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What a good loving chapter, one piece is so good
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Reading Kaido's utter bafflement at how the Red Scabbards are actually managing to hurt him is so, so satisfying.
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Oct 16, 2020 18:39
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People are so mad that the Scabbards are actually managing to hurt Kaido. I can't imagine what it's like being so broke-brained that you can't enjoy one of the most emotional moments in the series because it messes up your list of the top ten strongest characters in One Piece.
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Oct 16, 2020 18:42
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 "This story about having the will to do the impossible is going downhill because these characters are doing something everyone says is impossible"
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Oct 16, 2020 18:54
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the people in the world are not well...
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Oct 16, 2020 18:57
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I wonder if Kaido and Black Maria are part of the same species of horned giants
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Oct 16, 2020 18:57
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ThingOne posted:People are so mad that the Scabbards are actually managing to hurt Kaido. I can't imagine what it's like being so broke-brained that you can't enjoy one of the most emotional moments in the series because it messes up your list of the top ten strongest characters in One Piece. it doesn't even make sense bc the scabbards are all explicitly supposed to be strong as hell with some around the level of the emperor commanders and they're fighting 9v1 and loving furious and we all know there's going to be a moment where kaido goes "i acknowledge you" or some poo poo and beasts out on them still to come but for now i feel the same catharsis they do with every hit
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Oct 16, 2020 19:05
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I just keep rereading this chapter, it's so loving good man.
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Oct 16, 2020 19:26
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The scabbards aren't likely to win anyway, but them being able to wound the impossible by sheer force of will and willingness to sacrifice everything is very satisfying.
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Oct 16, 2020 19:29
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I'm still hoping that at some point Momo transforms into a Kaido sized dragon in this fight. Willpower and what have ya.
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Oct 16, 2020 19:31
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tbp posted:it doesn't even make sense bc the scabbards are all explicitly supposed to be strong as hell with some around the level of the emperor commanders and they're fighting 9v1 and loving furious and we all know there's going to be a moment where kaido goes "i acknowledge you" or some poo poo and beasts out on them still to come but for now i feel the same catharsis they do with every hit Yeah after the "I acknowledge you" moment he's going to shift to his in between form, which we notably have not yet seen and is the strongest form a typical Zoan user can take. Or it was until awakening, at least. Could be that instead.
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Oct 16, 2020 19:43
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tbp posted:it doesn't even make sense bc the scabbards are all explicitly supposed to be strong as hell with some around the level of the emperor commanders and they're fighting 9v1 and loving furious and we all know there's going to be a moment where kaido goes "i acknowledge you" or some poo poo and beasts out on them still to come but for now i feel the same catharsis they do with every hit I was just remarking about this to a few of my friends but it finally hit me this chapter watching Izo make some attacks that he is on the level of and possibly not eve the strongest of the Scabbards and we know that most of the fighting Straw Hats are more powerful than their leader. Like we obviously all knew that they had leveled up significantly over the time skip and Luffy beat Doflamingo but remembering how Luffy was totally outclassed in the Summit War and now someone who was a player in that arc is like, sidekick status to the Straw Hats is a crazy feeling
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Oct 16, 2020 19:55
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I feel like the Venn diagram of people complaining about the scabbards injuring Kaido and the people who didn't think Oden was amazing is a circle.
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Oct 16, 2020 21:14
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I love the scabbards in this, so loving sick. Does anyone think Marco was referencing Rox to Mom? When she talks about dead men not giving commands when she's talking to Marco about WB. He's like yeah you should now after all when you're a remnant of the Rox?
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Oct 16, 2020 21:23
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EmmyOk posted:Does anyone think Marco was referencing Rox to Mom? When she talks about dead men not giving commands when she's talking to Marco about WB. He's like yeah you should now after all when you're a remnant of the Rox? That's what I thought at first, but the more times I read that conversation the less I'm certain of what exactly is being said - i.e. whether it's a "you should know being a crew's remnant yourself" or if it's really just him stressing "Whitebeard is dead and we now do as we please"
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Oct 16, 2020 21:43
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EmmyOk posted:I love the scabbards in this, so loving sick. that isn't the impression i got i just read it as "i'm here following luffy of my own volition, not because whitebeard said to before he died"
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Oct 16, 2020 21:44
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Yeah I think that’s hat he means but I think he’s implying “and you of all people should get that” along with it
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Oct 16, 2020 21:51
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oh yeah im saying i only got the text and didn't feel ther ewas any subtext to that scene particularly. we'll probs get it more cleared up soon though, i imagine the kaido flashback is the rox flashback
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Oct 16, 2020 21:56
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no no, you can't have someone other than luffy or zoro hurt kaido! haha Oden two-sword style go brrrr
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Oct 16, 2020 21:56
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Big Mom's reaction makes me think Rox tried to pull something similar to Roger before he died but couldn't because his crew wasn't actually loyal to him. It also makes me think them joining his crew was less than voluntary.
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Oct 16, 2020 22:02
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Super Rad posted:I feel like the Venn diagram of people complaining about the scabbards injuring Kaido and the people who didn't think Oden was amazing is a circle. Nah, Odin was fine but not amazing. This chapter is amazing.
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Oct 16, 2020 22:51
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Oden's characterization/arc suffers somewhat because he's some long dead guy who none of the crew get to meet in real time, but he is also built up to be this literal legend who travelled with Roger and this can be a lot to live up to. This is somewhat mitigated by getting to know several of the scabbards and seeing how much they love him and want to carry on his work. I still thought the flashback was excellent and about as good as Oda could do given the circumstances, tho I get why not everyone loves him
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Oct 16, 2020 23:06
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tbp posted:oh yeah im saying i only got the text and didn't feel ther ewas any subtext to that scene particularly. we'll probs get it more cleared up soon though, i imagine the kaido flashback is the rox flashback That’s fair for sure! Totally agree on the text. This is what has me thinking of the subtext along with Marcos initial “are you sure you’re not mistaking on the meaning of remnants” 
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Oct 16, 2020 23:28
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I didn't love Oden anywhere close to how much I loved norlands flashback and the golden bell
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Oct 16, 2020 23:33
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I liked seeing Roger and Whitebeard way more than Oden himself.
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Oct 16, 2020 23:34
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That panel of the scabbards preparing to charge and then dodging the lightning howls is just honestly one of the best panels Oda has ever drawn. It is just so cool
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Oct 16, 2020 23:36
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Terror Sweat posted:I didn't love Oden anywhere close to how much I loved norlands flashback and the golden bell This and Fisher Tiger. Oden suffers not from valor but from comparison. God, Luffy destroying Fishman Island is going to have a payout like the golden bell, isn't it.
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Oct 17, 2020 00:11
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i am an absolute sucker for "insanely strong badass characters who debase themselves for other" characters so ofc i love oden. him being a wild man who took in the gutter characters without a second thought reminds me a lot of people i look up to irl, his thirst for adventure was endearing, he had a full character arc where he learned he must do what is right for wano (though he was naive), and then he had the coolest sacrifice in the story to me. i love the guy then panels like the four in two sword style make him even BETTER to me
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Oct 17, 2020 00:30
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The speed translation's "Murder Bullets" was an unintentionally great name Waiting for new chapters is starting to get painful, everything's about to hit peak and I can't wait
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Oct 17, 2020 00:52
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RealFoxy posted:Waiting for new chapters is starting to get painful, everything's about to hit peak and I can't wait
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Oct 17, 2020 00:54
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tbp posted:it doesn't even make sense bc the scabbards are all explicitly supposed to be strong as hell with some around the level of the emperor commanders and they're fighting 9v1 and loving furious and we all know there's going to be a moment where kaido goes "i acknowledge you" or some poo poo and beasts out on them still to come but for now i feel the same catharsis they do with every hit Yeah. I mean we know Dog and Cat can stalemate one of his Commanders without their moon power up, after all. It's not weird that a giant group of Supernova level fighters can fight Kaido.
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Oct 17, 2020 01:12
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RealFoxy posted:The speed translation's "Murder Bullets" was an unintentionally great name  No joke rereading the Official translation and seeing that it's "Slicing Rounds" made me mentally reevaluate how much damage it did to Kaido.
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Oct 17, 2020 01:28
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Guns don't murder people, bullets do.
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Oct 17, 2020 02:30
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I liked Oden a tonne generally and him holding his vassals up in the pot just put him way over for me, hell yeah moment.
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Oct 17, 2020 02:32
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Libra posted:Guns don't murder people, bullets do. I don’t think I really care for this Lasoo erasure tbh.
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Oct 17, 2020 02:55
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I liked Oden for all the reasons all his compatriots did, but at the same time it did feel a little exhausting how much the series seemed to bend over backwards to make him the best and raddest dude ever
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Oct 17, 2020 04:59
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Strelok604 posted:I liked Oden for all the reasons all his compatriots did, but at the same time it did feel a little exhausting how much the series seemed to bend over backwards to make him the best and raddest dude ever I view it as the foundation needed for why all these people would fight so hard 20 years after his death. It runs parallel to Luffy and his innate ability to inspire those around him.
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Oct 17, 2020 06:08
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Havoc904 posted:I view it as the foundation needed for why all these people would fight so hard 20 years after his death. It runs parallel to Luffy and his innate ability to inspire those around him. yeah it's just hte price to pay of having to cram that all into a a few chapters, relatively speaking. As opposed to luffy having the whole series
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Oct 17, 2020 06:10
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How long was the Noland flashback? That was much more effective
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Oct 17, 2020 06:21
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Havoc904 posted:I view it as the foundation needed for why all these people would fight so hard 20 years after his death. It runs parallel to Luffy and his innate ability to inspire those around him. But Oden's flashback itself still didn't land for me. I was not inspired by Oden. Maybe the flashback wasn't long enough, because I get Luffy and feel inspired alongside the crew when he's being inspiring, but didn't get that vibe at all from Oden. I just got the picture that other characters feel that way about him. The Norland and Fisher Tiger flashbacks took characters I didn't know anything about and made me feel a heck of a lot more about them than Oden's flashback did. Which is a shame, and I wish I felt more about Oden for the sake of getting more out of this arc. It's not too bad though because I can totally respect that his retainers had a very strong personal bond with him, and I can appreciate the story based on acceping their feelings.
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