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VitalSigns posted:can't you just go to Russia and have some doctor there put you in a medical coma for a month so you don't have to experience the withdrawal
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Wark Say posted:Isn't that how Jordan Peterson ended up with brain damage? I mean, Trump's brain is already swiss-cheesed to poo poo so like 99% of the people might not be able to tell the difference. i'm pretty sure that's what vitalsigns was referencing
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Oct 18, 2020 03:47
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that would require Donnie to have foresight ,planning, and someother stuff to want to do a 1 month skip.
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Oct 18, 2020 04:50
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Also Jordan Peterson needed to get over his addiction because of his brand: addiction is a weakness and moral failing that he couldn't tolerate, and the only proper way to quit was to go cold turkey. Nevermind that he went into a medically induced coma for it. Meanwhile, Trump has no higher principle he feels like he should suffer for. He will do what he thinks is best for him at the moment, as he always has.
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Oct 18, 2020 06:09
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Morrow posted:Also Jordan Peterson needed to get over his addiction because of his brand: addiction is a weakness and moral failing that he couldn't tolerate, and the only proper way to quit was to go cold turkey. its simply weird that trump can literally do anything he likes for any reason, often beliefs at odds with his most devout followers, and they'll fall over themselves justifying it take vaccines. his constituents hate vaccines. but trump has zero problems with them, but in the lobbying between his antivaxxers and big pharma, the latter easily win
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FilthyImp posted:OH you want the Jorp? Ya ya My favourite line from the infamous Joose threads: "This stuff is like the ocarina from legend of zelda except when the warp sound plays you teleport directly to the ER"
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Oct 18, 2020 11:57
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Getting yourself off of the steroids Donnie is using apparently needs to be done with some care https://www.outsideonline.com/1914501/climbings-little-helper quote:Goodman and Johnson were horrified—four weeks on dex followed by a cold-turkey stoppage is enough to shut down someone’s adrenal system. No experienced mountaineer would self-medicate for such an extended period prior to a summit bid.
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Oct 18, 2020 12:25
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twerking on the railroad posted:Getting yourself off of the steroids Donnie is using apparently needs to be done with some care Trump going off steroids is going to be happening soon, which makes me wonder if he'll stop after the debates or after the election. I'd imagine if he goes off steroids and then loses would be quite a shock.
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Oct 18, 2020 13:02
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Young Freud posted:Trump going off steroids is going to be happening soon, which makes me wonder if he'll stop after the debates or after the election.
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Oct 18, 2020 13:18
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My mom has to take a very low dose steroid because of an autoimmune problem she developed in her early 70s so I know a little about this and I'm pretty sure that just taking large doses indefinitely would wreck some stuff. Do we even know that he's not already being or been tapered though? He's been about as comprehensible as usual at house recent rallies, hasn't he? Benzo comparisons don't make that much sense, aside from taking a shot to dunk on Petersen... I've withdrawn from benzos twice, no bueno but if you need to be on them it's quite possible to get off, just takes a long time. I've always been a little suspicious that Trump takes some benzo / adderall cocktail, but that's my own  showing
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Oct 18, 2020 13:24
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Paradoxish posted:Basically all the updates came from his people and he completely disappeared from sight once he was in the hospital. The tone was definitely "he's getting better!" but it was also laughably transparent because there wasn't so much as a picture of him. Trump really didn't follow the same course at all because he was at least well enough to be propped up for media events. I don't usually make it a point to look at Donald Trump for extended periods of time but I thought he looked like total poo poo at last week's town hall.
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twerking on the railroad posted:Getting yourself off of the steroids Donnie is using apparently needs to be done with some care Adrenal insufficiency will gently caress you up and requires corticosteroid replacement.
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Hi I was probably the goon talking about steroid (prednisone) withdrawal and hallucinations. The hallucinations were the first few days I was on steroids combined with sleep deprivation. They really gently caress with your mood and in severe cases can cause psychosis and hallucination. The kicker is we don't know how long Donnie was on steroids. I really really doubt he's still on them, that would be incredibly irresponsible of his doctors. Even if his head doctor is a bit of a toady, he has highly competent infectious disease docs on his team at Walter Reed. If I was a responsible physician I'd have him on steroids for a few days until we were sure he wasn't going to get really bad, then wean him off without letting him know or telling him he was going to come down from the steroid high. Just quietly lower the dosage over a few days. My understanding is you start running into withdrawal after like 10 days to two weeks of high dose steroids. Less than that you can just stop cold turkey and it's not a huge deal. edit: if he is actually still on steroids he's going to have a long miserable taper. But I think him looking and sounding lovely is just part of the recovery process.
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Fritz the Horse posted:that would be incredibly irresponsible of his doctors almost none of the public behavior that any doctor working with trump has shown has been responsible though
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Oct 18, 2020 18:21
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As much as I would love it for Donnie to be on a ventilator or shot full of steroids for three weeks I think the most likely scenario is he had moderate symptoms and was on steroids for a few days but stopped and isn't on them now. He's a whiny baby who got sick, panicked, and cannot be seen to show any weakness at all. It's a bit of a Streisand effect. He was sick but all the theater of not appearing in public for several days and dodgy reports from his doctors actually made it seem worse than it was. In order to create the illusion that he magically got cured with REGENERON and Dear Leader is in perfect physical condition and actually very young, they created so much confusion that people think he got way sicker than he actually did.
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Oct 18, 2020 18:26
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I'm so annoyed he didn't d*e
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Petey posted:I'm so annoyed he didn't d*e I really hoped he got very very sick to force some people to take the virus more seriously. I think the reality is him getting a little bit sick and disappearing for four-five days was almost as good.
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Oct 18, 2020 18:33
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Petey posted:I'm so annoyed he didn't d*e Particularly given he went on to do exactly what I worried he would: Downplay the experience and further the "its no big deal/a hoax" narrative.
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Oct 18, 2020 18:35
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I think the most likely scenario is that a man who is trailing in the Presidential election polls and who historically is desperately afraid of looking weak, is doing whatever it takes that he thinks makes him look big and strong, up to and including surrounding himself with doctors he can intimidate into letting him abuse prescription drugs that make him feel big and strong
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Oct 18, 2020 19:51
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I think the most likely scenario is that a man who is trailing in the Presidential election polls and who historically is desperately afraid of looking weak, is doing whatever it takes that he thinks makes him look big and strong, up to and including surrounding himself with doctors he can intimidate into letting him abuse prescription drugs that make him feel big and strong This is quite likely, but I dunno if we're going to see a big public crash from Trump (either from withdrawals or from extended steroid use). It's not implausible either of course, but I think we're all doing a lot of wishful thinking for him to have the worst outcome possible now that it's clear he's not going to eat poo poo from covid.
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Oct 18, 2020 20:02
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:but I think we're all doing a lot of wishful thinking for him to have the worst outcome possible now that it's clear he's not going to eat poo poo from covid. It's definitely this. They created so much confusion around the timeline and facts that everyone is assuming an outcome that matches their existing biases. We think Trump is a dead man walking kept alive only by steroids and video editing tricks, while his supporters think he was never that sick at all because covid is a chinese plot to cause jewish 5G socialism. The truth may not come out until the presidential medical records pass to someone else's control, or may not ever come out at all if the records are falsified or lost, and we just have to live with that. Back to 10-minute throttled posting in the USPOL thread.
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Oct 18, 2020 21:00
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:This is quite likely, but I dunno if we're going to see a big public crash from Trump (either from withdrawals or from extended steroid use). It's not implausible either of course, but I think we're all doing a lot of wishful thinking for him to have the worst outcome possible now that it's clear he's not going to eat poo poo from covid. Most likely the day after the election he just disappears for a month or so and the next time he makes a public appearance he just looks even more like rear end then usual.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:This is quite likely, but I dunno if we're going to see a big public crash from Trump (either from withdrawals or from extended steroid use). It's not implausible either of course, but I think we're all doing a lot of wishful thinking for him to have the worst outcome possible now that it's clear he's not going to eat poo poo from covid. It's absolutely not clear at all and I don't think it's wishful thinking that a fat greasy orange slob is going to eventually suffer some ill effects from the 1-2 combo of getting coronavirus and being hopped up on some steroids that are very bad in terms of withdrawal (either cold turkey or gradual weaning off). What it is, is that people got super hyped up hoping he'd croak within a week of getting it, and now that he hasn't people are going the opposite route and just assuming he's beaten it. Granted, this is Hell Year 2020, but I don't think he's anywhere near done with the 'rona or the 'roids just yet.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:It's absolutely not clear at all and I don't think it's wishful thinking that a fat greasy orange slob is going to eventually suffer some ill effects from the 1-2 combo of getting coronavirus and being hopped up on some steroids that are very bad in terms of withdrawal (either cold turkey or gradual weaning off). What it is, is that people got super hyped up hoping he'd croak within a week of getting it, and now that he hasn't people are going the opposite route and just assuming he's beaten it. Granted, this is Hell Year 2020, but I don't think he's anywhere near done with the 'rona or the 'roids just yet. i do think the roids are gonna make him even more of a prick at the next debate(if it happens).
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With 2020 as it is I fully expect them to turn him into a version of the Incredible Hulk. Bonus points if it's like what the Hulk was like at the start of Ultimate Marvel. Extra bonus points if the Republicans then try and pretend Hunter Biden ate Democrats and they have the emails proving it.* * Ultimate Marvel's take on the Hulk, at first, was that he was all of Banner's repressions not only inverted, but taken to the absolute furthest extreme other end possible. Banner didn't eat meat, ergo Hulk was a cannibal, amongst other things. Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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Oct 19, 2020 00:34
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i know this is wishful thinking at this point, but... https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1317976527028576258 does his voice sound off to anyone else?
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Oct 19, 2020 02:00
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Trump's past couple of rallies have featured him being incomprehensible even by Trump standards so I personally think it's too early to say he's completely over it, but yeah the time for him to croak from this has unfortunately passed.
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Oct 19, 2020 02:08
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He kinda sounds... his age now? I mean, he hasn't stopped being the same whiny-rear end crybaby, but now he actually sounds like a proper racist-rear end fox news septuagenarian grandpa.
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Oct 19, 2020 02:09
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Mr Interweb posted:i know this is wishful thinking at this point, but...
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Oct 19, 2020 02:13
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He still seems a little bit manic, both in terms of the degradation of his focus and sensibility during his speeches -- it's sometimes hard to read, because he's already a grandiose basketcase on the best of days, so progression of his delusion and rambling egotism are just a matter of steps up on a long staircase of existing intransigent mental dysfunction. But it's been there. He's been even more off kilter than usual. It's not done him any favors and not reversing people's exhaustion with him as a bombastic character. I hypothesize it's more likely that Trump has demanded to stay on the steroids than not. He was already showing cognitive and energy decline over the last few years, and steroids made him feel like he was on top of the world. The post-steroids period would make him look like a visibly exhausted, pained, dried out turd with hardly any energy to ramble.
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also lol at imagining he would try to cut this steroid habit after he loses the election dr feelgood always gets to stay. and he sure as hell wouldnt miss an opportunity to scream on tv how biden and the antifas are running the country into the ground during the lame duck session, before biden even gets inaugurated (i am of course assuming biden wins)
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Or in light of increasingly bad polls, he is going with his natural instinct to double down as hard as possible. Which means machine-gun rattling off of every Fox News or QAnon lie.
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Oct 19, 2020 05:52
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Pants Donkey posted:Or in light of increasingly bad polls, he is going with his natural instinct to double down as hard as possible. Which means machine-gun rattling off of every Fox News or QAnon lie. And Trump will bring it up constantly in the next debate. Biden's response must be to stop, turn on trump, and demand he explain exactly what he thinks his son did and exactly why that matters. He gets lots of shots of calm, "Yes, that is true, I'm fully aware of my son's problems but why does it matter? Explain it to me." And leave Trump as a blubbering idiot trying to make raving crazy nonsense statements trying to explain why. in other words, Joe should be cold and emotionless wrt the charges, make lots of statements about how he loves his son and is helping deal with his problems, and and again demand to know what the problem is.
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Deteriorata posted:And Trump will bring it up constantly in the next debate. hey, yeah, then he can tell him 'you can't just insult your way to the presidency, donald,' and the entire aaron sorkin audience will run up and high five him
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Deteriorata posted:Biden's response must be to stop, turn on trump, and demand he explain exactly what he thinks his son did and exactly why that matters. He gets lots of shots of calm, "Yes, that is true, I'm fully aware of my son's problems but why does it matter? Explain it to me." Absolutely, do not cede the offensive and let Trump blather on for minutes spewing ever mounting piles of bullshit. If Trump brings it up just wave your hand like you smell a stinky fart and pivot to who does Donald owe all that money to? Whose the real master of the US Presidency, the people? Or daddy Putins billions?
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Murgos posted:Latest polling shows that this story isn't impacting Biden at all. That his lead is still inching up day by day. I read a tweet yesterday that said something like, "Trump"s arguments must be working on me because I am not definitely voting for Hilary Clinton or Hunter Biden this year." It's amazing how Trump seems to have this one skill--manipulating the media--yet he frequently bungles even that fairly often because he's stupid in so many other ways. He's still prosecuting the 2016 campaign every time he mentions Clinton. You would think he'd have a better grasp on how to dick with the media about Biden. It's a stark reminder that he's not even very good at what he's supposed to be good at, and that he barely won (and lost badly in the PV) in 2016. He"s not a puppet master. He's a loving idiot, and now he's also on drugs that impair his judgment.
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Honestly a Trump that loses the presidency seems even more likely to stay on steroids. As president if he becomes a raving drug addict sooner or later someone's going to wrangle him in no matter how toady his inner circle is, if he's a private citizen no one will give a poo poo.
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