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I liked Marauders, but 2 issues for Wolverine's quest kind of soured this week's releases for me. Hope next week is much more interesting
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i think the two books together were about the same length as the extra long X-Factor or Marauders books and since Benjamin Percy is writing both X-Force and Wolverine they just let him tell the story across both books instead of doing extra long versions of either book
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Oct 8, 2020 00:23
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oh no, wolverine must fight his greatest foe- an even sluttier version of daken.
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Oct 8, 2020 02:28
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:oh no, wolverine must fight his greatest foe- an even sluttier version of daken. Fight should result in a draw because they decide to just go get drunk and act trashy together. (Wolverine is just as much as a hoebag as his kid, let's be honest).
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Oct 8, 2020 02:33
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Having read Wolverine and X-Force, I feel like I could have skipped it without missing much. Beyond Wolverine getting his sword, it mainly introduced his opponent, which I wasn't too impressed by. I suppose he might play a bigger role later on, but who knows. Still trying to decide if I want to get all 22 chapters or try to stick to the important bits and/or the series I've been reading anyway.
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Oct 9, 2020 17:44
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I read Champions #1. It was not very good, but it raised an X-related question. Why isn't Dust on Krakoa? Has this been brought up at all anywhere?
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Oct 9, 2020 18:12
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I mean, it's not like mutants are forced to stay on Krakoa if they don't want to. You can easily make the argument that Dust is a righteous enough person that she feels like she can make a difference in a world that hates and fears her.
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Oct 9, 2020 19:36
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The Wolverine and X-Factor books just felt horribly over-written to me. I don't even know if they were good or bad because they were so goddamn dense and Serious. Marauders was night-and-day to that; it still had a lot of information to get in but it was propulsive and interesting.
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Oct 9, 2020 19:40
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Gologle posted:I mean, it's not like mutants are forced to stay on Krakoa if they don't want to. You can easily make the argument that Dust is a righteous enough person that she feels like she can make a difference in a world that hates and fears her. Plus she's a precog, I thought they didn't get the warmest welcome on the island.
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Oct 9, 2020 23:03
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Plus she's a precog, I thought they didn't get the warmest welcome on the island. Dust is a precog? I'll admit i don't know much about her
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Oct 9, 2020 23:07
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No she just...turns into sand. Maybe Macdeo is thinking of Blindfold?
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Oct 9, 2020 23:10
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Important X of Swords news https://twitter.com/arthurstacy/status/1314650656310005770?s=20
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hexate posted:The info-dumps continually sprinkled throughout the event about the kingdoms of Otherworld makes suspect what Saturnyne's game is. Ten duels, ten kingdoms? Hmm... Man I sure hope it's leading somewhere because I so do not give a poo poo about Otherworld and just reading about its kingdoms is not making me interested in the least.
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Oct 9, 2020 23:28
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I like that the infodump in the Storm issue was about the vampire realm. Could this be the return of BloodStorm?
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Oct 9, 2020 23:32
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Blockhouse posted:Blindfold Oh yeah! She got killed in the lovely Rosenburg run, but did she get brought back? With the whole "no precogs", she may have been put on the bottom depth of whatever queue they got going.
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How Wonderful! posted:I read Champions #1. It was not very good, but it raised an X-related question. Why isn't Dust on Krakoa? Has this been brought up at all anywhere? I'm honestly just waiting for Cyclops to show up and be like "Hey I started out as a teenage hero plus I was in the Champions so I'm giving you all Krakoan immunity. Tell the government to suck it."
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Oct 10, 2020 07:17
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Blockhouse posted:No she just...turns into sand. Yeah sorry,some of The New X-Men kind of blind together for me at times.
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Oct 10, 2020 14:43
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Hi thread, after 2 years or so of reading literally every X-book from the beginning, in exact continuity order, I’m hitting the age of apocalypse which is where I stopped reading the first time around (1995ish). I know that Onslaught stuff is coming and is really regarded to be pee-pee poo-poo, but is there anything good in the 95-00 range worth continuing to read for?
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Transistor Rhythm posted:Hi thread, after 2 years or so of reading literally every X-book from the beginning, in exact continuity order, I’m hitting the age of apocalypse which is where I stopped reading the first time around (1995ish). I know that Onslaught stuff is coming and is really regarded to be pee-pee poo-poo, but is there anything good in the 95-00 range worth continuing to read for? I haven't read it myself but I think X-Man was generally well regarded through most of it's run.
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Oct 11, 2020 18:40
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Personally, I think I'd rather re-read Onslaught than X-Man. Nate Grey is just not a character I ever cared for and though the book ends on an interesting note when Ellis takes over, I'm not sure I'd say it's good, just better than it had been. I also don't much care for Age of Apocalypse so adjust accordingly. I did the whole X-universe read a few years ago, so I don't remember when things happen, but skipping to Morrison is probably fine. Edit: Actually, read Mutant X, or at least give it a try. It's a very strange book that I have a great fondness for.
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Oct 11, 2020 19:42
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Oh, wasn't Gail Simone's Deadpool/Agent X in that period? that's pretty good.
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Transistor Rhythm posted:Hi thread, after 2 years or so of reading literally every X-book from the beginning, in exact continuity order, I’m hitting the age of apocalypse which is where I stopped reading the first time around (1995ish). I know that Onslaught stuff is coming and is really regarded to be pee-pee poo-poo, but is there anything good in the 95-00 range worth continuing to read for? Generation X, probably.
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Generation X was good up until Bachalo left, then it lost a lot of its appeal. I stopped reading comics around the same time and don't think I missed anything important that was X-Men related.
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Transistor Rhythm posted:Hi thread, after 2 years or so of reading literally every X-book from the beginning, in exact continuity order, I’m hitting the age of apocalypse which is where I stopped reading the first time around (1995ish). I know that Onslaught stuff is coming and is really regarded to be pee-pee poo-poo, but is there anything good in the 95-00 range worth continuing to read for? The Joe Kelly and Steve Seagle stuff is an interesting year or so. I really liked the work done with Marrow, and, although it's messy due to editorial, I'd say it's worth a read as it really stood out to me amidst the meandering late-90s stuff. X-Men #70 is the big kick-off issue, I think? And hey, it's got Maggott! I'm a 90s kid and a sucker for teen drama (and a huge fan of Emma Frost - plus, in Gen X it's revealed that she's really good at mini golf?!) so I actually enjoyed Gen X throughout, but I think of a lot of that is I adore how full-on Larry Hama writes stuff when he comes onboard, and Dodson art goes a good way to making stuff better. Metalshark fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Oct 11, 2020 |
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Oct 11, 2020 22:23
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Codependent Poster posted:Generation X was good up until Bachalo left, then it lost a lot of its appeal. I want to get to Gen X eventually but the Marvel app is missing a ton of issues in the middle.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I want to get to Gen X eventually but the Marvel app is missing a ton of issues in the middle. Yeah, it really sucks and is surprising since they've filled in most of the other big X-Men gaps.
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, it really sucks and is surprising since they've filled in most of the other big X-Men gaps. On this recent reread of mine I encountered that X Factor has a really massive gap in the middle that doesn’t seem to have any sort of logic behind why it is missing. There’s also a huge wolverine gap after issue 50.
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Transistor Rhythm posted:doesn’t seem to have any sort of logic behind why it is missing That's Marvel Unlimited for you! *furrows my brow as to why 5 random issues of 80s Dr. Strange books were released*
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Oct 13, 2020 16:48
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This reminds me of something I’ve wondered for a while - how are the master copies of all of these comics stored? Is there a vault somewhere of them on flat master prints or something? When were these scanned? Etc
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Transistor Rhythm posted:This reminds me of something I’ve wondered for a while - how are the master copies of all of these comics stored? Is there a vault somewhere of them on flat master prints or something? When were these scanned? Etc The older stuff they don't have the original art (the penciler and inker would take turns keeping the original art to sell at conventions and poo poo, except Steve Ditko who used his as cutting boards). When Marvel put out 40 years of [Avengers/Spider-Man/Fantastic Four] comics on DVD back in 2003 the quality of some of the scans makes me think either their storage system wasn't great or they were flat out missing some issues and had to ask fan collectors to borrow their copy.
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Oct 13, 2020 17:57
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The revelations from the Kirby lawsuits regarding his original art indicated that Marvel was... not great at storing original art. (Original art that they considered theirs, despite both contracts and long-held industry policies that had them as property of the artist.) I'm very much doubting much of the old MU stuff is being digitized from anything but the best copies they can find. Obviously modern stuff is digitized prior to publishing, but the older stuff I think would have to be cleaned-up scans from actual comics copies; or any touched up pieces they've done recently.
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Oct 13, 2020 18:54
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Remembering when Dan Slott was one of the guys in charge of the Marvel comic closet and he lied his way into a position.
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Oct 13, 2020 19:21
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Gologle posted:Remembering when Dan Slott was one of the guys in charge of the Marvel comic closet and he lied his way into a position. what is this?
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Soonmot posted:what is this?
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Oct 13, 2020 22:39
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Imo that is absolutely not a damning story about Dan Slott.
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It wasn't meant to be, I was reminded of it because we were talking about old comics and their storage. Dan Slott's primary role when he was an intern, IIRC, was sorting through and categorizing their catalog.
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Oct 14, 2020 00:32
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I'm curious when exactly he was an intern, I can't find a solid date off-hand. If he published his first MCP stories or the random back-up strips while doing the internship I wonder how often that happened. I've seen him mention handling the letter bag for Barbie which launched in 1991, and it looks like his first published Marvel credits were in July of that year.
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Well reading between the lines, he tweeted in August 2019 "29 years ago, I lied to get into the Marvel College Intern program. (I'd already graduated college.) From then on, all the way up to now, every intern applying for a spot has to fill out tons of forms to prove they're still actively in school. That's because of me. I did that." So that would presumably make it either a summer 1990 internship or a 1990-1991 school year internship. He goes into a bit more detail in this 2012 interview about the changeover: quote:I had a sister who was getting married, so I came to New York, I knew I was going to be in Manhattan and I set up an interview through the college internship program. I just filled out all the forms, did everything I was supposed to and I was there all of five minutes and one of the questions they asked was “What college do you go to?” I said “Well, I just graduated from…” and they said “We can’t use you. We give you college credit. We don’t pay you, and if we can’t give you college credit, it’s slave labor, we’re not doing that. Thank you, but goodbye.” And I was kicked right out. And luckily I have a twin sister who got married six months later, and I had to come back to Manhattan. And I knew they weren’t going to remember me from five minutes, so I had a college professor write me this form for a post-graduate credit. When they asked me what college I went to, I lied and I just said I was still in college. And then I was the intern who didn’t leave. [laughter] Most guys usually do a month or two months; I was on month three. And I wasn’t getting paid, I was living on money I was getting from Kinkos at night, and things were getting kind of iffy when someone came up to me and said “You know, we have this staff job we’d like to give you, but you have to go back to college.” I went “I LIED!”, and they gave me the job. Various places say he was working under editor Fabian Nicieza as an intern, which doesn't help in pinpointing anything because he was working as an editor up through 1994 it looks like. The period where he was in charge of "the art closet" was after he'd become a staffer I assume, mostly because Slott describes it as in a period after the internship, but also because the most detailed story I can find about it is him discussing having to contact Steve Ditko to give him the original art back from Squirrel Girl's first appearance, which didn't even come out until November 1991. So yeah, all of this lines up to him having transitioned to being an actual employee by the beginning of 1991, between the above Ditko story and Barbie launching at the very end of 1990. The earliest published writing I can find by him is a Speedball back-up in New Warriors Annual #1 the last issue of Marvel's short-lived Mighty Mouse comic, both released on the same day, May 14 1991, the former primarily written by Fabian Nicieza, the latter edited by him. To make this broader than "deep dive into Dan Slott's early career", if all of this sounds incestuous with interns becoming editors becoming self-dealing writers, it's because it is, and this was pretty standard operating procedure for the comic industry all the way up to the early 2000s. While it in no way excuses breaking company policy (and it definitely loving doesn't excuse virtual yellowface), the idea that twenty years later then-new Marvel editor would be vexed by the idea that he was no longer allowed to pitch for freelance writing gigs while employed as an editor is pretty understandable, considering that was how probably half of the editors and writers above him that he worked with every day got to the positions they held then.
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My friend did something similar to get into radio.
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