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spunkshui posted:Its worth considering how hard it is to get a new PSU, and how important it is for your computer to turn on. My local stores don't carry much so I am just going to wait for the price drop around Black Friday. It's not like it's a dire need at the moment, I just know that components are more prone to failure over time and I am kinda surprised that my PSU is holding up as good as it is considered it originally used on a heavily overclocked 2500k back when I bought it. It was more for overhead with the 3080 stock if I have to get one of those 3 pin OC INSERTGAMERMARKETINGTERMS cards. I can wait until I get the 3080 before I pull the trigger on this. I am really waiting for the Fractal Design Ion + Platinum 860W to come back into stock in Canada because I did a build with one for a friend and their cables are next level good. Easy to do cable management and Fractal Design does cover Coil Whine under their 10 year warranty where most other companies will tell you it's something that can happen and tell you to suck their balls. CoolerMaster and Corsair come to mind when I dealt with this in the past.
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The most performance intensive task i do on my PC is culling and editing photos with Adobe Lightroom. Up until recently i ran LR off an SSD and the photos themselves off a 5400 RPM HDD. I was running desperately low on storage space so i ended up buying a Kingston A2000 1TB NVMe M.2. I moved my photos to the M.2. While LR was running somewhat slow in the past it did not bog down my pc but now LR is almost unusable. Everything on my pc grinds to a halt, i cant run anything else except LR if i want to do anything in LR. Youtube videos play sound but the video stands still, games will stutter to uselessness. I have been using this pc the same way for years (e.g. gaming on monitor 1, youtube or movies on monitor 2, and doing stuff in LR while waiting for things to happen in games in the case of MMOs). Nothing has changed on my pc lately except installing the M.2 and moving photos to it. I instantly noticed the PC behaving differently but i find it strange that the M.2 is the cause of this. What could be the issue here?
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So the HDD in my daily driver (i5-4210u laptop, still does everything I need) died. I just surf the web, torrent and use it as my Plex server. I picked up a Crucial BX500 off Amazon Au for a great price imo, thinking my use case wouldn't need anything special, so a cheap and cheerful SSD would be fine, but I googled "bx500 boot drive" and I saw a lot of Reddit posts saying not to do that. I really didn't want to spend too much on this old laptop, so I didn't drop the extra $25 on the MX500 or WD Blue, and I forgoed I get the cheaper 240GB MX500/WD Blue drives because I felt like I needed the extra space. How bad will the BX500 be for real? E. Save changes is not preview post. Kintamarama fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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Ineptitude posted:The most performance intensive task i do on my PC is culling and editing photos with Adobe Lightroom. Up until recently i ran LR off an SSD and the photos themselves off a 5400 RPM HDD. What motherboard/chipset? Sounds like the m.2 slot and the sata port are sharing a PCI lane
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I need a simple part recommendation. My roommate and I are getting a bit tired of playing musical chairs with memory on the SSD for game installation, and I'm thinking of just shelling out to get a second one dedicated solely for keeping games installed on. It doesn't need to be too big, probably just 500GB or maaaaybe 1TB. Is there an obvious standout for something that'd be a good addition to a slightly older (~3-4 years) PC that I just wanna fit more Steam games Motherboard is an ASRock H110M-ITX, if it matters. Edit: I'd love to spend less than $100, ~$50 being the dream, and if second-hand SSDs are A Thing, I wouldn't be opposed to that if there aren't any obvious risks aside from it possibly crapping out as soon as the warranty's up. The computer's not old old, it still works fine, but it's not some freshly-built beast, either. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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PMush Perfect posted:I need a simple part recommendation. My roommate and I are getting a bit tired of playing musical chairs with memory on the SSD for game installation, and I'm thinking of just shelling out to get a second one dedicated solely for keeping games installed on. It doesn't need to be too big, probably just 500GB or maaaaybe 1TB. Is there an obvious standout for something that'd be a good addition to a slightly older (~3-4 years) PC that I just wanna fit more Steam games WD Blue 1TB is on sale on amazon right now for $100. Frankly if you shop around at all you can find a TB for ~$100 without trying too hard, doubly so right now since people are gearing up their holiday sales. If it's just games and you're not worried about losing your precious data Patriot Burst is a cheap-ish company. I've got a 1TB SSD from them as my games drive right now. You can get them for ~$85 regular and IIRC I got mine last black friday for something like $50. I have no idea if they've got a reputation, but it's worked for me and just glancing online I'm not seeing horror stories about half of their drives failing after a few months.
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Im rebuilding my rig. Uhh wasnt there updated example comp builds for low-med-high end specs in the thread? Currently Im running: CPU: Intel i5 7600K RAM: 16G (forgot speed etc) MOBO: ASUS Prime Z270-A GRAPHICS: NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080 with only 8G RAM MEM: 500G SSD My system is currently choking a little and I think its the vcard RAM, and I want this to run CyberPunk 2077 without issue https://support.cdprojektred.com/en/cyberpunk/pc/sp-technical/issue/1556/cyberpunk-2077-system-requirements . It says it needs 6G of vcard RAM but I have 8 now and it seems to underperform. My lazy man plan is to build a system to the recommended specs for that game. Edit: Budget is 1.5k~ Gaj fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:WD Blue 1TB is on sale on amazon right now for $100. Frankly if you shop around at all you can find a TB for ~$100 without trying too hard, doubly so right now since people are gearing up their holiday sales.
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PMush Perfect posted:I need a simple part recommendation. My roommate and I are getting a bit tired of playing musical chairs with memory on the SSD for game installation, and I'm thinking of just shelling out to get a second one dedicated solely for keeping games installed on. It doesn't need to be too big, probably just 500GB or maaaaybe 1TB. Is there an obvious standout for something that'd be a good addition to a slightly older (~3-4 years) PC that I just wanna fit more Steam games 59 bux will reliably get you a great 500 gb drive; https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0786QNS9B without a problem. And there are definitely 1TB options right around the 100 dollar price point: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#t=0&f=3&A=800000000000,1500000000000&sort=price&page=1. If you're willing to be patient and watch deal tracking sites like /r/buildapcsales or the Wirecutter deal feeds or even just pick a few drives from companies you trust or whatever and set camelcamelcamel alerts, you can definitely find 1 TB closer to the 80 dollar price point sometime between now and Christmas. Chevy Slyme fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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Gaj posted:Im rebuilding my rig. Uhh wasnt there updated example comp builds for low-med-high end specs in the thread? You are literally above the "recommended" specs. Probably won't be able to turn raytracing on, but you should be able to run everything at 1080p without any problems. If you want to turn ~everything~ on, get in line for a 3070 or 3080.  PMush Perfect posted:Is installing a second drive hard? I'm a dumbass and it's been a while since I popped open the case for anything but dusting. They're plug-n-play: attach the SATA cord and a power cord and it should be good to go. Just need to format. I've been lazy and not even mounted them before: they just sat in the case (don't do this).
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Gaj posted:Im rebuilding my rig. Uhh wasnt there updated example comp builds for low-med-high end specs in the thread? What's your monitor resolution / refresh rate? Depending on what games your playing the weak link may well be your CPU, some newer games are having issues on only 4 threads. You really shouldn't be having any problems related to vram.
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For the absolute cheapest, I'd recommend a Team GX2 500GB for $49 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NRMXWHW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_-MKJFbG8RF1GK It's not a very well-known brand but it is a very solid drive. If you wanted to pay a little bit more, you can get a Western Digital Blue 500GB for $60 at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073SBZ8YH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_DPKJFbV6NX6X6 If you can stretch the extra $10 I'd go for the Western Digital, but either drive will do just fine as a game drive.
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Gearman posted:For the absolute cheapest, I'd recommend a Team GX2 500GB for $49 on Amazon: Honestly I'd recommend just going the full TB. It's loving amazing just how fast you grow into a new HD.
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Some Goon posted:What's your monitor resolution / refresh rate? Depending on what games your playing the weak link may well be your CPU, some newer games are having issues on only 4 threads. You really shouldn't be having any problems related to vram. All I know is that my system has been stuttering more and more over the last few months. Games like State of Decay 2, Frostpunk, and even ONI are starting to stutter if I play more than 1 for an hour, worse if I switch games. Im assuming this is a RAM issue. My screen res is 2560x1440 and yes I would like to turn everything to the max so my eyes can bleed.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Honestly I'd recommend just going the full TB. It's loving amazing just how fast you grow into a new HD. Oh absolutely. I just wanted to throw some budget-conscious options out there as well. I would definitely recommend the 1TB, if possible, especially with games like COD taking up 200+ GB by itself.
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Gaj posted:All I know is that my system has been stuttering more and more over the last few months. Games like State of Decay 2, Frostpunk, and even ONI are starting to stutter if I play more than 1 for an hour, worse if I switch games. Im assuming this is a RAM issue. Have you run any benchmarks? I've got a similar system to you except a Ryzen 2700x instead of your i5 and a gtx1070 and I get zero stuttering on State of Decay 2 or Frostpunk at 1440. You really shouldn't be having problem running those games with that system. They're not exactly crazy performance-wise.
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Ill give a benchmark a go to see if theres anything that seems to struggle. Any suggestions for that or utility programs that may identify the problem? And yes I make sure to turn off all the pornhub tabs on chrom off before I play and the stuttering is still going on.
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Sorry, I'm not sure if I should post this here or in the SFF/ITX thread, but....I'm thinking about upgrading over the next month/in black friday sales and I kind of like the idea of a Zen 3/3080 mini-itx gaming build! But I only started researching itx stuff recently and haven't really looked at parts or anything in a few years, and I feel a little lost on the whole, so I'd really appreciate advice. What country are you in: USA What are you using the system for? Gaming, occasional streaming and photoshop, browsing/everyday stuff What's your budget? $2000ish, but $800 of that is earmarked for a 3080 if they ever come back in stock If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? 1080p 60hz right now, but I'd like to get a 1440p/144hz monitor eventually? CPU: probably a 5800x or maybe a 5600x if the benchmarks look good? ($300-450) CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 ($60) Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($250) Storage: Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($150 but I imagine it'll be cheaper around Black Friday) Memory: 16gb (2x8gb) Corsair Vengeance LPX from my current desktop, though i might upgrade if 2x16gb gets cheap enough Video Card: EVGA FTW3 3080, if they ever come back in stock PSU: Seasonic SS-860XP2 860w* 80+ Platinum power supply from my current desktop *I found an ATX mounting bracket for the nr200p on Ebay, but if that doesn't work I'll just buy a Corsair SFF PSU? Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR200P Mini ITX Desktop Case ($100) Do those parts look good? The Strix had the best reviews for an x570 mini-itx motherboard on Newegg when I looked, but would it be good or should I just get something like the Asrock B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX instead? (Or something else? All the B550 mini-itx motherboards I found looked like they had kind of mixed reviews. )If I have a 6700k right now, would a 5800x or a 5600x probably be enough of an upgrade to be worth the money or should I wait until the new Intel chips come out next year? Is a mini-ITX gaming PC just a bad idea in general? I really like the idea of a much smaller gaming PC (my current case is a CM K280), but this is my first time looking at something that isn't standard ATX so I'm kind of nervous. Ningyou fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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Ningyou posted:Sorry, I'm not sure if I should post this here or in the SFF/ITX thread, but....I'm thinking about upgrading over the next month/in black friday sales and I kind of like the idea of a Zen 3/3080 mini-itx gaming build! But I only started researching itx stuff recently and haven't really looked at parts or anything in a few years, and I feel a little lost on the whole, so I'd really appreciate advice. using an ATX PSU in an SFF case is going to cramp anything and cause you pain - especially with a big honking GPU like a 3080. It's possible, but you'll need to triple check your measurements and you're better off just getting a new PSU. The other thing I'd call out is the mobo - there's very little reason to do an x570 itx board. The main advantage of x570 over b550 is that you get more PCIE4, but on an ITX board, you get the PCIE4 to your GPU and a PCIE4 to your first m.2 and where exactly do you expect the rest of them to go...? You don't have more pic slots that they could go to, sooooooo.... There are some x570 boards with a specific feature advantage - namely there's an Asrock board with thunderbolt which is the only one of it's kind, but otherwise, the x570 itx boards and the b550 itx boards are all basically swimming in the same pool of "this board does everything right except for the one specific thing that is incredibly stupid about this particular board". Lucky for you, the NR200 doesn't have a USB-C port on the case. Which means you don't need a USB-C header on the board. Which is the one incredibly stupid thing about the Gigabyte B550 ITX board (it doesn't have one). But in all other respects it's the cheapest board out there and runs the coolest according to some testing. tl;dr, get the gigabyte b550 board it's the best choice for that case easily and it's the cheapest to boot. Edit: this is the official CM numbers for using an ATX bracket for the PSU: quote:3D PRINTABLE ATX PSU BRACKET tl;dr, using an ATX PSU means giving up your top mount front fan, or running a GPU under 240mm in length (read, not a 3080). And the specific PSU you have isn't just any ATX PSU, it's a long boi. It ain't gonna fit, I don't think. Chevy Slyme fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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vanilla slimfast posted:What motherboard/chipset? Sounds like the m.2 slot and the sata port are sharing a PCI lane motherboard is ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming, Socket-1151 Chipset is the Z270 part of the name iirc? How do i know if they are sharing a PCI lane? I tried reading the manual but can't find anything warning against this, but im not really sure what i am looking for either Ineptitude fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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So I just put together a new system, bringing over my old graphics card and PSU and I'm having some intermittent crashing. I first noticed when trying out 3dmark when it hit the CPU test. It ran the first three GPU tests fine, but crashed on the CPU test twice now. It even crashed when it loaded Windows after one of the crash reboots. Ryzen 3700x 16gb 3600 CL16 Crucial Ballistix and I've loaded the XMP so it's running at that. RX 570 8gb It's a brand new win 10 install on a new m.2. I didn't notice any crashing or odd behaviour while installing and setting up, only when I started to put the system under some load in 3dMark. My gut is that it's either RAM or CPU. So now I want to stress test the RAM and the CPU more to see what's going on, but before I do further troubleshooting, what's a good logging tool that logs to file so I can go back and look at it after a crash? I'm wanting to capture the temps of different components (CPU, Mobo, GPU, etc) fan speeds, power draw, etc hambeet fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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Actually, maybe it could be the PSU? The PSU isn't too old (4-5 years) and it's 750w, but I'm wondering if it's struggling to keep up with the 3700x when it flexes. The PSU was fine with my previous build (i5-6600) but I think the 3700x draws a lot more power than that ever could.
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hambeet posted:Actually, maybe it could be the PSU? The PSU isn't too old (4-5 years) and it's 750w, but I'm wondering if it's struggling to keep up with the 3700x when it flexes. The PSU was fine with my previous build (i5-6600) but I think the 3700x draws a lot more power than that ever could. I wouldn't suspect the PSU since the ryzens are pretty low wattage. Should be more than enough even with a 3080 really. I would check temps with hwinfo, maybe the CPU is getting a little too spicy. Stock cooler or did you put on a different one? Also run memtest on the ram for starters.
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Yeah, a stock 3700X has a peak power draw of like 88 watts or something. It's not stressing any functioning PSU by itself.
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Yeah I jumped the gun it seems. It’s looking like it’s the ram on its default XMP profile of 3600 CL16 as it crashed memtest three times around the same test. I’ve just turned xmp off and it’s back at 2666, and the system seems stable. 3Dmark worked fine. Memtest I’ve just gotten past the part it crashed at, but I’ll leave it go for a while I think. How do I go about working out the best settings for my ram? Is there a tool or calculator?
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hambeet posted:Yeah I jumped the gun it seems. There's a Ryzen DRAM calculator that seems pretty popular with lots of videos on youtube explaining how to use it. e: It's just called "Ryzen DRAM calculator" in case that wasn't clear.
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Lol, thanks. I guess I should have at least googled that. In my defence I was mid memtest when I wondered if there was such a tool. Edit: were my expectations unrealistic in thinking I could just plug and play the ram kit I bought? The ram was on the mobo qvl. hambeet fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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No, ram is generally just plug-and-play. If it's not hitting the numbers on the box you have grounds to return it.
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If they wanted to be weasels they'd say XMP is technically overclocking so it's not technically guaranteed it will work, and maybe blame the motherboard or something, but I would just say it doesn't work and RMA it if you don't want to go down the rabbit hole of playing with memory settings to find where it's stable.
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I'm planning to get a new PC soon (basically once zen3 benchmarks come out and I decide what I want). Reinstalling all my software and setting things up right seems like a giant PITA - is it possible to just take my boot drive and stick it in a new PC and have everything work?
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sean10mm posted:If they wanted to be weasels they'd say XMP is technically overclocking so it's not technically guaranteed it will work, and maybe blame the motherboard or something, but I would just say it doesn't work and RMA it if you don't want to go down the rabbit hole of playing with memory settings to find where it's stable. But if it was on the qvl list, don't they test at the rated speed?
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Suburban Dad posted:But if it was on the qvl list, don't they test at the rated speed? Yes. In theory they could try and say your CPU has a bad memory controller or something but I don't see that happening. They're selling what's on the box, trying to weasel out of it would be bad PR. Excepting things like Zen1 that just had a lackluster memory controller architecturally.
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Qwertycoatl posted:I'm planning to get a new PC soon (basically once zen3 benchmarks come out and I decide what I want).
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I’ll defer to the experts but mg personal experience is “yeah but it can get weird.” About a year back I did a cpu/mobo/ram refresh and just moved the boot drive over with no other changes. It worked. There was a lot of detecting new hardware etc but at the end of the day I had it running. Still poo poo was just kind of wonky in hard to pin down ways and after a month or so I just reinstalled Windows. Gave me plenty of time to back my poo poo up, export bookmarks, etc though.
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So probably better to start with a fresh copy of Windows and then move over the files that you need?
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hambeet posted:Lol, thanks. I guess I should have at least googled that. In my defence I was mid memtest when I wondered if there was such a tool. Did you reseat the ram? That might be all it needs. I’d do that and memtest w/xmp on before doing an RMA.
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FlamingLiberal posted:So probably better to start with a fresh copy of Windows and then move over the files that you need? This is always the right answer unless you’re really in some kind of a rush.
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