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ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Miftan posted:

Reaaaaally stretching the definition of 'soft left' there by applying it to Keith. He's a Liberal *at best*

I grant that these labels shift over time, but insofar as the Milibands still represent the dividing line, Ed Miliband (who is on Starmer's cabinet, did not resign from the front bench and did abstain as ordered on the CHIS bill's second reading, if you were wondering) is still generally regarded to be representative of the soft-left at the moment, no? What would place Miliband the Younger on a different politics relative to Starmer?

ronya fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Oct 16, 2020

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1965917
Oct 4, 2005

So what items should I be stockpiling for no deal?

People are going to panic buy toilet paper because they always do, but what else should I be grabbing?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JITC1fo2HA

ronya posted:

China is 220v residential and 380v three-phase...

You can just drop the store a message (in English; Aliexpress will automatically translate).
I think I'm going to have to, because I've found what looks like a suitable one there, but the spec page looks very 'getting the web sales guy to write the electrical spec'/'making poo poo up'/

ronya posted:

(this is Aliexpress after all)



Like, as you say, 380v is China's three-phase, but it's listed as a single phase motor, and having two motors of equal power producing less airflow and less pressure with the same fan is extremely strange, so one of those figures is wrong (I suspect they're ¼hp (180W) motors, or are running that way on 60Hz*).

How good is the translate? I worry I'm going to send something incomprehensible and/or insulting, like some of the badly translated sales spam I get.

*the European 150W motor and

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

This looks interesting:

https://twitter.com/VolcanoUK/status/1317129499071361026?s=20

quote:

A comedy of betrayal. Mark Thomas tells his true story of how Britain’s biggest arms manufacturer (BAE Systems) came to spy on a comedian. A tale of hubris, planes, demos and undercover deceit told by the award-winning performer.

Fifteen years ago an activist and close friend of Mark's was exposed as a spy for BAE Systems infiltrating the movement. Now Mark wants to find him and has some questions to ask. This is a true story. The show uses interviews from friends, colleagues, activists and journalists to examine the impact of betrayal.

Might be a good one for PraxisCast's first comedy review? Tickets are only a fiver.

ChairmanGoesWoof
Jul 12, 2016

Angepain posted:

I made an important piece of art for our times.



still not sure I got the hair right.

lmao

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

WhatEvil posted:

This looks interesting:

https://twitter.com/VolcanoUK/status/1317129499071361026?s=20


Might be a good one for PraxisCast's first comedy review? Tickets are only a fiver.

they've sold out and are selling merchandise based on twitter

i saw mark thomas give a talk at glastonbury when i was an 18 year old and i remember none of it but being very impressed

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Guavanaut posted:

I think I'm going to have to, because I've found what looks like a suitable one there, but the spec page looks very 'getting the web sales guy to write the electrical spec'/'making poo poo up'/



Like, as you say, 380v is China's three-phase, but it's listed as a single phase motor, and having two motors of equal power producing less airflow and less pressure with the same fan is extremely strange, so one of those figures is wrong (I suspect they're ¼hp (180W) motors, or are running that way on 60Hz*).

How good is the translate? I worry I'm going to send something incomprehensible and/or insulting, like some of the badly translated sales spam I get.

*the European 150W motor and


Looking up the model info suggests to me someone made an error in the copy: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/JMKE-High-Pressure-Fan-CY133-Ac_62013264768.html - says there the 380v is three-phase

I actually do speak some Chinese but the fun part about Aliexpress is that it doesn't allow you to message in Chinese even if you do, go figure. What I do though, I write messages in English and plug them into Google Translate and see if the result makes any sense. If it does, probably whatever translator Alibaba uses under the hood won't be much different. I suppose one could translate the Chinese result back into English again to gauge its sensibility; if it's idiom-free enough to survive several roundtrips through the babelfish then it's probably okay

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
My own BAE Systems story is that as I was repairing a waste toner bottle guide on a photocopier - their own fault for moving a photocopier up a flight of stairs on their own in my opinion - is that while I was doing the repair, I overheard a conversation that both of our brand spanking new carriers have sort of big electrical fault that's going to need high seven figures or a low eight figures on each boat to replace. Just casually dropped into conversation like we'd say about replacing a graphics card in a PC

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

bit of a tell they don't mentioned how badly hit public transport workers are tbh

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Jose posted:

they've sold out and are selling merchandise based on twitter

i saw mark thomas give a talk at glastonbury when i was an 18 year old and i remember none of it but being very impressed

Sold out at actually at the theatre I guess? I clicked through to buy tickets and it says you get a private youtube link for the livestream for a fiver.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

1965917 posted:

So what items should I be stockpiling for no deal?

People are going to panic buy toilet paper because they always do, but what else should I be grabbing?

I got bags and bags of dog food, worst case in the event of actual famine no one is going to be producing it, best case people panic buy again and just in time delivery monumentally breaks down because this won’t be a warehouse stocking issue, it will be “can’t get it in from Ireland fast enough because the lorries are still stuck in a lorry park”


I got able and cole veg deliveries booked to start mid December, and weekly Morrison’s subscription boxes - because these are coming from warehouse and advanced ordered they were fine under lockdown when the shelves were ravaged. Don’t be surprised if when people panic buy again Morrison’s actually shut down the stores and only do the boxes and Amazon orders.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's going to be interesting how JIT handles the disruption right after christmas, the time of year when it's already stretched. I don't know if the expanded logistics capacity is good or bad because it's full of loving hams and turkey.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Wales a far left hellscape

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1316687164214833152

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

OwlFancier posted:

It's going to be interesting how JIT handles the disruption right after christmas, the time of year when it's already stretched. I don't know if the expanded logistics capacity is good or bad because it's full of loving hams and turkey.

I think people are going to panic buy again, I got instincts for this and seeing empty shelves on Christmas Eve is going to trigger the insanity again.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.



Border with Wales, Scotland wants independence, border in the Irish Sea, border in Kent... Going well for the Conservative and Unionist Party.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ronya posted:

Looking up the model info suggests to me someone made an error in the copy: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/JMKE-High-Pressure-Fan-CY133-Ac_62013264768.html - says there the 380v is three-phase
Excellent, 谢谢. I did try looking for the model number, but I didn't think to look for it on alibaba, thinking it'd be more of the same, but there's a lot more info on there.

I still think there's something funny going on with the numbers, even on the detailed one. Comparing 220V 60Hz with 220V 50Hz the motor draws 176W instead of 154W, so it makes sense it's moving more air. But apparently the 110V 60Hz draws 154W and performs the exact same as at 176W. I don't believe that. 176W at 60Hz in general and 154W at 50Hz in general I'd believe, so I think there's still some misprints.

ronya posted:

I actually do speak some Chinese but the fun part about Aliexpress is that it doesn't allow you to message in Chinese even if you do, go figure. What I do though, I write messages in English and plug them into Google Translate and see if the result makes any sense. If it does, probably whatever translator Alibaba uses under the hood won't be much different. I suppose one could translate the Chinese result back into English again to gauge its sensibility; if it's idiom-free enough to survive several roundtrips through the babelfish then it's probably okay
Yeah that's probably the best plan. Very strange not allowing Chinese messaging, is that the same with other non-Latin scripts, i.e. a Unicode issue?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/adamparsons/status/1317139505837707269?s=21

we r fukked

JoylessJester
Sep 13, 2012

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

My own BAE Systems story is that as I was repairing a waste toner bottle guide on a photocopier - their own fault for moving a photocopier up a flight of stairs on their own in my opinion - is that while I was doing the repair, I overheard a conversation that both of our brand spanking new carriers have sort of big electrical fault that's going to need high seven figures or a low eight figures on each boat to replace. Just casually dropped into conversation like we'd say about replacing a graphics card in a PC

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2020/06/26/heres-why-britain-is-struggling-to-form-a-fully-effective-carrier-strike-group/

And thats just the stuff you can find from public sources in 15 seconds.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013



I've started my stockpile, I'm going to take a look this weekend and bulk it out some more.

We are indeed completely loving hosed. Just let me get a PS5 so I can play the DeS remake before the gammons resort to cannibalising me.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

I like that our multi-billion pound state of the art supercarriers are entirely dependent for their operational capability on "one support ship with limited capacity" that has already been in service for 26 years. And since the navy's surface capability is pathetically small already probably half the frigate and destroyed complement are going to be permanently tied up escorting whichever carrier is in the field at any give time.

So speaking practically you could cripple the entire royal navy by sinking the one supply ship we have to keep the fleet fed and watered lol

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007


The support vessel thing is an absolute shitshow. The last lot we bought were from Korea to save costs, but then we had to spend a load of money refitting them once we got them. For the latest ones we are buying to support the carriers, the tender process has been cancelled because nobody can agree whether to build them in the UK or abroad. The tories clearly want to built them abroad on the cheap, all despite us having multiple yards in the UK who are on the verge of collapse.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

communism bitch posted:

So speaking practically you could cripple the entire royal navy by sinking the one supply ship we have to keep the fleet fed and watered lol

lol you don't have to keep the crew watered they're in the sea!!

don't you know the song? water water everywhere, etc.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Guavanaut posted:

Yeah that's probably the best plan. Very strange not allowing Chinese messaging, is that the same with other non-Latin scripts, i.e. a Unicode issue?

No, it allows Russian. My guess it's deliberate filtering to force the market segmentation between Alibaba (b2b), Aliexpress (overseas retail+wholesale), and Taobao/Tmall (domestic retail and wholesale respectively). Aliexpress has the highest prices of all four but its ordering experience is the least insane for overseas customers

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

lol you don't have to keep the crew watered they're in the sea!!

don't you know the song? water water everywhere, etc.

The carriers at least have their own reverse osmosis plants to make their own!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

The tories clearly want to built them abroad on the cheap, all despite us having multiple yards in the UK who are on the verge of collapse.
Party of patriotism.

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

The carriers at least have their own reverse osmosis plants to make their own!
You at least need cordial to go in it because gently caress drinking RO water unflavored.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

The carriers at least have their own reverse osmosis plants to make their own!

The year is 2021. The British fleet have been near-crippled by three french blokes who were very insistent about cod. Only Admiral Luke "Vars" Akehurst can save us now

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

The carriers at least have their own reverse osmosis plants to make their own!

The budget option we chose sadly turns seawater directly into piss.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1316887009198141441?s=19

Is this good?

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Spangly A posted:

The year is 2021. The British fleet have been near-crippled by three french blokes who were very insistent about cod. Only Admiral Luke "Vars" Akehurst can save us now

Even better, when they attempted to dock both carriers next to each other for the first time, they hosed up docking HMS Bastard Offspring. And by loving up, I mean that normally when the carriers dock they hook them into a very big boat equivalent of an electric car docking station, except Bastard Offspring severed the cable. This meant that both ships could only be powered by running their engines 24/7 and these fuckers are *exceptionally loud* even at idle, let alone having the engines run enough to keep the lights on for the two weeks it took to repair the cable

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
That's a strange tweet from "Not political -be warned or be blocked!"

Cefte
Sep 18, 2004

tranquil consciousness

Guavanaut posted:

That's a strange tweet from "Not political -be warned or be blocked!"
The creation and retail of Captain Kirk minature action figures transcends politics.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
gonna be honest and say between boris' laziness and desire to be loved i thought he'd sabre rattle and sign whatever deal the EU gave in the end because of how bad things are going to be but the madman appears to be going through with it

Bone Crimes
Mar 7, 2007


Hey now, its not that bad... pretty soon 1000 GBP will be like what, $50?

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Jose posted:

gonna be honest and say between boris' laziness and desire to be loved i thought he'd sabre rattle and sign whatever deal the EU gave in the end because of how bad things are going to be but the madman appears to be going through with it

Given his known behaviour I reckon the brexit diehards in the party have some primo poo poo on him and its them and their rich mates he wants to love him anyway

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Boris will personally be making several (tens of?) millions of pounds from a no-deal Brexit, through association with Aaron Banks, Crispin Odey and other assorted cunts.

Not that I have any actual evidence for this but come on.

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Nostalgic Cashew posted:

Hey now, its not that bad... pretty soon 1000 GBP will be like what, $50?

Speaking of .. should I be transferring some of my meager savings into Euros/Dollars to avoid a January no deal crash ala the referendum results day, or is no deal already priced in at this point?

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Jose posted:

gonna be honest and say between boris' laziness and desire to be loved i thought he'd sabre rattle and sign whatever deal the EU gave in the end because of how bad things are going to be but the madman appears to be going through with it

Well it could still be something similar, more like a sword dance than rattling but hey.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

blunt posted:

Speaking of .. should I be transferring some of my meager savings into Euros/Dollars to avoid a January no deal crash ala the referendum results day, or is no deal already priced in at this point?

I would be looking at more stable currencies if you are looking to keep your money rather than win or lose, maybe NZ or Australia. gently caress knows what would happen to the dollar if trump wins or loses and refuses to go.

SA_Avenger
Oct 22, 2012

RunningOnEmpty posted:

just read on the bbc.
Brexit: Trade talks with the EU are 'over', says No 10.
so on the 0 to hyper boned scale, how boned are we?

Like people have said for the last 2-3 years: stockpile

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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

SA_Avenger posted:

Like people have said for the last 2-3 years: stockpile

But stockpile dried and not tinned, dried herbs and vitamin pills as well - loads of people who initially stockpiled ended up with 400 tins of beans to eat this summer. Sugar in clip lock is important, so you got 5kg of oats, cool cool, but it will make you cry the moment you run out of anything to flavour it with.

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