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peanut- posted:I've not really been following this, why are the shadow cabinet abstaining? Jeremy Crowbin has no authority over the PLP and should resign to make way for a leader who has their trust and respect.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Jeremy Crowbin has no authority over the PLP and should resign to make way for a leader who has their trust and respect. Catte.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Jeremy Crowbin has no authority over the PLP and should resign to make way for a leader who has their trust and respect. Outrageous anti-semitism from Keith, trying to tell Jewish Shadow Cabinet members how to vote
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namesake posted:Only one person lives there. Chuck Tingle presents the Isle of Men Don't even need new cover art, the flag will do
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Communist Thoughts posted:Isn't this the thing that makes pubs close at 10 or something. It's like a one-fourteenth measure
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imagine whipping to abstain* "the only tolerable opinion on this matter is no opinion at all!!!" *not to be confused with abstinence via whipping 
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A preview of Starmers next speech
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He's apparently holding a press conference now if you need you fix of beige.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Chuck Tingle presents the Isle of Men
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Holy poo poo, he's actually doing a thing. I didn't think he had it in him.
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I've had a pretty unproductive day of working from home, so I'm going to make myself feel better about it by watching the archetype of ambivalence himself for a bit Awwyeah red on bright pink, this is what I bought an ambilight TV for
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sebzilla posted:Holy poo poo, he's actually doing a thing. Is that thing "talk about how the government should do a thing"?
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EvilHawk posted:Is that thing "talk about how the government should do a thing"? https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1316050690733740035?s=20
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laura must be super salty that allegra stratton got the press sec gig https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1316048733306486788
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So is he proposing a 17ish-day closure of pubs offices and schools or is it more weak poo poo
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Gort posted:So is he proposing a 17ish-day closure of pubs offices and schools or is it more weak poo poo pubs, restaurants and schools and onyl essential offices he's claiming
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Isle of No Homo The 'I Love Man', they should lean into to it as a seething hotbed of gay holidays
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EvilHawk posted:Is that thing "talk about how the government should do a thing"? For Kieth that's loving impressive
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lol education PPS has resigned https://twitter.com/CGreenUK/status/1316056810235797504?s=20
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If I were in charge I'd go on TV and dance all day to keep people indoors It probably wouldn't work
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guess who askewd this question about sacrificing people on the altar of number https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/1316055147697573888?s=20
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Jose posted:lol education PPS has resigned lmao this is my MP and he's a snivelling coward who blocks constituents that disagree with him on twitter.
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OwlFancier posted:Another lockdown isn't going to achieve anything unless you actually implement a long term solution, we're gonna be right back at this point in a couple of months. I think the theory is that test and trace gets fixed during the lockdown. Which, y'know, good luck, but I actually think this is, finally, a good call. It's just we should have been doing it (and Labour calling for it) weeks ago rather than, y'know, Kier actually insisting the government act faster in getting kids back into schools and firing the shadow education secretary who was too 'pro-union' for saying 'hmm hang on this doesn't seem like a great idea'.
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I mean yes it's better than collapsing the NHS but I would be very surprised if he follows through rather than just saying he supports the government's doling out of another hundred squillion pounds on nonexistent solutions. Captain hindsight is entirely accurate.
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Yes it's very bold decision to close schools at half-term.
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Szmitten posted:Yes it's very bold decision to close schools at half-term. it makes it a lot more palatable to everyone
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OwlFancier posted:Another lockdown isn't going to achieve anything unless you actually implement a long term solution, we're gonna be right back at this point in a couple of months. Delay is literally all you can do unless a vaccine emerges though. Delay via effective track, trace and isolate would be far preferable, but if the government can't achieve that then I'll take delay via repeated lockdown.
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it's less than 24 hours since Johnson announced the three-tier system... probably the view from inside LOTO is that Johnson is likely to face a ferocious backbench rebellion from anti-lockdown Tories and that sharpening this divide can only help, even if it means Starmer has to make good on his pledge to support whatever lockdown measures the government proposes. Just two weeks ago there was widespread speculation that Labour could support anti-lockdown amendments to limit the Coronavirus Act ronya fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Oct 13, 2020 |
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This is a good call from Keir. It's also an incredibly, incredibly safe call, considering he's backed by the majority of the public, almost all his party, literally every scientist including the government's own SAGE, and probably some of the Tory party. He also knows that if a national lockdown happens (very likely) he can take credit and blame the government for thousands of deaths and huge economic damage for not doing it sooner, and if it doesn't happen he can blame the government for TENS of thousands of deaths and huge economic damage anyway. It even offers him cover for supporting the government, since if you back the most stringent measures it's a no-brainer that you'd also back everything up to those measures because it's better than nothing. It's doing the right thing at a moment that requires near zero political courage, which is Starmer's favourite time to do the right thing. ronya posted:it's less than 24 hours since Johnson announced the three-tier system... Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3, and Teir Starmer. jabby fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Oct 13, 2020 |
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I'm glad that Starmer has finally taken a stand on something but is he going to follow this up? If he just gives one speech calling for it and then waits until external virus pressures force the government to capitulate while reminding people of the one speech he did then he loses any sort of momentum or prestige he could get from it, I think what happens now will really show if he's got any political talent at all.jabby posted:This is a good call from Keir. It's also an incredibly, incredibly safe call, considering he's backed by the majority of the public, almost all his party, literally every scientist including the government's own SAGE, and probably some of the Tory party. Yeah I guess he really is still just playing it safe. So probably nothing else to come from Labour over it then, which is not good!
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If I was boris I would just do whatever I wanted and then wait for starmer to vote for it anyway. Maybe think up some super lovely legislation like even bigger fines and get labour to vote for it.
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jabby posted:Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3, and Teir Starmer. so that's what the S in S-tier stands for 
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NoneMoreNegative posted:The 'I Love Man', they should lean into to it as a seething hotbed of gay holidays The Isle of Wight already beat them to the joke.
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I wonder if Starmer would have had the balls to demand a lockdown if SAGE and Whitty hadn't already planted the seed of Boris ignoring advice. It's an easy opportunity to jump on.
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I'm not really sure he isn't just being arbitrarily contradictory occasionally. He hated lockdowns not so long ago. He was the one so keen to get the kids back to the plague factories regardless of what "the science" or "the teachers" or "his own education secretary" said.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm not really sure he isn't just being arbitrarily contradictory occasionally. He hated lockdowns not so long ago. Oh poo poo it's the strategy that Chuka used against Corbyn lol.
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peanut- posted:I've not really been following this, why are the shadow cabinet abstaining? Periodic reminder that this utter loving weapon kept Glenda Jackson in his basement for months on end with no human company while occasionally sending his 11 year old son downstairs to yell “are you still alive” and, I poo poo you not, “happy birthday” through her letterbox. There was an interview with her about her new play and it was heartbreaking.
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stev posted:I wonder if Starmer would have had the balls to demand a lockdown if SAGE and Whitty hadn't already planted the seed of Boris ignoring advice. It's an easy opportunity to jump on. 100% no, he's a huge coward with no ideas of his own.
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