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TearsOfPirates
Jun 11, 2016

Stultior stulto fuisti, qui tabellis crederes! - Idiot of idiots, to trust what is written!
So in other ex-yu nation news, the current leading party of goverment in Slovenia SDS has finally gotten their favourite in the leading role of the national special investigation police unit.

Welp, guess even more crimes from the heads of SDS will be hidden from now on. :tif:

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Sekenr
Dec 12, 2013




Heh, Lufthansa Technik's labour union refused to service Luka's airplane that flew there for maintenance

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
https://twitter.com/zaborona_media/status/1316363833104109568

'White Lives Matter'.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

TearsOfPirates posted:

So in other ex-yu nation news, the current leading party of goverment in Slovenia SDS has finally gotten their favourite in the leading role of the national special investigation police unit.

Welp, guess even more crimes from the heads of SDS will be hidden from now on. :tif:

how can you mention this, but not mention the biggest crime that was never going to be bothered with anyway:


spring lockdown bought us all summer of time to plan for poo poo. they never bothered to and instead insisted on opening up schools while knowing full well children are superspreaders because they're asymptomatic lmfao

we're doing the herd immunity strategy apparently. all the death are going to be on them

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Just few hundred cases to get to 10k / day, we can do it!

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

Poland gets around that problem by limited testing. Saw first "you're not sick don't wear the mask. Noone can force you, and you'll get fungal infection of lungs". Thanks US for exporting your loving loons...

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

steinrokkan posted:

Just few hundred cases to get to 10k / day, we can do it!



TIL that in Czech it's still often Česká republika, and not Česko/Czechia, because of course that will take forever to enter common usage regardless of the language.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
It's pretty much always Česko in colloquial speech, and never Česká republika outside of official / formal contexts.

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008

Is there a recent aggregated comparison of number of tests vs number of positives in Europe? I don't doubt that Poland tests hmmm... "strategically" but a nice dataset would help.

edit: map here https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing suggests Czechia jukes the stats even worse than Poland

Anne Frank Funk fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Oct 15, 2020

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

Sekenr posted:

Heh, Lufthansa Technik's labour union refused to service Luka's airplane that flew there for maintenance

That’s awesome, and apparently not the first time, either - they did the same thing in the 80’s to Ceausescu.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

steinrokkan posted:

Just few hundred cases to get to 10k / day, we can do it!



I was super impressed how they handled it in spring but then instead of carefully easing some of the measure they went "ok it's eliminated now" and here we are lol. I see seen this coming and hosed off to Spain where they have a similar number of cases on a population 4 times as large.


alex314 posted:

Poland gets around that problem by limited testing. Saw first "you're not sick don't wear the mask. Noone can force you, and you'll get fungal infection of lungs". Thanks US for exporting your loving loons...
Everyone has their own loons unfortunately.

Here I called my doctor and said that I've had headaches, sore throat and runny nose, he said that if I could still taste stuff that's not it and I don't need to get tested.

Before that I was at the dentist and he and the nurse spent the whole time talking about how wearing a mask is super terrible for children (while wearing surgical masks) and the vaccines are going to kill more people than save.

One of my high school mates constantly posts on facebook how they should reopen bars and schools and shut down the government instead.

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

At least here in EE we're used to feeling we're doomed half the time. I imagine how scary it must be to someone in a normal country..

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

steinrokkan posted:

It's pretty much always Česko in colloquial speech, and never Česká republika outside of official / formal contexts.

The fact that Bohemians call Bohemia "Czech" was confusing to me at first.

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


mobby_6kl posted:

Before that I was at the dentist and he and the nurse spent the whole time talking about how wearing a mask is super terrible for children (while wearing surgical masks) and the vaccines are going to kill more people than save.

One of my high school mates constantly posts on facebook how they should reopen bars and schools and shut down the government instead.

This fucker absolutely removes second canines for religious reasons and should be stripped of his credentials.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Scratch Monkey posted:

The fact that Bohemians call Bohemia "Czech" was confusing to me at first.

Yeah, it's like the England vs UK thing, except both the "wrong" and correct name for the country are basically spelled and pronounced the same to an outsider and then their respective adjectives are literally identical.

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012

Big Hubris posted:

This fucker absolutely removes second canines for religious reasons and should be stripped of his credentials.

Excuse me, WHAT?

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


Aumanor posted:

Excuse me, WHAT?

If conspiracy theorists ask to see your teeth and you have the dental anomaly of a second pair of canines, don't show them your teeth. They'll think you're a lizard man or satan.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
I mean, I am a lizard person but it has nothing to do with my teeth. Word's not in on the satan part though

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

steinrokkan posted:

Yeah, it's like the England vs UK thing, except both the "wrong" and correct name for the country are basically spelled and pronounced the same to an outsider and then their respective adjectives are literally identical.
It's also completely idiotic and was literally made in order for the shorter name to fit on athletes' shirts.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Big Hubris posted:

If conspiracy theorists ask to see your teeth and you have the dental anomaly of a second pair of canines, don't show them your teeth. They'll think you're a lizard man or satan.
Or maybe both?

https://external-preview.redd.it/f6x_-tQ1Cj_rEBVKVRajKOLh85MJeFE03YKk5EFTSW8.jpg?auto=webp&s=501f8ef8004156d8b98b4958b62dbdccf7244ee7

poo poo I wish I was satan. Not Šatan though that guy sucks.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

They marched all the way to the building of Presidential Administration to show off some really 'cool' banners.



'Ukrainians! Let's celebrate anniversary of occupation and pillaging of Ukraine by the Dnipro Jewish clan of Vova Zelenskyi!!!'

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
ukraine was probably the most anti-semitic place i have ever been in europe

its really wild

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I'm sure it's pretty bad but unfortunately Ukraine is probably not the worst



Czech republic nooooo

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Vasukhani posted:

ukraine was probably the most anti-semitic place i have ever been in europe

its really wild

It is, considering they've managed to elect a Jewish president.
Really, I wouldn't say anti-semitism is more widespread in Ukraine compared to most Eastern European countries, but the government does very little to curtail far-right organisations and allows them to be very visible. Too visible at times.

Dawncloack
Nov 26, 2007
ECKS DEE!
Nap Ghost
EE countries are just being more honest. Spain has nice figures but when the ribber hits the road, Spain is super duper mega antisemitic/antimuslim. 74%? Would accept a Muslim person im their family? LOL.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Dawncloack posted:

EE countries are just being more honest. Spain has nice figures but when the ribber hits the road, Spain is super duper mega antisemitic/antimuslim. 74%? Would accept a Muslim person im their family? LOL.

The fact that more people feel safe to be 'honest' about it also means that this type of prejudice is more normalised there.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

Paladinus posted:

It is, considering they've managed to elect a Jewish president.
Really, I wouldn't say anti-semitism is more widespread in Ukraine compared to most Eastern European countries, but the government does very little to curtail far-right organisations and allows them to be very visible. Too visible at times.



Odessa feels positively haunted. I remember some shop had literal "running of the jew" style "Jewish" figurines in the window.

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008

One of the first wave of Ukrainian migrants who worked at my company said he is surprised at the antisemitism in Poland - in Ukraine Jews are respected and everyone envies their business savvy, he said.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Vasukhani posted:

Odessa feels positively haunted. I remember some shop had literal "running of the jew" style "Jewish" figurines in the window.

Well, in case of Odessa, a city with a sizeable and culturally prominent Jewish minority, it could have been self-deprecating humour. But could have easily been something else.

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT
I remember when Russia started invading Ukraine, over at the Paradox forums a serb said Ukraine government was taken over by nazis, and when someone pointed out that some members of the new government was jewish, he said those were the bad type of jews without any irony.

Rincewinds fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Oct 15, 2020

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

mobby_6kl posted:

I'm sure it's pretty bad but unfortunately Ukraine is probably not the worst



Czech republic nooooo

lol at Bosnia, 51% of the population is muslim but only 42% would supposedly accept them to their family according to this study :newlol:

Russia is likewise an outlier, 10% of their population are muslims so it's not all that surprising that they appear more positive about it than other eastern european nations.

Greece is interesting. I understand it from the anti-Turkish and recent refugee point, but the level of opposition to Jews is puzzling.

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Nenonen posted:

lol at Bosnia, 51% of the population is muslim but only 42% would supposedly accept them to their family according to this study :newlol:
The other half was at some point at war with muslim half and BiH always seems to be on a brink of a civil war, so it's not really that surprising.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

Paladinus posted:

Well, in case of Odessa, a city with a sizeable and culturally prominent Jewish minority, it could have been self-deprecating humour. But could have easily been something else.

not exactly sizeable anymore

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

Anne Frank Funk posted:

One of the first wave of Ukrainian migrants who worked at my company said he is surprised at the antisemitism in Poland - in Ukraine Jews are respected and everyone envies their business savvy, he said.

semitephilia the other side of the same coin as antisemtism

Guildencrantz
May 1, 2012

IM ONE OF THE GOOD ONES
Back before the 2015 election I met a random older man who explained to me why he votes for PiS. Kaczynski is secretly a Jew, you see, but that's a good thing - he still cares about Poland and wants to make it strong, and as the Jews run the world, he will be able to enlist their help. The path is clear: Poland must ally with the Great Jewish Conspiracy, and together we will be unstoppable.

You can't even begin to argue with that, you just stand there in awe at the fascinating rare species of brain worms.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
That was also the Imperial Japanese strategy for winning the WWII.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
And how did that work out for them?

Hal_2005
Feb 23, 2007
Fun fact: Kolomoskyi, a jewish oligarch sponsors the Azanov Battalion which is controlled opposition whenever they need a dogwhistle for "Ukranian Nazi's". If you look at some of the faces from the Nikopol Ferroalloy Plant protests you will see the same paid protestors at the Azov rallies.

Since the thread is slowing down a bit, here is some spicy updates from the worlds STD capital:

1. Kolomoskyi seems to have a hard on for taking down Bakhmanchuk. I guess there is a feud going back to some land scheme which Oleg and Yanukovich pulled, which Benya now wants to steal from Oleg. Bohdan when he is not being a mafia lawyer apparently is the 8th largest land holder in Ukraine and really enjoys farming sunflowers. What a guy. Expect to see Oleg or Petya brought before the DBR in 1Q20 in a "mirror" of the Yulia Tymoshenko trial & arrest. Expectation is to show the "West", or whoever Ihor thinks is his enemy that week, he is in "charge" and in control of the country via a show trial for western media.
2. Kolomoskyi is no longer able to smuggle gasoline through Belarus with Yermak, and Yermak is now under threat of being fired by "for the Future". If he is fired, I wonder how Rosneft intends to send creditors to Ukraine for the last 6 months of gasoline they smuggled into Kremachug. Also, with Bohdan and Yermak both gone, unless Arakamia wants to become a pariah next, the OPU has now run out of people with pockets deep enough to bribe the SOP's from remaining as one "mono majority". Expect the party to collapse into at least 3 parties in 2021.
3. Burisma's lawyer is under arrest for trying to bribe the GPU and is now cooperating with the FBI/DOJ. Expect Burisma and Poroshenko to cooperate with either Biden or Trump, because they have cooperated with both and its working well for them.
4. Kolomoskyi seem intent on sucking Putin Dick. Pinchuk now has sold all his assets to Medvechuk through Alfa Bank calling his loans. Viktor and Kuchma are now down to interpipe and two small industrial concerns in Dinipro. Pipeline sales is a tough racket. RIP Yalta binge drinking.
5. Zelensky apparently didnt get the message with a snub from HMR QE II, so he leaked the MI6 meeting notes to RT. Perhaps the biggest FU since he snubbed France (Macron) at the TCG meeting last summer. Zelensky must be very confident on his Yermak life line to his Rostov-on-the-Don bolt hole, because at this stage I can't see him serving his full term. What is most realistic is the splinter "SOP" will move to turn Ukraine into a "parliamentary republic" like Israel, where they will dump the President and then impeach Zelensky. This will give the Rada absolute power which will permanently force the last 7 oligarchs to form power blocks to manage what remains of the country's state property scams and government contracts. Since all 5 of the 7 with >=100mm USD all are currently swinging for team Moscow, expect another cycle of Kuchma or Yanukovich level corruption. I expect the anti-journalism law will pass before June 2020 which will neutralize all the major EU / US backed journalism in country. Expect journalist killings to double before October 2021 when the turf wars heat up, particularly when the Iranian money starts to flow into the new Kyiv and Odessa casinos this summer.
6. Ze/Servant is behind bad in the polls. Oppo block and the "Truth & Deeds" parties are likely going to sweep the south, making any sort of Ukraine reform program difficult due to decentralized corruption schemes
7. NABU will be liquidated in February, throwing the entire Visa Free regime into doubt
8. Privat is now raiding the insurance industry. Because hey, if he can't steal a bank, why not steal something from Prem Watsa or Warren Buffett, right ?
9. Ukraine has done the impossible and successfully now become too politically toxic to both NATO, Russia, the EU and China.
10. In line with (7) the armed forces reforms are being unwound, with the entire special forces ("Alfa Group"), not to be confused with Fridman/Khan's bank, being "reformed". All the units which were fighting or had fighting experience vs. Russia are now being disbanded in the largest setback to the armed forces since Tymoshenko sold all their working artillery systems to Somalia in 1994. I'm not sure what 27,000 unemployed paramilitary and special operators intend to do with their careers but it's going to really drive down the wages for PMC's in Africa and Mexico.

If Joe Biden wins, Ukraine is hosed. As soon as Susan Rice is confirmed SOS, the pimp slapping which is going to hit Zelensky/Kolomoskyi is going to be surreal.
If Trump wins, Ukraine is hosed. He is going to come after Zelensky/Kolmoskyi with everything he has to get Kolmoskyi to cough up the beans on Mikola and Hunter/Jang.

Dawncloack
Nov 26, 2007
ECKS DEE!
Nap Ghost
Woah wait.

Zelensky's Rostov-on-Don bolthole?

You don't mean that literally, right? Because that is one hell of an implication.

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Hal_2005 posted:

Fun fact: Kolomoskyi, a jewish oligarch sponsors the Azanov Battalion which is controlled opposition whenever they need a dogwhistle for "Ukranian Nazi's". If you look at some of the faces from the Nikopol Ferroalloy Plant protests you will see the same paid protestors at the Azov rallies.

Since the thread is slowing down a bit, here is some spicy updates from the worlds STD capital:

1. Kolomoskyi seems to have a hard on for taking down Bakhmanchuk. I guess there is a feud going back to some land scheme which Oleg and Yanukovich pulled, which Benya now wants to steal from Oleg. Bohdan when he is not being a mafia lawyer apparently is the 8th largest land holder in Ukraine and really enjoys farming sunflowers. What a guy. Expect to see Oleg or Petya brought before the DBR in 1Q20 in a "mirror" of the Yulia Tymoshenko trial & arrest. Expectation is to show the "West", or whoever Ihor thinks is his enemy that week, he is in "charge" and in control of the country via a show trial for western media.
2. Kolomoskyi is no longer able to smuggle gasoline through Belarus with Yermak, and Yermak is now under threat of being fired by "for the Future". If he is fired, I wonder how Rosneft intends to send creditors to Ukraine for the last 6 months of gasoline they smuggled into Kremachug. Also, with Bohdan and Yermak both gone, unless Arakamia wants to become a pariah next, the OPU has now run out of people with pockets deep enough to bribe the SOP's from remaining as one "mono majority". Expect the party to collapse into at least 3 parties in 2021.
3. Burisma's lawyer is under arrest for trying to bribe the GPU and is now cooperating with the FBI/DOJ. Expect Burisma and Poroshenko to cooperate with either Biden or Trump, because they have cooperated with both and its working well for them.
4. Kolomoskyi seem intent on sucking Putin Dick. Pinchuk now has sold all his assets to Medvechuk through Alfa Bank calling his loans. Viktor and Kuchma are now down to interpipe and two small industrial concerns in Dinipro. Pipeline sales is a tough racket. RIP Yalta binge drinking.
5. Zelensky apparently didnt get the message with a snub from HMR QE II, so he leaked the MI6 meeting notes to RT. Perhaps the biggest FU since he snubbed France (Macron) at the TCG meeting last summer. Zelensky must be very confident on his Yermak life line to his Rostov-on-the-Don bolt hole, because at this stage I can't see him serving his full term. What is most realistic is the splinter "SOP" will move to turn Ukraine into a "parliamentary republic" like Israel, where they will dump the President and then impeach Zelensky. This will give the Rada absolute power which will permanently force the last 7 oligarchs to form power blocks to manage what remains of the country's state property scams and government contracts. Since all 5 of the 7 with >=100mm USD all are currently swinging for team Moscow, expect another cycle of Kuchma or Yanukovich level corruption. I expect the anti-journalism law will pass before June 2020 which will neutralize all the major EU / US backed journalism in country. Expect journalist killings to double before October 2021 when the turf wars heat up, particularly when the Iranian money starts to flow into the new Kyiv and Odessa casinos this summer.
6. Ze/Servant is behind bad in the polls. Oppo block and the "Truth & Deeds" parties are likely going to sweep the south, making any sort of Ukraine reform program difficult due to decentralized corruption schemes
7. NABU will be liquidated in February, throwing the entire Visa Free regime into doubt
8. Privat is now raiding the insurance industry. Because hey, if he can't steal a bank, why not steal something from Prem Watsa or Warren Buffett, right ?
9. Ukraine has done the impossible and successfully now become too politically toxic to both NATO, Russia, the EU and China.
10. In line with (7) the armed forces reforms are being unwound, with the entire special forces ("Alfa Group"), not to be confused with Fridman/Khan's bank, being "reformed". All the units which were fighting or had fighting experience vs. Russia are now being disbanded in the largest setback to the armed forces since Tymoshenko sold all their working artillery systems to Somalia in 1994. I'm not sure what 27,000 unemployed paramilitary and special operators intend to do with their careers but it's going to really drive down the wages for PMC's in Africa and Mexico.

If Joe Biden wins, Ukraine is hosed. As soon as Susan Rice is confirmed SOS, the pimp slapping which is going to hit Zelensky/Kolomoskyi is going to be surreal.
If Trump wins, Ukraine is hosed. He is going to come after Zelensky/Kolmoskyi with everything he has to get Kolmoskyi to cough up the beans on Mikola and Hunter/Jang.

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1316881528404791298

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