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I find the Halo 2 elites to be fine, the trouble comes from having no breathing room once your shield drops. Theyre tough buggers but you're not fighting against OP shields as much as you are their rapid firepower.
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Halo 2 brutes are absolutely ridiculous though.
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Oct 13, 2020 09:16
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Anita Dickinme posted:Halo 2 brutes are absolutely ridiculous though. yeah the start of High Charity is just brutality on Legendary
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Oct 13, 2020 09:27
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I honestly don’t think I’ll play any of the Halo games on Legendary solo after thinking about it. I had a tough time with CE when the flood showed up and then of course the brutes being absolutely OP in 2... and I was playing on normal. 
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Oct 13, 2020 10:42
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jokes posted:Plasma pistol has been an excellent weapon since H:CE, when it was a rapid fire minimum with near-perfect accuracy. It's weird they never put in a enemy that countered the plasma pistol and pp/headshot combo.
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Oct 13, 2020 11:08
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Flannelette posted:It's weird they never put in a enemy that countered the plasma pistol and pp/headshot combo. Correct me if i'm wrong, but plasma has never been very useful against flood, no?
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Oct 13, 2020 19:53
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Flannelette posted:It's weird they never put in a enemy that countered the plasma pistol and pp/headshot combo. Arguably the Brutes in Halo 2 are pretty close to this. Without any armor thats vulnerable to plasma, they're essentially bullet sponges with possible headshots after de-helmetification. Arrath posted:Correct me if i'm wrong, but plasma has never been very useful against flood, no? In 3 it is the only thing that will damage flood Pure forms regardless of if they're armored up or not. I'd give the CE Plasma Rifle/Pistol extra points mostly because the bullet magnetism in the game tends to make it really easy to pop infection forms with them, and hitting a combat form stuns it briefly.
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Oct 13, 2020 19:58
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Oh right I'd repressed H3's pure forms cause they were just horseshit.
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Oct 13, 2020 19:59
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Back in the day some of my friends were going through Halo 2 legendary and were completely stuck on sniper alley. I ask to try and I get through it first time and though I pretended it was skill and I was really good at the game it was in fact sheer luck and I've never come close again lol
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Oct 13, 2020 20:10
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Anita Dickinme posted:Halo 2 brutes are absolutely ridiculous though. The shotgun wielding Brutes in Uprising are absolute bastards on Legendary and that’s before they go berserk and become one-hit-kill tanks.
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Oct 14, 2020 02:08
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Pure Flood die instantly to the flame thrower. as long as you can beeline to that in a level (and have something to quickly knock down ranged forms...) it's relatively easy. a single tap of flames kill even battle forms right away.
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Oct 14, 2020 02:16
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Yeah the laser sword, flamethrower, shotgun, and sentinel beam seem to be the best tools to deal with the flood across the games. Are “kinetic” (human) weapons more effective against them than covenant weapons in general? It seems like the plasma rifle, carbine, pistol, etc. are pretty anemic against them.
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Oct 14, 2020 03:32
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Brute Shot works great too. Also the Mauler. I've not found the Spiker super effective... but, yeah, kinetic stuff seems to work golden.
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Oct 14, 2020 03:36
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Sally posted:Brute Shot works great too. Also the Mauler. I've not found the Spiker super effective... but, yeah, kinetic stuff seems to work golden. 100% Brute shot, yeah. melee kills in one hit, maybe two for the tank forms. the actual grenade can blow up groups of infection or combat forms, and it gibs them so they can't revive. or the grenade can knock the ranged forms off of walls/ceilings, allowing you to melee them, or at least it usually neutralizes them or they'll turn into stalkers which are almost harmless
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Oct 14, 2020 04:26
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The Halo 3 plasma rifle is lowkey one of the best anti flood weapons in the game for plain old utility.
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Oct 14, 2020 04:36
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Sally posted:Pure Flood die instantly to the flame thrower. as long as you can beeline to that in a level (and have something to quickly knock down ranged forms...) it's relatively easy. a single tap of flames kill even battle forms right away. Fun fact, everything dies to one tap of flames! (Except vehicles, I guess, and maybe Hunters?). It's just not instant.
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Oct 14, 2020 05:36
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Arcsquad12 posted:The Halo 3 plasma rifle is lowkey one of the best anti flood weapons in the game for plain old utility. Honestly covenant weapons as a whole are excellent. Brute plasma rifles just tear the poo poo out of shields. The plasma repeater from Reach should be ret-conned to every game. Something about it just feels right, man.
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Oct 14, 2020 09:31
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jokes posted:The plasma repeater from Reach should be ret-conned to every game. Something about it just feels right, man.  Them's fightin words
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Oct 14, 2020 11:24
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jokes posted:Honestly covenant weapons as a whole are excellent. Brute plasma rifles just tear the poo poo out of shields. You take that back right now  The repeater is truly terrible; it doesn’t even do bonus damage to shields like other plasma weapons. This is because it’s basically a reskinned assault rifle. It was decent in the Reach beta but then for some reason they nerfed it into the ground.I played a bunch of Invasion back when Reach came out for PC, and I would’ve given up my firstborn child to have a Halo 1 plasma rifle instead of that awful repeater.
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Oct 14, 2020 15:10
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General Battuta posted:Fun fact, everything dies to one tap of flames! (Except vehicles, I guess, and maybe Hunters?). It's just not instant. yeah but it's the instant that matters. Pure Flood drop the moment the tiniest whiff of flame touch them. Combat Forms run around screaming and are a hazard to the player. I've died enough times to that to know the difference is a vital one. (also i am fairly certain that if you don't get Combat Forms with the flamethrower just so, they can last long enough for the flames to go out and keep fighting. I know a Pure Flood will die with the lightest tap of the trigger... i need to shower Combat Forms slightly more to be sure they drop--which is why I prefer the shotgun for them where possible)
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Oct 14, 2020 15:20
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Well that was an experience. Turns out giving the humans in Infection loving BATTLE RIFLES goes kinda poorly for the zombies! What the christ, 343.
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Oct 17, 2020 00:27
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Isnt that a classic format for infection?
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Oct 17, 2020 00:49
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I don't remember that. I've only ever played infection with shotguns+pistols, or just one of those two.
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Oct 17, 2020 01:11
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Shotguns with pistols was excellent because pistols were pretty poo poo at headshots.
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Oct 17, 2020 02:04
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OK, having finally gotten a game that wasn't Speed Demons, I can confirm that normal infection has shotty/pistol like god intended. I can also confirm that Speed Demons is way too loving common. One game that wasn't it. ONE.
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Oct 17, 2020 18:54
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Something I've wondered about Halo 2 and 3. Were the other Prophets (aka the San'Shyuum as a species) aware of the lie that the Halos were superweapons and not holy relics? Truth, Regret and Mercy all definitely knew the Great Journey was a falsehood, but did the other prophets know? If they didn't does that mean that the Elites committed genocide against another group that was just as duped as they were?
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Oct 18, 2020 19:30
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There's no clear canonical answer. In Halo 3, some random dialogue seems to suggest that Truth knew the Ark would keep him safe from Halo. But if Truth knew that Halo was just going to kill his rear end, why did he send Tartarus to activate Halo and kill his rear end? It doesn't really make any sense.
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Oct 18, 2020 19:40
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As I understand it, all the Hierarchs knew was that Humanity were the Reclaimers, not that the Halos were a superweapon.
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Oct 18, 2020 19:45
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But does that mean the other prophets signed off on the order to murder the Elites? Or was that a unilateral decision by the Hierarchs that ended up getting most of their species killed off in a civil war?
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Oct 18, 2020 20:01
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This is never explained or suggested in game, but I like the idea that Truth had to get rid of the Elites immediately because he knew they were about to figure out Humans were Forerunners. There were already dudes like the heretic leader who'd made the jump, but the Ark being on Earth was the ultimate smoking gun and would've led the Elites to the (har) truth. So Truth had to strike first before the Elites made the connection.
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Oct 18, 2020 20:07
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Proper Nouns
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Arcsquad12 posted:But does that mean the other prophets signed off on the order to murder the Elites? Or was that a unilateral decision by the Hierarchs that ended up getting most of their species killed off in a civil war? Oh, most of them were totally down for it. The ones that weren't either got purged with their Elite allies or got away with them. Then there's the Flood, which probably killed a fair number too.
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Oct 18, 2020 23:18
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Are wraiths in Halo 2 meant to be impossibly tanky to anything short of a scorpion shot or are the two at the end of Metropolis just bugged/scripted to take an assload of damage?
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Oct 19, 2020 16:42
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Arcsquad12 posted:Are wraiths in Halo 2 meant to be impossibly tanky to anything short of a scorpion shot or are the two at the end of Metropolis just bugged/scripted to take an assload of damage? They're pretty heavily armored but like Ghosts you can shoot them in the fusion core on the back to almost instantly destroy them, or kill the turret gunner and start punchin' The Gauss hog takes way longer to kill them than I remembered though
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Oct 19, 2020 16:47
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RBA Starblade posted:They're pretty heavily armored but like Ghosts you can shoot them in the fusion core on the back to almost instantly destroy them, or kill the turret gunner and start punchin' Halo 2 wraiths don't have a turret gunner, they have two side guns. I tried to sabotage them from the back and it took three grenades and still didn't go down. Also lol at Cortana "concentrate on the wraiths they're the biggest threat!" when there's three jackal snipers above them. If Halo 2 had its base game speed with the better balancing of Halo 3 it would be a lot better with less cheap deaths.
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Oct 19, 2020 17:00
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Arcsquad12 posted:Halo 2 wraiths don't have a turret gunner, they have two side guns. I tried to sabotage them from the back and it took three grenades and still didn't go down. Uh that doesn't sound right. One grenade will kill any boarded tank, iirc. If that (somehow) fails you don't actually need grenades, just keep meleeing.
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General Battuta posted:Uh that doesn't sound right. One grenade will kill any boarded tank, iirc. Then it must have been one hell of a bug because that wraith ate three grenades and four rockets to the face and was still standing. I only managed to complete the level because I got a checkpoint where the pelican lands and I could get into the building.
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Oct 19, 2020 20:03
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Arcsquad12 posted:Then it must have been one hell of a bug because that wraith ate three grenades and four rockets to the face and was still standing. I only managed to complete the level because I got a checkpoint where the pelican lands and I could get into the building. Oh no no no, they take one grenade when you board them and plant one.
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Oct 19, 2020 20:05
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Yeah grenades don't do poo poo to Wraiths unless it's shoved into the pilot's mouth. I think it takes like 5 plasmas to the fusion core on the back to destroy a wraith?
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Ablative posted:Oh no no no, they take one grenade when you board them and plant one. Thats what I did. I boarded it from the front, dropped in a grenade and dismounted. Thst didn't kill it, so I boarded from the rear and naded it and that didn't kill it, so I grabbed the spanker and unloaded four shots into it and that didn't kill it. Thing was a bastard thst wouldn't die.
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