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Then of course you had the British and Germans POWs/"guests of the State" that were interned in the Curragh during WW2, which apparently consisted of hanging out, drinking, playing pool and shagging the locals https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/1999/apr/21/features11.g2 e: The Sonderkraftfahrzeug 250 ('special motor vehicle') was a light armoured halftrack, very similar in appearance to the larger Hanomag-designed Sd.Kfz. 251, and built by the DEMAG firm, for use by Nazi Germany in World War II.
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It's the hypocrisy that quite rightfully did her in, not the offence in and of itself. If she wasn't spending her time calling people out and grandstanding her own moral purity no one would have cared about the hot nazi tweet revelations.
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Honestly I'm shocked she stood down at all given how cool with it these obvious charlatans are and how willing to obfuscate away from her transphobia they are.
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sassassin posted:It's the hypocrisy that quite rightfully did her in, not the offence in and of itself. If she wasn't spending her time calling people out and grandstanding her own moral purity no one would have cared about the hot nazi tweet revelations. Unless she'd been left-wing
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Gonzo McFee posted:Honestly I'm shocked she stood down at all given how cool with it these obvious charlatans are and how willing to obfuscate away from her transphobia they are. Same, I fully expected her to just ignore it. It's like she didn't get the memo that hypocrisy in politics doesn't matter any more. The one thing I feel sad about is that the charge of anti-semitism is now officially just a weapon for inter-factional fights, which completely sucks. But I think we hit that point somewhere back when pronouncing Epstein wrong and re-tweeting an article from The Independent became evidence of Jew-hate. Best part so far is the current Youth Chair saying she only sent the message of support to "friends". Must've been a friend who immediately rat-hosed you by posting it on Twitter then.
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jabby posted:The one thing I feel sad about is that the charge of anti-semitism is now officially just a weapon for inter-factional fights, which completely sucks. But I think we hit that point somewhere back when pronouncing Epstein wrong and re-tweeting an article from The Independent became evidence of Jew-hate. For me, the anti-Semitic horseradish was the key
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Is joking about fit nazis anti semitic? I don't think it is.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Is joking about fit nazis anti semitic? I don't think it is. Not really but when you cast such a broad range of what you consider antisemitic with very harsh judgements and punishments you probably shouldn't go around talking about how you like a man in a Hugo Boss uniform.
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Guavanaut posted:Wouldn't Britain still have maps of at least where the most important things were (such as GPO buildings) from other quite recent events? I don't think the idea was to make going around cities any harder, since there would have been landmarks in the cities. But Ireland on the 40's had no real connected motor way road networks*. Going from one town to the next would have been incredibly confusing, particularly with the locals not co-operating with the invading forces. As always I think the idea was to make the invaders life more difficult over "if the Tans can't find the signs to get to Athy, they'll give up and go home." Hell we still don't have many linked motorways. As a kid in the 90's, going to West Cork for a holiday was like a 5 to 6 hour drive. Now with the Cork to Dublin motorway, it's about a 2 hour to 2 and 1/2 hour drive to get to Cork. Then another hour or so to go from Cork to West Cork.
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talking about which Nazis you'd like to gently caress is roughly a thousand times more antisemitic than pronouncing Epstein "Epshtein"
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OwlFancier posted:Is eluned a posh people name or just a weird modern name? Probably beaten but not caught up since my nanna nap - Eluned is a Welsh name. I have an Eluned on my FB friends but not this one!
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I don't even get the attraction they all just look like old timey people, they all loving look like that, they all have the slicked hair and wear suits, that's just how the world was back then, if you want that you don't need to go find loving nazis to declare your attraction for. Eichmann looks like bing crosby.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Is joking about fit nazis anti semitic? I don't think it is. Nobody thinks it is, just like nobody thinks retweeting an Independent article is anti-semitic. But if you want to hold people to that rigid standard where even tangentially related, somebody-might-possibly-find-this-in-bad-taste references to Jewish people, Nazis, Israel etc. is classed as a resigning offence then this is where we end up. If it helps she's also not sure whether transwomen are women, which is arguably a more valid reason for her not to be youth representative on the NEC than Nazi jokes.
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Ms Adequate posted:Honestly just find the nearest Auld Fella and ask him, you'll have to put up with a very long exposition on $LOCALHISTORY but he'll know where everything is. Invasion force defeated by anecdote about the time McCafferty's cows got loose.
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jabby posted:If it helps she's also not sure whether transwomen are women, which is arguably a more valid reason for her not to be youth representative on the NEC than Nazi jokes. Yes I was just about to agree with you on this from earlier. An actual viewpoint she has or i suppose has not taken about actual issues is much more relevant than some nazi nonsense.
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Just as it's been mentioned again, what was the deal with corbs pronouncing Epstein like that? Nerves at the debate or something? It seemed like such a weird thing to do considering the context of the flak he was getting.
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Guavanaut posted:*sprints into thread to yell about sharks and jets and falls over and lands on rear end*  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wugWGhItaQA
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mudskipp posted:Just as it's been mentioned again, what was the deal with corbs pronouncing Epstein like that? Nerves at the debate or something? It seemed like such a weird thing to do considering the context of the flak he was getting. He's spent most of his life around North London and has definitely heard that pronunciation more than the Americanised one.
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Probably because that's how someone more familiar with german than with weird americanization would pronounce it.
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Thank you, alphabet, for putting Luke loving Akehurst at the top of my NEC ballot. Anyway where's the list of not-poo poo candidates so I can get this sent and then cancel my direct debit?
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Oct 19, 2020 19:16
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https://futureweneed.com/preference/
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Ta muchly.
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mudskipp posted:Just as it's been mentioned again, what was the deal with corbs pronouncing Epstein like that? Nerves at the debate or something? It seemed like such a weird thing to do considering the context of the flak he was getting. everyone's already covered islington but further on that, he takes part in local religious observances (the Seder he was invited to at the start of the scandal was secretly filmed, iirc he does know how to pronounce at least the Yiddish for the ceremony) and has prominent jewish academic friends like most of the old-left do (his covid breach was Graeber's wake), so he's definitely herd "stein" pronounced correctly. To be more specific on Americanisation, the UK doesn't have quite the level of aversion to loan words the US does. It's unremarkable to pronounce cafe in any particular way, you'd absolutely say cleeque instead of click, etc. Idk how universal it is but when Einstein came up in school or UK TV it was always ein-schtine not ein-steen. It'd have been far weirder to deliberately mispronounce a relatively familiar name, even if the papers might potentially have missed it.
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OwlFancier posted:they all just look like old timey people, they all loving look like that, they all have the slicked hair and wear suits, that's just how the world was back then Weirdly young Stalin was the exception here, and would not look out of place amongst the hipster fuckboy crowd even today. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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ThomasPaine posted:Weirdly young Stalin was a the exception here, and would not look out of place amongst the hipster fuckboy crowd even today. Yeah he looks different but all the nazis just look like business or radio people from the time.
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OwlFancier posted:Eichmann looks like bing crosby. I enjoy your work on Only Connect. https://twitter.com/VictoriaCoren/status/1318168311968956416
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Excellent covid writeup on the FT: https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-global-data/ A kind of statistical summary of covid around the world since January
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Who are we going for for treasurer?
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forkboy84 posted:While I'm happy to see a centrist careerist get hosed, it is kinda a stupid thing to make someone quit a contest over. there was a bunch of terfery too
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notaspy posted:Who are we going for for treasurer? Darth Walrus posted:Don't think the official left slate has an opinion on the treasurer, but judging by the candidate statements, Reg Cotterill and Diana Holland both look pretty sound. Jalal Chaudry and Vincent Lo win the joint 'most intensely cringe statement' prize.
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steen stine or schtine chat: EinSTINE, FrankenSTINE, Brian EpSTINE, EisenSTINE, Just about every 'stein' you ever heard of in the UK is pronounced STINE. If you know any German, it would be 'schtine'. I saw an episode of CSI: NY not so long ago when they had a stein pronounced STINE so it's not even generic American pronunciation. Also, a stein (pron: Schtine) 
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Wait is jeffrey epstein actually pronounce steen? Like I wouldn't bother with the proper german in the UK but I have been pronouncing it stein.
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Is this slate definitely the best left-wing one? It's recommending Pidcock to me who is a known TERF.
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It’s ‘Kos’ you fools! You absolute dumbasses!
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:steen stine or schtine chat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxxSIX3fmmo
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WhatEvil posted:Is this slate definitely the best left-wing one? It's recommending Pidcock to me who is a known TERF. I'm not really very happy about that either but I guess the theory is that it's either her or someone worse and they are very worried about vote splitting. Up to you if you want to follow it.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:steen stine or schtine chat: Or you know, one of americas most famous authors John Steinbeck. Or pianomaker Steinway (literally Schteinweg)
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:steen stine or schtine chat: It changes up in surnames especially in America because the Yiddish pronunciation is more like shtayn rhyming with stain which then easily dropped over to steen Insert "it''s franken-steen!" joke here
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Darth Walrus posted:Don't think the official left slate has an opinion on the treasurer, but judging by the candidate statements, Reg Cotterill and Diana Holland both look pretty sound. Jalal Chaudry and Vincent Lo win the joint 'most intensely cringe statement' prize. Vincent Lo's answers to the labour LGBT network interviews are great The interview posted:10. Name at least one LGBTIQA+ socialist who inspires you, and explain what inspires you about them. cracking stuff vincent WhatEvil posted:Is this slate definitely the best left-wing one? It's recommending Pidcock to me who is a known TERF. gemma bolton's responses in the above interviews are solid. Tank pidcock if you want
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