with it. I'm honestly a bit heartbroken. Their currywurst was one of my favourite lunches when working in Soho.

NOOOOOOOOOOO

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Edit: It's worth pointing out that these two Isle of Man guys who founded the company have no other appointments on record so it's not like they just created a new company for this project but already have businesses in the same sector.
Stimler, who was brought on board, has businesses in the trade and procurement sectors, if that's what the company is to do, Coole has businesses in the money laundering residential and commercial property acquisitions sector, if it's for that.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

OwlFancier posted:

Two private citizens, living on the isle of man, getting contracts from the government cos they're not corrupt.

It turns out "Voirrey Coole" is this woman: https://knoxhousetrust.com/member/voirrey-coole/

quote:

Voirrey has over 22 years’ experience in the Fiduciary Services industry including significant experience in the Yacht and Aircraft Management arenas.

Ah, so of course she's getting into the PPE game during a pandemic. Nothing to see here.


edit: oh my loving god you can't make this up

https://metro.co.uk/2019/10/16/couple-stopped-airport-security-cat-sneaked-luggage-10932399/

They can't even be trusted with a cat.

Lord of the Llamas fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Oct 13, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Fake news, that cat clearly has a tail.

Eararaldor posted:

NOOOOOOOOOOO
I have never eaten there because their name sounds like a racist 70s sitcom and their logo looks like a cross between a penis and one of Lord Palmerston's turds. Perhaps there's a gap in the marketplace for a fast food sausage and chips restaurant that doesn't make people think Carry On Up the Council.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
I've not really been following this, why are the shadow cabinet abstaining?

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1316011485038964748

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
A mate of mine just travelled to Paris on the Eurostar on an expired passport. Waved right through at St Pancras and only realised when the French plod stopped him in Paris.

So now he's in the bastille and they're dusting off the guillotine as we speak.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

communism bitch posted:

A mate of mine just travelled to Paris on the Eurostar on an expired passport. Waved right through at St Pancras and only realised when the French plod stopped him in Paris.

So now he's in the bastille and they're dusting off the guillotine as we speak.

If they're English, this is simply the justice system working as it should

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


peanut- posted:

I've not really been following this, why are the shadow cabinet abstaining?

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1316011485038964748

Because Keir Starmer is a loving moron

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

peanut- posted:

I've not really been following this, why are the shadow cabinet abstaining?

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1316011485038964748

Why does Starmer's labour do anything?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'm not convinced it does.

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Isn't this the thing that makes pubs close at 10 or something.
That seems like a half measure

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