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T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.


president bfartlett goes online, a Very Special Episode of the west wing

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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Atrocious Joe posted:

He was given a platform because his denunciation of the Soviet Union made his critique of US imperialism acceptable

Parenti has a chapter in Blackshirts and Reds about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51KSe96VCuI

he was initially given a platform for his political views because he was an extremely famous and prominent scientist.

he was allowed to continue airing those political views, in part, because his views dovetailed with anti-communism, but that's not why he rose to prominence

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

Judakel posted:

i'd say liberals and anarchists are extremely mad at virgil, but I don't want to repeat myself

that's because anarchists are liberals tbf

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Its a gigantic stretch to call him anticommunist

He had pretty reasonable criticism of the USSR and specific actors within it throughout history

Even then one of his most commonly refrained points was that its cheap and useless to be singlemindedly critical of a state you can exercise zero influence over (doubly so for an Official Enemy of the US) and that it is always more intellectually honest and useful to criticize the state you are a part of, especially if you nominally have some Democratic input over its functioning

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
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gh0stpinballa posted:

that's because anarchists are liberals tbf

they want communism without first having to pass through socialism, so they're like liberals in the way that they oppose socialism but different in that they actually do believe society ought to be radically transformed.

it's a case of wanting an end without being willing to commit to the means to realize it, ie a form of idealism and utopianism

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

Finicums Wake posted:

they want communism without first having to pass through socialism, so they're like liberals in the way that they oppose socialism but different in that they actually do believe society ought to be radically transformed.

it's a case of wanting an end without being willing to commit to the means to realize it, ie a form of idealism and utopianism

this is it

edit: you did, no worries :)

gh0stpinballa has issued a correction as of 03:55 on Oct 13, 2020

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Anarchists are speed runners, dreamers in the fundamental goodness of our fellows, free of the aristocratic fear of the people, MLs are old men reading older books and demanding dead order in a chaotic, living world

There's a reason horizontalism gets all the sex

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
congrats ya'll. this is no longer the most mentally unwell thread in all of cspam. a new contender has dethroned the king https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3943343&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=7

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

drjuggalo posted:

red scare and cumtown will continue the “class is the only pillar of intersectionality we need to care about” shtick until they embrace all their edgy comedy as true opinion

lmfao

they're always talking about pillars of intersectionality on cum town

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
unironically using the word "chud" in 2020, lol

QUEER FRASIER
May 31, 2011

Atrocious Joe posted:

Chomsky's biggest goof is that he says voting is trivial and only takes a few minutes, but he is willing to argue for hours over it. If it is so trivial, why discuss it for so long?

I don't think I've had a conversation about the electoral choices last longer than 2 minutes, because I just tell Biden people that I don't care enough about the election to continue the conversation
yeah the correct analysis really is that individual votes are next to meaningless and the things you should do with that analysis do not include touring the left media telling people to vote for Biden or starting a podcast about electoralism

Joementum posted:

2016 -> 2020 is about as good a test case as we'll get of Brie's theory that "if we refuse to vote for the democrat they'll be forced to acknowledge our power" and welp

haha yup

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
i'm glad virgil is back to making people get mad at him on Twitter

Joementum posted:

2016 -> 2020 is about as good a test case as we'll get of Brie's theory that "if we refuse to vote for the democrat they'll be forced to acknowledge our power" and welp

in 2016 Bernie bent the knee and campaigned a ton as he is doing now and more Bernie voters voted for Hilary than Hilary voters voted for Obama.

not that I disagree that the Dems wouldn't care because they'd rather lose and keep their doners than win and hand the reins to the left

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
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Gripweed posted:

goddamn the left is doomed.

yeah and

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
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Grevling posted:

lmfao

they're always talking about pillars of intersectionality on cum town

1st pillar gay with dad

2nd pillar african guy voice

3rd pillar molestrios

4th pillar class

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

i have cum town in one ear and an audiobook of the Combahee River Collective's works in the other and they match perfectly

makes u think

Paffgen
Jul 13, 2009

Xaris posted:

congrats ya'll. this is no longer the most mentally unwell thread in all of cspam. a new contender has dethroned the king https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3943343&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=7

I don't want to read that thread, but I found a helpful chart for the people wondering about Red Scare's worldview so maybe that can clear things up over there.

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Paffgen posted:

I don't want to read that thread, but I found a helpful chart for the people wondering about Red Scare's worldview so maybe that can clear things up over there.


i'm many of these, and basically in all quadrants at once. a political savant, really

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Paffgen posted:

I don't want to read that thread, but I found a helpful chart for the people wondering about Red Scare's worldview so maybe that can clear things up over there.


if you think about this, the average is the perfect i n t e r s e c t i o n a l i t y

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
im both Hong Kong protests are CIA and FREE HONG KONG

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Paffgen posted:

I don't want to read that thread, but I found a helpful chart for the people wondering about Red Scare's worldview so maybe that can clear things up over there.


im offended the smokes weed is on the purple side

it's GREEN for a reason

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

If you don't have an even spread in that you're boring.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Paffgen posted:

I don't want to read that thread, but I found a helpful chart for the people wondering about Red Scare's worldview so maybe that can clear things up over there.


how do you perform long division on a bingo card

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I feel like trying to answer that honestly would have too many spaces in the upper left to want to publicly admit

CPFortest
Jun 2, 2009

Did you not pour me out like milk, and curdle me like cheese?
Lmao Virgil stay winning

https://graphtreon.com/creator/badfaithpodcast

Just look at those numbers for October 12th.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

CIA must have cleared the check

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
Both The East is a Podcast and Groundings were great suggestions, thanks.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

bullying olds gets the goods

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

CPFortest posted:

Lmao Virgil stay winning

https://graphtreon.com/creator/badfaithpodcast

Just look at those numbers for October 12th.
drat virgil pwns

i havent listened it but im behind on a lot of podcasts and basically only have tiome for chapo/trueanon/cumtown, and even then I don't really listen to most chapo these days (other than occasionally loading up something like Snowrunner or Satisfactory and banging out several eps at a time)

sometimes ghost stories just because they dont come out that often so its easy to stay up on it. i'm still paying for dick wolff's economic update but I havent listened it to in like 3 months, I might cancel that sub at some point. Likewise Citations Needed doesn't have new ones often (other than garbage news briefs) so that's ok, although their lib-ness is kinda getting a little weary at times.

i want to listen to more of Death is just the Corner, its a good one to fall asleep to. That and Fall of Civilizations.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

gradenko_2000 posted:

I feel like trying to answer that honestly would have too many spaces in the upper left to want to publicly admit

All the red ones, one or two green ones and definitely the upper right YouTube one.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

If we're gonna go on how Virgil totally owned the libs or whatever, include those who were shaking their fists about Virgil betraying the Chapos and how Bad Faith is poo poo lib poison and how the clips made Chomsky look good and Brienne/VT look bad on the owned pile.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Jel Shaker posted:

bullying olds gets the goods

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

gradenko_2000 posted:

I feel like trying to answer that honestly would have too many spaces in the upper left to want to publicly admit
Who doesn't call it the DPRK? Or have a fetish?

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

more like a Barking Dog, woof!

Xaris posted:

congrats ya'll. this is no longer the most mentally unwell thread in all of cspam. a new contender has dethroned the king https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3943343&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=7

i cannot overstate how lucky you all are he didn't choose this thread lol

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

CPFortest posted:

Lmao Virgil stay winning

https://graphtreon.com/creator/badfaithpodcast

Just look at those numbers for October 12th.

he's definitely turned full grift to the point of making GBS threads on half the left to get outrage publicity while telling people to see the full interview behind a paywall if they want to disagree with him, so cooooool

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

crepeface posted:

in 2016 Bernie bent the knee and campaigned a ton as he is doing now and more Bernie voters voted for Hilary than Hilary voters voted for Obama.

not that I disagree that the Dems wouldn't care because they'd rather lose and keep their doners than win and hand the reins to the left

yeah, i agree that bernie voters are not why hillary lost, but a bunch of resistance libs really do think that and it did not make them more inclined to vote for bernie in 2020

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

brian posted:

he's definitely turned full grift to the point of making GBS threads on half the left to get outrage publicity while telling people to see the full interview behind a paywall if they want to disagree with him, so cooooool

buy the book

Joementum posted:

yeah, i agree that bernie voters are not why hillary lost, but a bunch of resistance libs really do think that and it did not make them more inclined to vote for bernie in 2020

not to mention that ignoring the left and going for the olds and the center is very much working for biden. had trump been a competent person that strategy probably doesn't work but i think he's gonna Macron this thing

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

more like a Barking Dog, woof!

brian posted:

he's definitely turned full grift to the point of making GBS threads on half the left to get outrage publicity while telling people to see the full interview behind a paywall if they want to disagree with him, so cooooool

i think that rss feed i linked earlier has the patreons of bad faith so at least no one in this thread has to give him any money if they want to hear it

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

a Loving Dog posted:

i think that rss feed i linked earlier has the patreons of bad faith so at least no one in this thread has to give him any money if they want to hear it

good stuff

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THS
Sep 15, 2017

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