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Gardeners remain AWOL, so I'm putting out feelers to other places. I realised that I need both a landscaper and a gardener (as well as a builder), so I've put out these emails to three of each type: quote:Hello, quote:Hello, quote:Hello, My criteria being: - Well reviewed - Local - Some evidence they'd taken on projects of this size before I'll have a list of checks for whoever we go forward with that I didn't ask of the last builder (because I didn't know any better).
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Jaded Burnout posted:Gardeners remain AWOL, so I'm putting out feelers to other places. Feel for you on the “not being able to get a response from tradesmen” front. I spent about 2 months chasing a known, good plasterer to do some work for me, and randomly bumped in to him on the street last week to hear he’s now booked out till December.
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Oct 18, 2020 15:07
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Interesting to see you looking at separate companies for landscaping and gardening, from my limited experience here in the US a landscaping company would also do the gardening such as it is (putting in the grass, plants, any sprinkler system if needed, mulch, stonework). Do companies tend to have different responsibilities for these areas in the UK and/or do you plan to have a gardener doing work on an ongoing basis to maintain what the landscaping company puts in?
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Oct 18, 2020 23:45
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tangy yet delightful posted:Interesting to see you looking at separate companies for landscaping and gardening, from my limited experience here in the US a landscaping company would also do the gardening such as it is (putting in the grass, plants, any sprinkler system if needed, mulch, stonework). Do companies tend to have different responsibilities for these areas in the UK and/or do you plan to have a gardener doing work on an ongoing basis to maintain what the landscaping company puts in? exactly what I was thinking / wondering
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Oct 19, 2020 06:53
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I don't have a lot of experience in this area, but from what I can see a landscaper is closer to a specialised builder. Groundworks, paths, patios, drainage, etc, while a gardener is more about planting and maintaining growth. Apparently the landscaper slang for gardener is "plantsman". Obviously some overlap, but https://www.thegardenersguild.co.uk/gardener_or_landscaper.html
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Oct 19, 2020 07:05
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Jaded Burnout posted:I don't have a lot of experience in this area, but from what I can see a landscaper is closer to a specialised builder. Groundworks, paths, patios, drainage, etc, while a gardener is more about planting and maintaining growth. Apparently the landscaper slang for gardener is "plantsman". You are also likely to find “gardener” in the Uk that’s just a guy who comes and weeds, mows and prunes stuff for you if you’re elderly.
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Oct 19, 2020 09:58
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Sarah Bellum posted:We're 1 week and 1 day into our landscaping project, and we're more than halfway there. We went with the first guy we saw because: It sounds like the entertainment I am getting here is the total opposites of your crew. You did well! Apparently this company had multiple recommendations via local facebook groups and a good review on facebook. lol JB - you should definitely go speak to some previous clients of whomever you employ! Its week 6 of "1 or 2" now and they have 1 labourer on site today. I reckon there is still at least 2 weeks of work left for them based on how much they actually get done when they have 3 labourers on site. War is beginning to kick off in the street because their spoil heap of mud has now escaped the garden, the grass verge and is now beginning to block the road and is getting everywhere. I'm almost prepared to bet that we have a visit from the council before the end of the week and that the landscapers walk off site and abandon the job and leave a mess that I also have to get involved in sorting out if I want to get my car into my own drive 
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Oct 19, 2020 13:33
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Tomarse posted:JB - you should definitely go speak to some previous clients of whomever you employ! For sure. Tomarse posted:Its week 6 of "1 or 2" now and they have 1 labourer on site today. I reckon there is still at least 2 weeks of work left for them based on how much they actually get done when they have 3 labourers on site. Yep that sounds very familiar. I'm hoping to break up the jobs a bit so there's less chance of that happening. Also see The Money Pit for "two weeks". Tomarse posted:I'm almost prepared to bet that we have a visit from the council before the end of the week and that the landscapers walk off site and abandon the job and leave a mess that I also have to get involved in sorting out if I want to get my car into my own drive rip
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Oct 19, 2020 13:41
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If we're keeping track of who's least busy / most responsive, two out of the nine have gotten back to me so far, and they're both landscapers.
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Oct 19, 2020 17:09
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Let's clean up these corners. They won't be visible, so I can get away with quite aggressive cut backs.  With that done, let's move on to cutting the other string that I marked up. Wait, I didn't mark it up yet? gently caress. OK, let's puzzle over how to do that.  Used a T square to transfer the marks over from the other string.  Then used the step template to mark the cut out. This is the inverse of the other string, because this time we're removing that material.   Very confused by the top and bottom, to be honest. I think this is right, but why are they offset?  Well, they offset because the strings are each sort of a slice of a platonic universal string, where the wood is positioned as a partial solid form, partial because we don't have wood wide enough (and would in some cases cut most of it off anyway). This means that the wood for a closed string and an open string are not positioned in the same space vertically. The cut string is slightly lower.   63mm lower in fact, in this case. So if we move the strings 63mm apart we see that the floor and header lines do actually intersect, but the closed string on the wall side will actually be a little further up than the open one, a fact which will be hidden by whatever lining I fix to the underside.   This was a good mental breakthrough, but my brain is just not geared up for manipulating things like this in 3D space, so I'll probably do a quick cardboard model to make sure I'm doing things right before I start cutting. I'm also strongly considering constructing the entire thing in situ, it feels like it would be easier than building it and then moving it, but maybe that's my inexperience talking.
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Oct 20, 2020 19:01
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I've never built stairs but I'd imagine it'll be nice not having to parkour your way up there.
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Oct 20, 2020 19:09
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Jaded Burnout posted:Let's clean up these corners. I’d be worried about having clearance to move it from where you are to the final position anyway - you’d certainly need muscular pals to get it done. Any reason why you’ve done for solid wood vs ply for this btw?
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Oct 20, 2020 20:48
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wooger posted:Any reason why you’ve done for solid wood vs ply for this btw? For which bit?
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Oct 20, 2020 21:17
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While dealing with an ongoing legal mess with the neighbours and drains (which I don't want to talk about), a package arrived from Germany. This was part of the order earlier this year, but they just started shipping.  It's a reusable workstation for use with the Shaper Origin, which means you can do things like work reliably on the ends of boards, or on smaller pieces, without having to do odd ad hoc clamping stuff or use up a bunch of tape.
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Oct 30, 2020 18:05
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Oh look a package from China Bit of a hint as to what's inside.  Meanwhile, craft project time, let's use a cheapo glue gun and some cardboard to mock up the hallway at 1:5 scale so I can check everything works right.                 There's not going to be a lot of space for reinforcing the join at the top, around 140mm, we'll just have to cross that bridge when I get to it, and probably use copious amounts of steel. Other than that, alles klar.
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Nov 1, 2020 18:39
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What is this? Stairs for ants? They have to be at least five times bigger than that.
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Nov 1, 2020 21:54
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Stants
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Nov 1, 2020 21:56
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Really taking that Cardboard Aided Design to a new level! Really neat.
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Nov 1, 2020 22:03
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The stringer that's not on the wall hanging off the underside of that landing looks real funny to me. Usually it would dead end into the ledger? Maybe I've misunderstood your whole staircase though-are the stair treads captured between the stringers or do they extend beyond the stringers like the two you have on your model. Eagerly awaiting the contents of the box from china labelled 'NUDETECH' 
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Nov 1, 2020 22:18
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How are you going to keep the insulation in?
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Nov 1, 2020 22:42
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theparag0n posted:How are you going to keep the insulation in? Didn't you read the post? He's got a glue gun.
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Nov 2, 2020 00:08
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:The stringer that's not on the wall hanging off the underside of that landing looks real funny to me. Usually it would dead end into the ledger?  Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Maybe I've misunderstood your whole staircase though-are the stair treads captured between the stringers or do they extend beyond the stringers like the two you have on your model. They are as in the model. Closed on one side, open on the other. Something I could do, I suppose, is pull the whole thing back from the header a little bit, if I have enough wood for it. Edit: Gonna try a v2 on this Jaded Burnout fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Nov 2, 2020 |
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Nov 2, 2020 09:26
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Version 2  Bringing it out means a bunch of room for fixings.  However, somehow I marked the distance to the wall wrong (see the new pencil line).  Granted it's only this nib wall (which shouldn't have been there but welp builders/architects loving suck)  So, yeah, every cm counts. Will probably choose something somewhere between the two.
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Nov 3, 2020 00:22
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The first one doesn't look quite as funny if the treads are going past the stringer. Second one definitely looks stronger? I think the top tread would normally be flush with the floor? I've never actually build real stairs in a house though so
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:The first one doesn't look quite as funny if the treads are going past the stringer. Second one definitely looks stronger? I think the top tread would normally be flush with the floor? I've never actually build real stairs in a house though so The finished floor isn't installed upstairs yet, so it's accurate to what's there right now.
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Nov 3, 2020 01:24
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Jaded Burnout posted:The finished floor isn't installed upstairs yet, so it's accurate to what's there right now. Soo, its been a while, you ok man ?
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Nov 25, 2020 19:26
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Klogdor posted:Soo, its been a while, you ok man ? Yeah, so, rough few, but getting on with bits and pieces. Met with a couple of landscapers, waiting on quotes. I've also been doing some work on my santee's gift, when I'm above the surface long enough. Prusa MK3S arrived yesterday. Unpacked it but haven't had the chance to use it yet.
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Nov 25, 2020 23:56
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After many many many hours of trialling various 2D and 3D drawing apps it turns out they're all horrendously expensive, horrendously licensed, or just horrendous. Or all three! In the end I'm just going to be submitting paper drawings of the outbuilding to the structural engineer, and they're going to redraw it in AutoCAD. Here's where I got to this evening. 
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Nov 30, 2020 00:50
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I assume you've tried sketchup? I've been using it for a while and never had any major complaints for my meager needs. A simple sketch like you provided is almost laughably easy
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Nov 30, 2020 02:40
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dreesemonkey posted:I assume you've tried sketchup? I've been using it for a while and never had any major complaints for my meager needs. A simple sketch like you provided is almost laughably easy Yes, that falls under "horrendously licensed" with a sprig of "always online". I used it when I did my first model of the house. It's wobbled a lot since they got bought, and I don't want another Fusion360 where someone offers something for free and then pulls the rug later.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Yes, that falls under "horrendously licensed" with a sprig of "always online". I used it when I did my first model of the house. It's wobbled a lot since they got bought, and I don't want another Fusion360 where someone offers something for free and then pulls the rug later. You could always use oldversion.com and get one of the previous download versions I guess? You'd lose access to the 3d warehouse, but not sure how much that matters to you. I also don't like the online version, I'm nursing along sketchup make 2017 I think.
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Yep, you can still download the 2017 Sketchup directly from Trimble and have access to some of the 3D warehouse. It makes getting plugins a bit fiddly but for basic architectural elevations it will still do the job.
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Nov 30, 2020 20:33
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My highly sophisticated sketching. It was around this point that I realised I'd actually scaled it (1:20) based on the width of the building, not the width of the site.  ]Redrawn at 1:30. Anyone feeling like it's a little "roof heavy"?  Yeah don't know where I went wrong there. Fixed here. It's a little odd doing perspective scaling in only one direction (for the skylights).  And here's the finished one (with identifying info cropped off).  I really should draw in dimensions in pencil rather than going straight to pen, as it would've been a bit neater if I could've adjusted them a bit. Sent off to the structural engineer, and if he's happy with it in general I'll do the floorplan.
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Sketching out the floorplan and I realised the true size of the spaces I roughly marked out for toilet/sink and a server room. 3x2m each. Replaced them with two 2x1.5m rooms that will be plenty large enough.
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Dec 3, 2020 15:42
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I think with all the windows/skylights/natural light, that will be a very pleasant space to work in. What direction is it facing?
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Dec 3, 2020 16:11
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South East.
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Dec 3, 2020 16:14
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While drawing up the floorplan it's occurred to me that now the building is 8m square, I don't need to vault the ceiling to have somewhere to store long materials. I can have normal trusses instead which I can only assume will make things easier.
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Dec 4, 2020 14:02
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1:40 floorplan. Highly sophisticated architecture.  Features pencilled.  Inking.  Done.  I notice that I've not put on the pipes and conduits on the right hand side, I'll have to add those.
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Dec 6, 2020 23:41
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Is the toilet not air-conditioned?
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Not after I'm done with it.
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