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frogbs posted:Man, this really bums me out, but I don't think I can deal with a phone that big. Does Apple generally release sensor size info, or am I going to have to wait for reviews? They said so in the presentation itself.
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Can I still use my old Qi and lighting chargers on the 12 Pro Max? Probably eh?
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Housh posted:Can I still use my old Qi and lighting chargers on the 12 Pro Max? Probably eh? Yep
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 So if I'm reading this right I can trade in my current ATT iPhone XS and get the 12 for free or drat near it?
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Oct 13, 2020 19:39
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Zero One posted:Pro camera specs (differences noted) what does this wording mean for stupid people? Does it not actually have four times the magnification of the standard shooter?
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Mister Facetious posted:what does this wording mean for stupid people? Does it not actually have four times the magnification of the standard shooter? The phone has three lenses with different zoom levels. One 2x zoom. One "normal". And one 2x wide.
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Oct 13, 2020 19:44
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Y'know what's great. The MagSafe charger comes with no power brick. It's a USB-C cable. My only one USB-C charger is an Anker one that sits at my desk. Thanks Apple really good.
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Oct 13, 2020 19:45
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Martytoof posted:Seriously. I tried to unlock my iPad in bed last night but because of the way the iPad is angled the camera is staring at my chest so I have to contort to get it to see my face. And that’s if it doesn’t think the camera is covered by my arm, which it usually is because I’m reaching for the iPad. Add to that that iPadOS doesn’t want to let me tap the face icon to bring up passcode while it’s showing the “camera is covered” dialog and I’m like “fine I guess I just won’t unlock and wait until tomorrow morning” on the reg. it's most frustrating to me when I'm trying to check my bank account or something and have to open up Last Pass and can't unlock with face ID so I have to type in my super long passcode and inevitably gently caress it up a couple times whereas on my 6 year old ipad air 2 It Just Works
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Zero One posted:Optical zoom is zooming using the lens and is a better quality zoom. I didn't ask about digital zoom, I want to know if the "2x optical zoom in" wording is relative to the main camera, and therefore only a 2x zoom.
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Oct 13, 2020 19:47
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SeANMcBAY posted:They said so in the presentation itself. Yeah I know they said "47% larger" but I was looking for info on the actual sizes of the sensors. Also, anyone else on the iPhone Upgrade Program tried to check their eligibility today? I had trouble logging in, makes me think the system is getting hammered, even though the new phones aren't available yet.
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Mister Facetious posted:I didn't ask about digital zoom, I want to know if the "2x optical zoom in" wording is relative to the main camera, and therefore only a 2x zoom. e: all that is to say, no change at all from iPhone 11 Pro
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Oct 13, 2020 19:50
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frogbs posted:Yeah I know they said "47% larger" but I was looking for info on the actual sizes of the sensors. It's a 1.6F vs a 1.8F sensor.
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Oct 13, 2020 19:50
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ratbert90 posted:It's a 1.6F vs a 1.8F sensor.
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Puppy Galaxy posted:touch ID is just better technology all around. for example it works first thing in the morning i feel like im the only person on earth who had super inconsistent results with touchID but i agree it should be an additional option now that my face can't open my phone
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fourwood posted:Yeah, so there’s a 2x zoom beyond the normal camera, and then the “0.5x” zoom ultrawide camera. So the 2x zoom is zoomed in 4 times compared to the 0.5x for a 4x total zoom range across all cameras. (0.5 * 4 = 2, going from 0.5x zoom to 2x zoom). meh. 12 it is then.
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lol. https://www.macrumors.com/2020/10/13/iphone-12-instant-discount-att-verizon/
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Am I bad person for primarily wanting to change in my 11 Pro for a 12 Pro because of that sleek rear end stainless steel banding? With the new shape, I wonder if it is less slippery or sits on a surface better than the 11P now. I highly doubt it since they design these things to hover and float around. Probably going to use my IUP option to get a 128 or 256 Pro, really conflicted on color. They all look amazing.
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Mister Facetious posted:I didn't ask about digital zoom, I want to know if the "2x optical zoom in" wording is relative to the main camera, and therefore only a 2x zoom. Please see my edit.
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glassyalabolas posted:lol. What the gently caress. Why. Hopefully T-Mobile offers something to make up for this bullshit.
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fourwood posted:That’s the lens, not the sensor. We’re going to have to wait for ifixit to do a tear down because I don’t think apple ever gives out specs like that. I mean they don’t even tell you how much RAM is in their things.
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TraderStav posted:Am I bad person for primarily wanting to change in my 11 Pro for a 12 Pro because of that sleek rear end stainless steel banding? With the new shape, I wonder if it is less slippery or sits on a surface better than the 11P now. I highly doubt it since they design these things to hover and float around. I want a 12 because of the magnetic wallet. My wallet is already a small leather thing the size of a card and thin enough that it only holds like 2-3 cards and I always set my phone on top of it cause my phone is caseless. It’s like they read my mind.
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Jose Oquendo posted:
Yeah I saw this and looks awesome. Instructions say to buy through apple, then do a trade-in via ATT. But when I look my XS Max value up on ATT's trade-in tool, it says it's worth up to $330. I'm guessing the "up to $800" means if you trade in a max storage 11 Max? e: iPhone 11 Pro Max seems to be worth only $580 on ATT's trade-in tool. Maybe there's a higher value through this program? e2: ATT's trade-in tool asks for an optional promo code at the end. I wonder if ATT gives you one after you activate the new phone? Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Oct 13, 2020 |
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Oct 13, 2020 20:14
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Boris Galerkin posted:I want a 12 because of the magnetic wallet. My wallet is already a small leather thing the size of a card and thin enough that it only holds like 2-3 cards and I always set my phone on top of it cause my phone is caseless. It’s like they read my mind. I'm not sure I feel the wallet, but will reserve judgment as it comes out. I am digging the magsafe idea and how it'll also work for carplay (non-wireless). I love going caseless so am perpetually trying to get back to the iPhone 4/5 design that was perfect for it. But with the bump and glass back, I don't think we'll ever get to a solution where the phone doesn't float around.
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TraderStav posted:Am I bad person for primarily wanting to change in my 11 Pro for a 12 Pro because of that sleek rear end stainless steel banding? With the new shape, I wonder if it is less slippery or sits on a surface better than the 11P now. I highly doubt it since they design these things to hover and float around. If the weight difference from the 11pro to the 12pro is significant I might do my AUP trade in based on that alone.
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ratbert90 posted:Lol at the cable being lightning to C instead of lightning to A. Agreed 100% actually. I have plenty of spare USB-A wall adapters, not USB-C wall adapters. Guess I'm making another purchase of wall adapters off Amazon. Boris Galerkin posted:I want a 12 because of the magnetic wallet. My wallet is already a small leather thing the size of a card and thin enough that it only holds like 2-3 cards and I always set my phone on top of it cause my phone is caseless. It’s like they read my mind. Excited about the wallet too, the sticky style wallets seem dumb but MagSafe wallets seem like the way to go.
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Matt Zerella posted:If the weight difference from the 11pro to the 12pro is significant I might do my AUP trade in based on that alone. Is it lighter or heavier than the 11P?
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TraderStav posted:Is it lighter or heavier than the 11P? I believe it's lighter.
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TraderStav posted:I'm not sure I feel the wallet, but will reserve judgment as it comes out. I am digging the magsafe idea and how it'll also work for carplay (non-wireless). I love going caseless so am perpetually trying to get back to the iPhone 4/5 design that was perfect for it. But with the bump and glass back, I don't think we'll ever get to a solution where the phone doesn't float around. I like the wallet but i'm going to SUE Apple when my fridge magnet wallet FALLS OFF and I lose my FREE CHALUPA loyalty card.
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Zero One posted:Please see my edit. Yeah I got it, the "4x range" is all three lenses combined. meh :-\
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So what’s the difference between Apple’s ProRAW camera vs using an app like Halide which also shoots RAW? Asking cause it seems like the 12 doesn’t get this feature, only the 12 Pro.
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Have they said anything about how the apple upgrade plan works with the delay on the 12? If you got the 11 at release you will have made 13 payments when the 12 comes out, or 14 for pro max and mini. Are the 13th and 14th payments refunded or put towards the cost of the new phone, or are you just out those payments?
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flipoff posted:Have they said anything about how the apple upgrade plan works with the delay on the 12? If you got the 11 at release you will have made 13 payments when the 12 comes out, or 14 for pro max and mini. Are the 13th and 14th payments refunded or put towards the cost of the new phone, or are you just out those payments? My understanding is that you're out those payments as the AUP makes the remaining obligation $0 and you simply turn in your device and pick up a new 24 month obligation. The hurdle to clear for the no hassle turn in is 12 payments. So, can I make my 12th payment early and qualify? I have 11 in and it's going to pull on the 26th. Not sure what date they said the Pros go up for preorder.
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flipoff posted:Have they said anything about how the apple upgrade plan works with the delay on the 12? If you got the 11 at release you will have made 13 payments when the 12 comes out, or 14 for pro max and mini. Are the 13th and 14th payments refunded or put towards the cost of the new phone, or are you just out those payments? Search your heart for the answer to this
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Matt Zerella posted:FaceID is great and it’s no worse privacy wise than turning over your fingerprints. It’s not so much the biometric data going anywhere as much as it is the normalization of facial recognition technology, an invention that in my opinion as a tech enthusiast of 30-something years is bad and needs to be restricted. A Touch ID phone like the SE is still better for me, a person who will never enable Face ID. I’d just like the power button sensor so eventually someday I can use a phone with Face ID and opt out of using it without enormous hassles.
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ijyt posted:Y'know what's great. The MagSafe charger comes with no power brick. It's a USB-C cable. My only one USB-C charger is an Anker one that sits at my desk.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Yeah I saw this and looks awesome. Instructions say to buy through apple, then do a trade-in via ATT. But when I look my XS Max value up on ATT's trade-in tool, it says it's worth up to $330. I'm guessing the "up to $800" means if you trade in a max storage 11 Max? I think you're right. This has to be some sort of promotional trade in value. How they apply it to your account is a mystery. ATT's website doesn't have any information on the 12 yet. I might check the site tomorrow to see if there's any more information. Jose Oquendo fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Oct 13, 2020 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:So what’s the difference between Apple’s ProRAW camera vs using an app like Halide which also shoots RAW? Asking cause it seems like the 12 doesn’t get this feature, only the 12 Pro. If I understood correctly, ProRAW pictures actually look like the touched up pictures taken with non-RAW shooting by default, but preserve the RAW data so you can also edit it effectively after the fact. It's intended to be a "best of both worlds" solution.
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Jose Oquendo posted:I think you're right. This has to be some sort of promotional trade in value. How they apply it to your account is a mystery. From the instructions. I am dumb. quote:How do I get it? So yeah, after you order/activate, sounds like you get an email from ATT with a trade-in promo code. And it's weird, you can get "up to" $800 if you're buying the 12 Pro, but only up to $700 if you're buying the 12 Pro Max. My wife has an 8 Max and I have an XS Max. I wonder if they're worth the same amount through this program. Bummer they don't provide more details.
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