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Foxtrot_13 posted:Do Lamy nibs have a variability to them or need to be broken in? Lamy QC is, put politely, highly variable. I would expect any random Lamy nib (at least, on their entry stuff) to need tuning to write well.
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Well poo poo, I got lucky then. Got an Alstar when Barnes and noble was selling them off for $5 and it writes so well its become my daily.
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Oct 9, 2020 23:02
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On the whole Lamy nibs are a step above most, where even the worst ones still write just fine, but you might get an amazing nib and get another and have it be a little fussier.
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Oct 10, 2020 01:55
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I bought a TWSB Eco B and filled it with iroshizuku murasaki-shikibu and to be honest it feels a bit dry and the ink is rather light. Try again with a smaller nib or did I get unlucky? I would expect a B nib to be way more wet to be honest.
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Oct 10, 2020 20:58
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Kaweco AL Sport with purble ink sat in my work bag for almost 6 months, popped it open tonight to rescue/maintain it and it writes just fine. I've been real impressed with this little guy so far.
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Oct 11, 2020 06:03
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Heath posted:That was me, and I still haven't received my pens lol And just like that, they arrived today. I've only tried the PIG so far, and if I'm being truthful it writes like poo poo, but I didn't clean it before I filled it either and it's a super fine writer, so it probably needs it. Will report back after a clean. I also got an Elite with the plastic body.
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Oct 11, 2020 09:20
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Keetron posted:I bought a TWSB Eco B and filled it with iroshizuku murasaki-shikibu and to be honest it feels a bit dry and the ink is rather light. Try again with a smaller nib or did I get unlucky? I would expect a B nib to be way more wet to be honest. might just need a cleaning, get them tines used to moving liquid, maybe some gentle shakes--like you would a baby--or some gentle taps against a hard surface--like you wouldn't a baby. anyway you probably know what you're doing and i've no experience with the TWSBIs but i do with iroshizuku and that does not seem like normal behavior for the ink.
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Oct 11, 2020 10:48
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FFT posted:might just need a cleaning, get them tines used to moving liquid, maybe some gentle shakes--like you would a baby--or some gentle taps against a hard surface--like you wouldn't a baby. Thank you, seems I will just write this fill empty or if it annoys me too much try a different ink. I was just hoping for a deep purple but maybe the ink itself is light. Not that it is not pretty, I was just hoping for a deeper tone. I'll also try the ink in a different pen, it is rather friendly to handle. Also possible I am just going to fast, it takes me something like 20 minutes to fill a page with this:  Here you can also see a bit more what I mean with dry and light. Oh, it can also be the paper, it is an Illo sketchbook and there is variation per sheet of paper how it behaves. It seems the books I bought were part of a batch that had troubles with paper but most pages are fine. As I said, I will try a few pages to make sure it is not the paper and empty the pen and can also try on other paper, it is gonna be fine. For drawing lately I mostly use Platinum Carbon Black so it could also be I am just not used anymore to lighter colors? Conclusion: I am actually having a lot of fun.
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Oct 11, 2020 16:13
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I have a pen inked w/ murasaki in front of me now and can confirm it isn't the world's most eye-searingly vivid looking purple color. I still think it rules and you might just try getting used to it. If you can't, I would say try noodler's north african violet, it's maybe a slight bit more blueish but very similar in hue, more saturated, a little darker, and doesn't give quite as much shading. Gotta remember too that the same ink can look and handle a lot different coming from different pens. With this pen, which has a big-ish nib, it puts out just the right amount of the murasaki, not dry at all but not too wet, so it looks vivid enough and has good shading. But I also tried it with a pen with an EF nib and found the color to be way too light, so I continue to use the Noodler's with that pen.
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Oct 11, 2020 19:34
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Murasaki also seemed pretty light to me out of my EF metro. It grew on me, though.
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Oct 11, 2020 20:28
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Cool, that is great info. I like it enough not to let it gather dust and it is likely to get finished some day in 2021, 15ml is not a lot of ink.
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Oct 11, 2020 21:11
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Thinking of asking for a high-capacity demonstrator for Xmas, and I've had my eye on TWSBIs for a while - any thoughts on the Eco vs the 580 Mini vs the Vac Mini? I feel like the full-size 580 or Vac are going to be too long and/or awkward when posted, which is how I prefer to write. I read that the Vac mini might be harder to disassemble and clean than other types of filling mechanism, which could be an issue given that I don't know a thing about properly cleaning a pen. Alternative option: are any of the cheapo Ebay Chinese knockoffs of TWSBI worth considering instead?
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Oct 14, 2020 09:31
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Surprise T Rex posted:Thinking of asking for a high-capacity demonstrator for Xmas, and I've had my eye on TWSBIs for a while - any thoughts on the Eco vs the 580 Mini vs the Vac Mini? I don't know enough to answer your question directly, but 1) yes the full size Vac is awkward when posted and 2) you might also want to look into the Chinese knockoff Pilot Custom 823, if not the Pilot itself.
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Oct 14, 2020 09:54
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I have a 580 and it is nice unposted. I did not like the Eco I got, it feels flimsy.
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Oct 14, 2020 09:59
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What's the name of the knock off 823?
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Oct 14, 2020 10:01
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Surprise T Rex posted:Thinking of asking for a high-capacity demonstrator for Xmas, and I've had my eye on TWSBIs for a while - any thoughts on the Eco vs the 580 Mini vs the Vac Mini? Have you considered the (clear) Moonman M2?
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Oct 14, 2020 12:01
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gschmidl posted:Have you considered the (clear) Moonman M2? I had not, but after having a quick look I think I want one with a piston/vac fill mechanism rather than an eyedropper.
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Oct 14, 2020 12:13
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Sankis posted:What's the name of the knock off 823? Wing Sung 699.
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Oct 14, 2020 12:31
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Surprise T Rex posted:I had not, but after having a quick look I think I want one with a piston/vac fill mechanism rather than an eyedropper. I got this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000148690882.html So far (3 months in) it has not ex- or imploded (or leaked).
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Oct 14, 2020 13:14
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Surprise T Rex posted:I feel like the full-size 580 or Vac are going to be too long and/or awkward when posted, which is how I prefer to write. I read that the Vac mini might be harder to disassemble and clean than other types of filling mechanism, which could be an issue given that I don't know a thing about properly cleaning a pen. Vacumatic filling systems are a pain to clean if you don't disassemble them. Fortunately TWSBI's vacs are stupid easy to maintain, just use the wrench to unscrew the plunger. It's a little less fiddly than the 580 honestly. Also the 700r basically doesn't post, so if that's something you absolutely positively need your pen to do you should look elsewhere. That being said, it's a nice size in the hand imo.
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Oct 14, 2020 13:17
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Will the TWSBI 580 Inkwell work with the 580ALR series? I'm tired of having to clean the tiny textured aluminum section with soap every time I refill it (which is pretty infrequent, this thing really does hold a lot of ink!).
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Oct 18, 2020 13:04
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I've settled on getting a sailor 1911 L (probably for Christmas) I'm excited. Just wish i was felt like I could splurge and buy like four colors. (I won't). Still, stoked.
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Oct 18, 2020 20:43
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Hey so I got a decent pen and filled it with Baystate Blue (RIP). I'm definitely noticing jellied lumps already but it's running just fine atm. Am I good to clean it once it runs out or should I act now before it clogs?
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Oct 18, 2020 22:46
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Frances Nurples posted:Hey so I got a decent pen and filled it with Baystate Blue (RIP). I'm definitely noticing jellied lumps already but it's running just fine atm. Am I good to clean it once it runs out or should I act now before it clogs? Clean now, soak the feed/nib in ammonia or white vinegar over night.
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Oct 18, 2020 22:53
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Word, thanks.
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Oct 18, 2020 23:11
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LionArcher posted:I've settled on getting a sailor 1911 L (probably for Christmas) I'm excited. Just wish i was felt like I could splurge and buy like four colors. (I won't). Still, stoked. NICE!! i swore to myself i'd never spend more than $100 on a pen but the fresca blue 1911L is probably like my #1 bucket list pen or w/e
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Oct 18, 2020 23:45
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meat glitter posted:i swore to myself i'd never spend more than $100 on a pen Hahahaha Oh that brings back such memories.
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Oct 19, 2020 01:03
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Sankis posted:Hahahaha I recently paid 85EU for a pen and it writes similar to a 25EU pen, which is just fine. At what point will one start noticing a real difference and on what metrics is that difference most pronounced?
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Oct 19, 2020 15:14
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Keetron posted:I recently paid 85EU for a pen and it writes similar to a 25EU pen, which is just fine. There's really no reliable metric - you can think of it as similar to food. Paying extra money can get you access to particular experiences (eg aged steaks and vintage wine on the one hand, and layered nibs and celebrity nibmeister adjustments on the other), but whether it's "good" is heavily subjective despite there being objective differences in the product you're receiving. There's every possibility that Jinhaos and fast food are enough to keep you satisfied for life. If it makes you happy and you can afford it, then you shouldn't worry too much about calculating value-for-money. There are too many intangibles to consider.
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Oct 19, 2020 15:41
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Keetron posted:I recently paid 85EU for a pen and it writes similar to a 25EU pen, which is just fine. Pen Addict has a statement that after $300-400 range there is no difference, but taste, but to that point there can be. Really depends on the nibs from his point.
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Oct 19, 2020 21:48
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meat glitter posted:NICE!! i swore to myself i'd never spend more than $100 on a pen but the fresca blue 1911L is probably like my #1 bucket list pen or w/e fresca blue is on my list, but so is the wicked witch of the west, the other blue, the key lime, and finally (the one I'll probably get) tangerine dream. If I do buy it. (Still not 100%) would the thread want pics? I'll go 1911L in medium nib. (I prefer non scratchy but not too big.
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Oct 19, 2020 21:50
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LionArcher posted:Pen Addict has a statement that after $300-400 range there is no difference, but taste, but to that point there can be. Really depends on the nibs from his point. More expensive pens may not be about how they write but what they look like, e. g. the Nakaya Dorsal Fin which takes several months of work and curing. Or they're overpriced garbage from "luxury" companies.
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Oct 19, 2020 21:56
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The most consistently good writer I have is a Platinum Preppy. They're unbeatable. One of the worst writing pens I have is a Pilot Murex red stripe that regularly sells for 250+. 
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gschmidl posted:More expensive pens may not be about how they write but what they look like, e. g. the Nakaya Dorsal Fin which takes several months of work and curing. Or they're overpriced garbage from "luxury" companies. yeah, from what I've seen. Though the sailor pro gear slim I tried was a very nice writer (just too small) for my hands, which is why i'm looking at the 1911L. Honestly, like others have said my "best" writer is the Lamy 2000. I figure pair that with a Sailor and really there will be no better "combo" of pens I could have for daily writers.
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Oct 19, 2020 23:22
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LionArcher posted:fresca blue is on my list, but so is the wicked witch of the west, the other blue, the key lime, and finally (the one I'll probably get) tangerine dream. If I do buy it. (Still not 100%) would the thread want pics? I'll go 1911L in medium nib. (I prefer non scratchy but not too big. I got the wicked witch of the west, I like it a lot. It's a good understated purple. I'm eying the VP LS as well, though I'm balking a little at that purchase.
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Oct 19, 2020 23:39
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Heath posted:The most consistently good writer I have is a Platinum Preppy. They're unbeatable. That's too bad about the Murex. I've been looking to get an integrated nib pen. Myu and Murex are outside of my price range, but apparently Hero has done a few (849/850) and also had an upscale brand called Paidi that released some. Do you think it's inherent in the design?
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Oct 20, 2020 02:33
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Pens with integrated nibs are notoriously difficult to tune. I had a Parker Falcon and I have a Paidi 5. The Paidi was okay, but the Parker was a complete mess and difficult to work on. Nature of the beast, I suppose.
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fanny packrat posted:That's too bad about the Murex. I've been looking to get an integrated nib pen. Myu and Murex are outside of my price range, but apparently Hero has done a few (849/850) and also had an upscale brand called Paidi that released some. Do you think it's inherent in the design? I'm not educated enough to say for sure, but the pen is just too drat fine. It's easily the finest nib I own, so anything I put in it dries out in the nib instantly if I'm not constantly writing with it
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Oct 20, 2020 03:13
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fanny packrat posted:That's too bad about the Murex. I've been looking to get an integrated nib pen. Myu and Murex are outside of my price range, but apparently Hero has done a few (849/850) and also had an upscale brand called Paidi that released some. Do you think it's inherent in the design? I don't get along with my Myu but I don't think the nib is the problem - there's no reason it shouldn't have the potential to write just the same as any other steel nib. What bugs me is the diameter and the slippery grip. The Pilot Super Ultra has a similar profile but has an inlaid nib in an urushi-covered barrel and it's much nicer to grasp. Not easy to track one of those down, though.
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LionArcher posted:Pen Addict has a statement that after $300-400 range there is no difference, but taste, but to that point there can be. Really depends on the nibs from his point. That is way over my price range, I'll stick to the sub 100 pens and it also means I am complete with 4 pens unless I find new colors I *need* in a pen such as a nice deep dark green.
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