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Okay, exhaust through the bumper when it's at face-level is dumb. That's a case where I'd rather put stacks on a "pickup".
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Oct 16, 2020 01:40
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Kodiak/Top Kick. We have 2 of these old rear end things at work (83'+84'?), and ours are that short. Very... "agricultural" is a nice way of putting it I guess. Also the manager that ordered those back in the day got some GRANNY-rear end rear end ratios too, we have to have them towed if they need to go out of the area for repairs or something.
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Pros: Not taller than a bro-truck. Nice mirrors. Great style. Great motor, tons of room in the bay too. Cons, the details. Frenched taillights I think? The fender things. The tailgate thing.
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Oct 16, 2020 03:41
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The tailgate is functional. The center dip lets you hook up to a 5th wheel, and the hinged center door lets you hook up to a gooseneck, both without dropping the whole gate. If you have to drop the tailgate, with most trailers you have a very narrow margin of error between stopping at the right spot and going too far and hitting the trailer. Then there's forgetting to put it back up and hearing the awful crunch soon as you make a small turn. Can't speak to the bumper exhaust passthrough, ha.
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angryrobots posted:The tailgate is functional. The center dip lets you hook up to a 5th wheel, and the hinged center door lets you hook up to a gooseneck, both without dropping the whole gate. If you have to drop the tailgate, with most trailers you have a very narrow margin of error between stopping at the right spot and going too far and hitting the trailer. Then there's forgetting to put it back up and hearing the awful crunch soon as you make a small turn. I get that, but it's ugly. They didn't follow the contour of the bed, and the center part hinges towards you to bang against the bottom of the tailgate and the license plate. Also the oilcanning and the poor fitment of the sheet metal against the frame. Would have been better to just make one with a valley in the middle as I see most 5-th wheel users use, it's not like you're tossing a load of loose anything in the back that needs that extra support anyway.
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StormDrain posted:Pros: Not taller than a bro-truck. Nice mirrors. Great style. Great motor, tons of room in the bay too. Taillights are stock. If by fender things, you mean the flares, I'm glad they have them rather than throwing poo poo everywhere. Could have done a better job, though. I'd go with smaller medium-duty wheels and tired to help alleviate that, myself. Tailgate thing, as noted, is functional, but would have been more clever if it opened *inward*, for the reason you said. For actual use, I'd probably remove some springs from the pack - a gooseneck trailer probably isn't going to be heavy enough to need the full capacity of the original truck, and it would improve the ride. Finnegan's (former, now) C50 ramp truck is a pretty good example of how I'd do it. Basically a 1-ton dually underneath, rather than full-on medium-duty.
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Oct 16, 2020 18:07
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Darchangel posted:Taillights are stock. I think the taillights themselves are stock, but don't they have chrome trim around them normally? That's what a quick google makes it look like, but I don't have any experience with an actual one. It looks like they've possibly painted the trim to match the body and then tried to blend it in with bondo maybe? Looks like there's bondo cracking on the passenger side. (edit: after some more looking, I honestly can't tell if they're stock, or modding them like that is just extremely common) Agreed on the flares, you need SOMETHING, but those don't look great. I wonder if you could grab the fenders from an actual dually or stepside box and graft them on lower on the bed to make it not look weird... probably have to resize the wheel opening. Darchangel posted:For actual use, I'd probably remove some springs from the pack - a gooseneck trailer probably isn't going to be heavy enough to need the full capacity of the original truck, and it would improve the ride. Would airbags be a terrible idea? Deflate them when you don't have a load on, pump them up when you need extra capacity. It's a cool idea for a truck I think, the person who built it just had to work with what they had/knew. 1000% cooler than yet another immaculately-clean brodozer on 24" rims with worn-smooth mud tires. boxen fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Oct 16, 2020 |
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boxen posted:I think the taillights themselves are stock, but don't they have chrome trim around them normally? That's what a quick google makes it look like, but I don't have any experience with an actual one. It looks like they've possibly painted the trim to match the body and then tried to blend it in with bondo maybe? Looks like there's bondo cracking on the passenger side. Nah. The basic models didn't have chrome back there. The ones that do have chrome, it just screws on over and around the taillights, and then there's a piece that shoots across the bodyline on the tailgate. He does have some cracked paint, though, yes. quote:Agreed on the flares, you need SOMETHING, but those don't look great. I wonder if you could grab the fenders from an actual dually or stepside box and graft them on lower on the bed to make it not look weird... probably have to resize the wheel opening. Dually pickups didn't exist, then, I don't think, even though 1-tons did, but I've seen dually conversions done using the stepside fenders. quote:Would airbags be a terrible idea? Deflate them when you don't have a load on, pump them up when you need extra capacity. That's pretty much what airbags are for, so yeah, that would be a good idea, and a huge improvement to the ride. That's pretty much what most modern trucks use, but back in the day, I guess they weren't reliable or good enough, so you get leaf springs set up for the maximum capacity, and God help you if you carry less. Google "chevy c50 pickup", and you can see quite a few of these conversions. And also note that they don't need near as much rear flare with the sock-sized wheels and tires. It also occurs to me that it would be pretty neat to put a Suburban body on one, even if less useful. (Google "Chevy C70 pickup" if you want to see the squarebody version, BTW. "Chevy C60 pickup" interestingly , gets you a variety.) People also use the medium duty/COE cabs from earlier trucks (and other makes, of course) to make interesting pickups or ramp trucks.
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There was definitely a C3500 dually pickup in 1971. I think what happened with the fenders is that he has to run adapters for the Alcoas, so the front fenders are stock plus the lip which is probably as wide as the adapter adds, and he fabricobbled the rears to "match".
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angryrobots posted:There was definitely a C3500 dually pickup in 1971. Dually, yes. Pickup, as in with a fleetside bed, no, I don't think so. Flatbeds only. Chevy dually pickups showed up in the squarebodies.
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I was thinking that I know I've seen them, but if this ad is to be believed, the pickup bed with fenders is a rare dealer add-on. Which is par for HD trucks until very recently so I could believe it. http://classicvehicleslist.com/chevrolet/113729-1971-chevrolet-1-ton-c3500-dually-pickup-truck-no-rust-2nd-owner-rare.html 
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Is there a thread where y'all can opine (and point and laugh) at a old car I'm currently thinking of buying? It is this:  A 1994 Buick Roadmaster. It has the LT1 V8. It has 200,000 km, and apparently has never seen winter (super important in Atlantic Canada, the rust death hell zone.) $3500. It is located in the middle of nowhere, and a friend is down for taking a road trip out to see it. Only problem: this place is so rural all the garages have closed thanks to the double whammy of covid and poo poo oil prices, so getting a mechanic to inspect it will take some doing.
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I love roadmasters. I want a 96 estate but I don't think it'll ever happen.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Is there a thread where y'all can opine (and point and laugh) at a old car I'm currently thinking of buying? Looks exactly like my coworker's. He just got it from his grandfather (who I think is in his 80s or 90s). No LT1 though, it's whatever the normal 350 was at the time. Still great, though I guess the AC is a little fucky.
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Godholio posted:Looks exactly like my coworker's. He just got it from his grandfather (who I think is in his 80s or 90s). No LT1 though, it's whatever the normal 350 was at the time. Still great, though I guess the AC is a little fucky.
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Krakkles posted:Wasn’t that the LT1? I know there’s a new LT1 which is something cool but my recollection back then was that it was just the 350 at the time. All '94 Roadmasters got the LT1 (it was the first year of the LT1 in that model). The '91-93 Roadmasters all had some other (much weaker) V8.
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Krakkles posted:Wasn’t that the LT1? I know there’s a new LT1 which is something cool but my recollection back then was that it was just the 350 at the time. All 1994 Roadmasters had the 260 horsepower LT1 variant vs. the 180 hp base 350 that was used in previous years. Edit: drat you!
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They are great cars, 1994 was a good year, bypass the antitheft with a resistor and make sure the water pump doesn't leak on the optispark and it will be a comfortable, reliable ride.
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SNiPER_Magnum posted:They are great cars, 1994 was a good year, bypass the antitheft with a resistor and make sure the water pump doesn't leak on the optispark and it will be a comfortable, reliable ride. Spoiler: The water pump either already has, or will in the future, leak on the optispark. It’s a fuckin’ fact of life. A ‘94 B body should have the later vacuum-vented version, but it’s still hilariously vulnerable to moisture-induced corrosion, especially if it sits for awhile. They’re more reliable if they get run frequently. I had 3 Gen IIs over the years. An aluminum-head LT1 in a Z28, an iron-head LT1 in a 9C1 Caprice, and an L99 in another 9C1. Ask me about my Stockholm syndrome.
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To go along with a recent theme: https://portland.craigslist.org/grg/cto/d/arlington-rare-1973-chevrolet-90/7215462292.html
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Yes expect to replace the water pump to be the road master. Also optisparks are expensive as hell unless things have changed. It looks like amazon has a bunch for 50 bucks now but not oem. Elephanthead fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Oct 17, 2020 |
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Ugh, just looking at that makes the fillings in my teeth want to fall out. Why bother having leaf "springs" at all just put a metal block in there 
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If the Roadmaster goon buys it and replaces the waterpump, its worth it to get the timing chain done at the same time is it not? 200,000 km is only 120,000 miles (for you american goons that know these cars) but Its one of those "while you're in there you might as well......." things ain't it?
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wesleywillis posted:If the Roadmaster goon buys it and replaces the waterpump, its worth it to get the timing chain done at the same time is it not? 200,000 km is only 120,000 miles (for you american goons that know these cars) but Its one of those "while you're in there you might as well......." things ain't it? If you don't have any reason to suspect that its damaged or stretched, not really. To get the chain cover off, you have to pull the crank hub and drop the oil pan, which I really loathe doing in-car. If you have the engine out already then yes go to town, but now we're talking about rattle-can-rebuilds.
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Thanks, good to know. Are there any other problem areas I should look out for?
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boxen posted:To go along with a recent theme: https://portland.craigslist.org/grg/cto/d/arlington-rare-1973-chevrolet-90/7215462292.html I know pointing out english mistakes is like pointing out stupidity in MSM op-eds, but I do like how this ad is saying "rare" sarcastically
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It's a boomer thing. Putting it in quotes like that (to them) means you're saying it out loud, emphasizing it. Used to see it in newspaper for sale ads and the like all the time.
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They're called "scare quotes" because OUR FISH ARE "FRESH" does not instill confidence.
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wesleywillis posted:If the Roadmaster goon buys it and replaces the waterpump, its worth it to get the timing chain done at the same time is it not? 200,000 km is only 120,000 miles (for you american goons that know these cars) but Its one of those "while you're in there you might as well......." things ain't it? You're probably thinking of overhead cam engines where the water pump is driven by the timing belt and sort of located in the space where yes, the standard advice is to replace both. An overhead valve engine isn't really set up the same way.
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Throatwarbler posted:You're probably thinking of overhead cam engines where the water pump is driven by the timing belt and sort of located in the space where yes, the standard advice is to replace both. An overhead valve engine isn't really set up the same way. I know. But IIRC, on most american OHV engines, you need to remove the water pump to do the timing chain anyway. I've done one or two myself over the years.
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Krakkles posted:Wasn’t that the LT1? I know there’s a new LT1 which is something cool but my recollection back then was that it was just the 350 at the time. His is probably a 93 then. It's not an LT1.
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angryrobots posted:I was thinking that I know I've seen them, but if this ad is to be believed, the pickup bed with fenders is a rare dealer add-on. Which is par for HD trucks until very recently so I could believe it. Those are squarebody (73-'87) dually fenders, so the ad is horseshit. edit: or disingenuous at best. He is, however, not wrong about the 6" extended (8' 6")bed. My dad has a '70 "Longhorn" 3/4 ton Chevy, and had a '72 GMC one. They're rare-ish. Also, curiously, the Chevy had leaf springs, and the GMC had truck arms and coils like the half-tons. The Chevy also has split rims, and a granny 4-speed on a 350, while the GMC was a 402/TH400. The Chevy also has 4.56 rear gears, so granny first can pull houses, but only at walking speed.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Is there a thread where y'all can opine (and point and laugh) at a old car I'm currently thinking of buying? Do it and swap in a manual.
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Darchangel posted:Those are squarebody (73-'87) dually fenders, so the ad is horseshit. edit: or disingenuous at best. I had a 67 with the granny gear and you could just hop out while it idled up the driveway in gear.
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BigPaddy posted:Do it and swap in a manual.  That is the plan
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Elephanthead posted:I had a 67 with the granny gear and you could just hop out while it idled up the driveway in gear. Even better, dad's has a settable hand throttle for farm stuff. Yes, I've used it as cruise control before. BigPaddy posted:Do it and swap in a manual. Nebakenezzer posted:
Good man.
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Darchangel posted:Even better, dad's has a settable hand throttle for farm stuff. Yes, I've used it as cruise control before. I like that.
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StormDrain posted:I like that. It's pretty neat. Just another matching knob below the choke knob on the dash. Pull out to where you want it, then twist to lock. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=296346  
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Did your dad's truck have a PTO?
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