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I think the first weekly PPV for TNA featured a little person jacking it in a trash can.
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Oct 20, 2020 23:26
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Eat My Fuc posted:I think the first weekly PPV for TNA featured a little person jacking it in a trash can. Yes, this was the only TNA PPV my parents agreed to buy.
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Oct 20, 2020 23:37
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I ordered a depressing number of those weekly ppvs. Lol.
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Oct 20, 2020 23:51
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I had friends who got them and could have watched for free but even at 19 or whatever my time was already worth more than that to me.
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JUNGLE BOY posted:There’s also the Zero Fucks Friday thread in r/SquaredCircle where people unleash the rage they’ve been holding in all week about how mean people are to WWE. I used to trawl those threads for nuggets to post here but it just became to repetetive. Just the same exact posters making the same exact posts. Though fun scuttlebutt, the guy who used to make the threads got his account banned from reddit for constantly dm-ing people death threats so he created a new account because he just needed to continue owning the smarks with his thread. If you go through my post history in this thread you can see some people who are very Not Mad about Cody and Mox.
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Eat My Fuc posted:I think the first weekly PPV for TNA featured a little person jacking it in a trash can. Close, it was week 7 or 8.
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Oct 21, 2020 00:15
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Eat My Fuc posted:I think the first weekly PPV for TNA featured a little person jacking it in a trash can. https://mobile.twitter.com/impactwrestling/status/1304192269667442688?lang=en
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Oct 21, 2020 00:22
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Hellblazer187 posted:I ordered a depressing number of those weekly ppvs. Lol. Yeah, same here. I was duped by Double J!
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Oct 21, 2020 00:35
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I was super bored of the WWE and TNA looked so different and new! My friend and I bought only one which was headlined by America's Most Wanted vs XXX in a ladder match, I think!
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Oct 21, 2020 00:48
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To add to what MRT said: I'd have to dig around to see when it started, but once monthly (and eventually quarterly) PPV buys nose dived and plateaued to a steady audience of the same few people, Meltzer always reported that it hovered around 8,000 buys. (And someone who would know has indicated to me that Dave's Dixie era PPV buy data/estimates/whatever tended to be startlingly accurate, especially since he got it before they did.) So yes, there were almost certainly entire calendar years where 12 TNA PPVs drew less total buys than any of AEW's quarterly PPVs today.
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Oct 21, 2020 00:51
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How it started / how it's going https://twitter.com/willcooling/status/1318719063284219906 https://twitter.com/willcooling/status/1318730996313980930 Some people can't understand that saying "Matt Sydal sucks poo poo, no one should hire him" might be a controversial statement that others may disagree with and proceed to lose their mind.
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Oct 21, 2020 02:53
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i do appreciate rovert saying "actually i would simply be hiring the next orange cassidy"
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Oct 21, 2020 02:56
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Alaois posted:i do appreciate rovert saying "actually i would simply be hiring the next orange cassidy" Always on the hunt for the next guy in his mid-30s who would obviously never leave his well paying shoot job to work for some money mark.
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Oct 21, 2020 03:12
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Sounds like Will Cooling needs to cool off!!!
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Oct 21, 2020 03:35
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Seams posted:Sounds like Will Cooling needs to cool off!!! gently caress I wish I'd used that line before he finally blocked me, 20 quote tweets after deciding I was a troll.
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Oct 21, 2020 03:44
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Did they even sign Sydal? I assumed he was on a per-appearance deal.
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MassRafTer posted:gently caress I wish I'd used that line before he finally blocked me, 20 quote tweets after deciding I was a troll. You could always do the HIT THE BRICKS GOOFY route and set up a burner account just to say it. I did check to see if @OffCooling was available but it's not, however @WillCoolingOff is!
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So it's agreed, we get Will Cooling a job at Firestone tires, then send MRT down there with a shitton of shrimp...
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History Comes Inside! posted:Did they even sign Sydal? I assumed he was on a per-appearance deal. I don't think he's signed but he's probably closer than Cardona ever was.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Did they even sign Sydal? I assumed he was on a per-appearance deal. There are no indications he has been signed. And frankly if you can have a wrestler like this on a per appearance deal it's perfect. He's respected, the average fan has some familiarity with him, he is willing to lose and not be a problem, and he's a good wrestler. You have someone who can give prospects a good match, who can make your stars look good and who you can slot into random matches for the Dark content mill. Why wouldn't you want that?
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His super lovely acting is also very amusing on BTE
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STAC Goat posted:God drat, that dude's twitter feed is one for the books. Not any more. *poof*
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From wredditquote:John Silver will be some internet darling until BTE Fans losing interest and dropping him for some other short term hype object Literally always viewing what works in AEW through a broke brain WWE lens
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Oct 21, 2020 16:35
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john silver has been an internet darling for like a decade
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I liked John Silver when he first appeared in Chikara around 2012, if only because my first assumption was that Frightmare had been banging out the roids while on the injury list
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Oct 21, 2020 17:47
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https://twitter.com/StewartReigns/status/1319098911739576322 a good ol' wholesome bad take for you, thread. have a good one
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The same company that put on the Boneyard that people went wild over and the Firefly Funhouse that less people went wild over but many still tried to call revolutionary and high art. https://twitter.com/JustinLaBar/status/1319278124794667015 Wild persecution complexes.
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I do think there’s a legitimate argument that AEW’s built up more credibility with fans to be able to take a weird swing like that, whereas WWE does not have that available to them. That segment doesn’t exist in a vacuum and you can’t just carve it out of the context of AEW and graft it on to Raw and expect the same reaction.
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loving wild a rovert tweet I agree with
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:I do think there’s a legitimate argument that AEW’s built up more credibility with fans to be able to take a weird swing like that, whereas WWE does not have that available to them. That segment doesn’t exist in a vacuum and you can’t just carve it out of the context of AEW and graft it on to Raw and expect the same reaction. I also think there's something to be said for character consistency. Like that was weird but its keeping entirely within character that Jericho and MJF would do that to amuse themselves. So I think its easier to swallow because they're just fuller characters. That comes through consistent storytelling and characterization, which is a huge flaw of WWE.
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:I do think there’s a legitimate argument that AEW’s built up more credibility with fans to be able to take a weird swing like that, whereas WWE does not have that available to them. That segment doesn’t exist in a vacuum and you can’t just carve it out of the context of AEW and graft it on to Raw and expect the same reaction. Its all about trust: if people trust you to end up doing good in the end then they'll tolerate some bullshit while if they don't they won't. I also it also can work the other way round though: if people care about your promotion and expect it to be good then when you aren't people won't be happy; while with WWE no one has any positive expectations so they don't really care. The last thing you want is apathy: which is increasingly what WWE is getting. If you do a bad job its a good sign when people are like "WHY DID YOU DO THAT!!!" since they care: when the reaction is "well its just what they do" then that's a terrible sign.
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https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1319309374569971712 I love VoW (where my 10 dollar tier homies at) but yeeeesh. The takes, they're too hot.
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IceAgeComing posted:Its all about trust: if people trust you to end up doing good in the end then they'll tolerate some bullshit while if they don't they won't. That's pretty much it. If AEW does something weird I know they know what they're doing. WWE? They don't. Hell, the sketch has a good example of that with the setup. They understand wrestling so they understood they could set up expectations with the staging and then go against those expectations by literally pulling the curtain away.
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There are also way too many factors in play where you could take the same thing, put it in WWE, and watch it fail. The tweets mentioned some of those already, but there's also: - Outdated references - Commentators laughing audibly the whole time - Commentators telling you how great and funny this is - Doing different versions of the same bit the following few weeks in a more hamfisted way because people enjoyed the original - Eventually punishing the people involved in the original when the subsequent attempts at recreating the magic don't take off as well There's just no reason to trust WWE to do something good on purpose. Most of the poo poo that they do that is enjoyable and fun is either accidental or the 1-in-100 exception to all of their rules.
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1319309374569971712 I don't know what VoW all but seeing this and then you saying they're good makes me think less of you. This is a very bad series of tweets. They're literally comparing it to a public execution.
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Vince MechMahon posted:I don't know what VoW all but seeing this and then you saying they're good makes me think less of you. 
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"I really enjoy these guys who compare a wrestling segment to watching a person be killed. Please don't think any less of me for really liking a bunch of stupid assholes."
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1319309374569971712 How, how would the total viewership jump based on people watching along with people who were already watching the show?
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the bad opinions are coming from INSIDE the thread!
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