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danbanana posted:MARVEL DO A SPORTS-MANGA-STYLE X BOOK YOU COWARDS They did one about a teenage girl at a tennis academy. It's called "15 Love" Only three issues though.
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Dawgstar posted:I would unironically love a book that's just the Krakoa Softball League. Yeaj, but in the grand XMen tradition each softball game must also contain Xavier gaining or losing the ability to walk.
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Oct 17, 2020 01:55
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danbanana posted:MARVEL DO A SPORTS-MANGA-STYLE X BOOK YOU COWARDS Didn't realize Gripweed got a new account.
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I'm trying to think of a way to make Money Pitch work with an X-Men character and just can't
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danbanana posted:MARVEL DO A SPORTS-MANGA-STYLE X BOOK YOU COWARDS X Games no wait a minute
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Oct 17, 2020 06:22
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Didn't Chuck Austen do a baseball manga? Give him an X book!
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Oct 17, 2020 07:58
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he's too busy being a showrunner for She-Ra
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Alaois posted:he's too busy being a showrunner for She-Ra The cancelled show he had nothing to do with?
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Open Marriage Night posted:Didn't Chuck Austen do a baseball manga? Give him an X book! Two, actually. One was the porny Hardballs and the second was Boys of Summer. While I've neve read the former, the latter was a college-based romantic comedy involving baseball that made one believe Austen didn't really understand baseball, romance and possibly even college. I was re-reading an old ComicsAlliance Ask Chris about Austen and I forgot how fascinating his career trajectory was. Start off doing semi-autobiographical porn, jump to penciling the Little Mermaid, get that weird War Machine miniseries that was black and white and then boom one of the biggest comics ever with Uncanny. That Austen went from being the guy who wrote in a script 'Warren Worthington bangs barely-legal Paige Guthrie in the air while her mom and the X-Men look on' to working on She-Ra is wild.
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Skwirl posted:The cancelled show he had nothing to do with?  ??? He worked on Steven Universe too. Animation has been his field ever since he left comics.
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Blockhouse posted:
Before and after, he was working on King of the Hill back in 1997.
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Blockhouse posted:He worked on Steven Universe too. Animation has been his field ever since he left comics. It's also kind of funny he went from Tripping the Rift to stuff like SU and She-Ra.
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Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask, but I'm reading Morrison's New X-Men run and there's a part I'm confused about: I know that Marvel made their writers change things so that there were two Xorns and Magneto was never Xorn or whatever, but if I understand correctly for a time right after publication, the whole "Magneto was just pretending to be Xorn" thing was canon. But in the Annual we see Xorn has a big rear end glowing star head and nearly blows up the planet by doing some weird sun stuff right after he gets released. Is the original intent was for Magneto to be Xorn, how did he do all that? I don't know anything about magnets or the sun so I guess I might be missing something obvious, but I also suspect this is just something you're not supposed to think about too much.
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fadam posted:Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask, but I'm reading Morrison's New X-Men run and there's a part I'm confused about : As for everything else, you could probably quibble with all of the false-memories/psychic blocks at play to dupe Emma Frost, but we're basically taking a couple of bad guys' word that Xorn's head is a sun that is going to explode the planet.
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Magnetism.
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Like, I can buy him using magnetism to fake all the stuff like removing the Sentinel nano-virus from everyone's blood to pretend like he has healing powers, and maybe the issue where he goes to the Mutant projects and tries to heal the big lizard mutant guy is just him doing deep cover, but I don't get how you reconcile him looking like this knowing what we know: I feel like I'm being the fat guy who gets mad about rib cage xylophones in Itchy and Scratchy but I think this is a pretty big thing to miss when you're writing a complex story about someone faking an identity.
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fadam posted:Like, I can buy him using magnetism to fake all the stuff like removing the Sentinel nano-virus from everyone's blood to pretend like he has healing powers, and maybe the issue where he goes to the Mutant projects and tries to heal the big lizard mutant guy is just him doing deep cover, but I don't get how you reconcile him looking like this: Open Marriage Night posted:Magnetism. X-Men!
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Maybe Magneto could explode his head all along but didn't want to wear it out.
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I mean, he takes his helmet off, there's a telepath there, and she doesn't pick that he was Magneto. That annual essentially ruins the "reveal", painting a picture that in fact Morrison wasn't planning it from the start and decided halfway through to do so. On a recent re-reading, I decided to skip the annual exactly to keep the illusion intact. Because, yes, Magneto infiltrating the X-Men hard enough that he even had the Chinese language implanted in his mind, only to get controlled by a weird parasitic entity that was spread via drugs that he decided to try "just in case" he needed the extra boost, and then he gets very confused and goes on a murderous rampage in NY, is something that tickles my fancy because the whole thing is ridiculous but not entirely unbelievable. Saoshyant fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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How Wonderful! posted:Maybe Magneto could explode his head all along but didn't want to wear it out. "It's a great trick...but I can only do it once."
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He was using his magnetic personality to make them think he's someone else. Also the story in the mutant projects shouldn't be taken as a thing that actually happened, since it was told by Xorn to Xavier who couldn't read Xorn's mind, so you have a very unreliable narrator in retrospect.
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Endless Mike posted:He was using his magnetic personality to make them think he's someone else. That's a good point. Some kind of crappy art aside, I thought this was a really good read. What are the other evergreen X-Men runs? I know Claremont stuff is supposed to be good but idk where to even start lol.
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Hear me out: two helmets? Also for what it's worth, reading between the redacted bits in Morrison's X-Men pitch (reprinted in the backs of various collections of the series) he hadn't come up with Xorn specifically but a new mutant alternately referred to as EXPERIMENT X and THE MAN FROM ROOM X (which is the title of Xorn's first appearance) plays a big role and was always intended to be secretly MAGNETO. So I think arguing that it wasn't a fair-play 'mystery' is very valid, especially based on that first appearance. Claiming it was a self-retcon/something Morrison came up with on the fly isn't very valid. I will say this is the same pitch that famously included Colossus and when he was told Colossus is dead, he reworked it to include Emma Frost on the team instead. There was obviously some reworking of the overall plot once Emma was slotted in, but Xorn's first appearance was early enough that maybe having three psychics on the team instead of just two messed up the early stages of the Xorn stuff? Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Oct 20, 2020 |
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fadam posted:Like, I can buy him using magnetism to fake all the stuff like removing the Sentinel nano-virus from everyone's blood to pretend like he has healing powers, and maybe the issue where he goes to the Mutant projects and tries to heal the big lizard mutant guy is just him doing deep cover, but I don't get how you reconcile him looking like this knowing what we know: He injected an army of fireflies with trace amounts of metal so he could make them fly around his head, obviously! 
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JordanKai posted:He injected an army of fireflies with trace amounts of metal so he could make them fly around his head, obviously! You'd easily buy my lies If ten million fireflies Reversed the earth's poles as I fell asleep
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Edge & Christian posted:I will say this is the same pitch that famously included Colossus and when he was told Colossus is dead, he reworked it to include Emma Frost on the team instead. I'm gonna reread this just to mentally replace Emma with Peter in all the scenes. I bet it gets better.
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fadam posted:What are the other evergreen X-Men runs? I know Claremont stuff is supposed to be good but idk where to even start lol. Honestly? Giant Size X-Men #1 and then start reading. Claremont isn't the writer straightaway but I don't think that there's a ton of issues before he comes on and it's the start of a 17-year magnum opus. New Mutants and Excalibur (only through #67) are also masterworks and stand on their own pretty well as I recall.
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fadam posted:What are the other evergreen X-Men runs? I know Claremont stuff is supposed to be good but idk where to even start lol. "God Loves, Man Kills" is still probably the best distillation of the core X-concept and holds up very well outside of some uncomfortable language. Any of the "big" stories Claremont did (Dark Pheonix, Days of Future Past) mostly hold up on their own, without a ton of other context (though there will be some things that are weird because of other plots he had in there). I'm a sucker for Rick Remender's Uncanny X-Force series. Jason Aaron's Wolverine and the X-Men series is great, though it gets interrupted a couple times with crossovers. Whedon and Cassiday's Astonishing hasn't aged great, imo, but is still a fun X-romp. Also: House of X/Powers of X. It's only been a little more than a year since they redid everything and while it definitely helps to have a bunch of x-knowledge, I wouldn't say it was necessary. It introduces everything that the current books are doing. It also loving rules rear end.
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rantmo posted:Honestly? Giant Size X-Men #1 and then start reading. Claremont isn't the writer straightaway but I don't think that there's a ton of issues before he comes on and it's the start of a 17-year magnum opus. New Mutants and Excalibur (only through #67) are also masterworks and stand on their own pretty well as I recall. Claremont didn't write Giant Size, but he is the writer of Uncanny #94 which was the first issue after Giant Size and the first new issue of Uncanny X-Men in half a decade. I would also just start with that (Giant Size #1 then Uncanny #94), X-Men is famous for having a lot of confusing crossovers, but that didn't start to be a thing until the mid 80's or so, so you've got like 100+ issues to read before you need to worry about that.
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danbanana posted:"God Loves, Man Kills" is still probably the best distillation of the core X-concept and holds up very well outside of some uncomfortable language. Is Kitty Pryde the only X-Men character to use the N word? (Twice)
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Skwirl posted:Claremont didn't write Giant Size, but he is the writer of Uncanny #94 which was the first issue after Giant Size and the first new issue of Uncanny X-Men in half a decade. Yeah, I didn't mean to imply he was but if you're going to start with the Claremont run I wouldn't skip it for anything. Skwirl posted:Is Kitty Pryde the only X-Men character to use the N word? (Twice) I sure loving hope so.
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rantmo posted:
I thought maybe there'd be some ill advised extreme 90's comic where Bishop or someone used it in a "what's up my ...." sense.
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Skwirl posted:I thought maybe there'd be some ill advised extreme 90's comic where Bishop or someone used it in a "what's up my ...." sense. Not that I can recall and though it's been a few years since I read the entire X-line, I'm confident something like that would have stuck out.
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Skwirl posted:Is Kitty Pryde the only X-Men character to use the N word? (Twice) In Canon? Probably. But you know Logan was racist af for his first 50 or so years.
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wolverine was never a racist you bastard
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Alaois posted:wolverine was never a racist you bastard Are there any comics about him fighting with Captain America during WW2. I know they were both there and I think it's been established he at least worked with Fury occasionally during the war, but I don't know beyond that.
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Alaois posted:wolverine was never a racist you bastard Wolverine said he hates Serbia. Because he is Albanian.
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The first two major X-centric crossovers-- "Mutant Massacre" and "Fall of the Mutants" are really self-contained and if you want to just read UXM and nothing else you'll be able to grasp both events just fine. The more confusing element tbh is that Claremont was interested in having a consistent little universe of recurring side characters and making guest-appearances fit so sometimes the X-Men will just casually refer to stuff that happened in Spider-Woman or wherever or have a Carol Danvers supporting character pop up, but you learn to just roll with those. "Inferno" and "X-Tinction Agenda" are much more like modern "events" and do expect the reader to follow the plot through several books. Luckily if you Comixology Unlimited, the Inferno omnibus is free and X-Tinction Agenda is eminently skippable.
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Alaois posted:wolverine was never a racist you bastard Rich 19th century Canadians were certainly raised to be accepting all colors and creeds. I'm just saying a white dude born in boonies in the 1880s or whatever had a 98% chance of believing some loving terrible poo poo for at least part of their lives. Skwirl posted:Are there any comics about him fighting with Captain America during WW2. I know they were both there and I think it's been established he at least worked with Fury occasionally during the war, but I don't know beyond that. The Lee Issue (you know the one) has him and Cap fighting Hydra in Madripoor during the war. Hydra was definitely a Nazi organization at that point. But I will point out that killing Nazis doesn't make you NOT racist. Lots of racist people killed Nazis.
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