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goddamnedtwisto posted:TBF though the dude turned out 30-odd books - if I do 30 posts and only 2 of them are "meh" I'm loving *overjoyed* at that strike rate. 41 just in Discworld, thank you very much. I'm starting on the tenth right now, so far I'd consider four of them solidly skippable.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:44
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Don't be so negative. It just means electoralism is doomed. Also (and somehow not contrary to what I've just said) - peanut- posted:It's important to remember that any other Labour leader would be 20 points ahead
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Oct 21, 2020 17:45
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Jesus christ almighty https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1318947095412355081
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Oct 21, 2020 17:45
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"so imagine how much worse it is now", right?
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Oct 21, 2020 17:47
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"More people are so crushingly poor that our system recognises them to be entitled to the small provisions we offer" seems like it's a thing a cartoon villain would say
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Oct 21, 2020 17:50
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This entire Free School Meals controversy feels like a clearly marked open manhole that the tories continue to stoicly march into.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:52
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JustaDamnFool posted:This entire Free School Meals controversy feels like a clearly marked open manhole that the tories continue to stoicly march into. And it's not even that expensive in the grand scheme of things
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Oct 21, 2020 17:53
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JustaDamnFool posted:This entire Free School Meals controversy feels like a clearly marked open manhole that the tories continue to stoicly march into.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:54
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I enjoy the idea that the conservatives' best defence is "we can't be better than labour at anything" And their voters apparently also agree. Really struggling to move away from my hypothesis that tories just think pain and suffering is good.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:54
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JustaDamnFool posted:This entire Free School Meals controversy feels like a clearly marked open manhole that the tories continue to stoicly march into. Well from their perspective almost no one is criticising them let alone stopping them from doing anything they don't want to - why stop now? The answer to the question is usually "Because serious rioting and uprisings start kicking off from all the problems you create and visibly don't fix." so that'll be pretty loving cool.
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Oct 21, 2020 17:56
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"its not the governments job to stop you dying" is a long held belief in britain and has morphed over the years into "its immoral for the government to stop you from dying because then you wont learn a lesson" its pretty much the fundamental divide between labour and the tories, even the blairites so yeah it doesn't faze their base much, and the "this did happen under a labour government y'know!" is a good enough gotcha, even though the obvious argument is "we weren't in a one in a century pandemic"
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Oct 21, 2020 17:58
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lol just got this email from Sadiq:quote:Dear Comrade Fakename, Looks like someone thinks Andy Burnham is making him look bad.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:01
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JustaDamnFool posted:This entire Free School Meals controversy feels like a clearly marked open manhole that the tories continue to stoicly march into. and it's not like they haven't been willing on state hand outs to the catering trade this year. between massively overpaying for catering surpluses to be delivered as food parcels to shielding people, and eat out to help out that's surely more already than paying for school meals over the xmas break would be. but those two were one offs and they're that scared of setting a precedent for future school holidays that they can't back out of.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:01
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Surely the better argument is "that's why I'm asking a conservative government to fix it, that's why we have other governments"
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Oct 21, 2020 18:01
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you are jumping to conclusions massively there you don't have to be suspicious of any ill intent to ask that. "what is the meaning behind your many tattoos" is just kind of thing you ask just out of curiosity, or just to make conversation. like if you'd just met, and were asking about the kind of background info that you'll write into the presenters script about the guests. Spangly A posted:this was spotted instantly and his answers were disproven instantly, I'm not suggesting familiarity with deep nazi lore, I'm suggesting the media should be able to write things that pass an internet bullshit detector long enough to air the show they all just signed off on thousands of people saw the clip when Sky tweeted it and some of them noticed immediately. you can bet a lot more never noticed the particular tattoo or didn't realise the significance of two fat ladies. but only a handful of people met him and decided to put him on the great British woodworking off. several orders of magnitude more eyes are more likely to spot something just by weight of numbers. it's a simple unfortunate mistake. not some big conspiracy to get nazis on the telly Jakabite posted:88 being a Nazi thing is not that arcane a piece of knowledge to have. You don’t have to be terminally online to know one of the single most famous Nazi symbols in modern history. stev posted:Why is a show about woodworking on the history channel anyway?
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Oct 21, 2020 18:02
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https://twitter.com/yougov/status/1317126424587833344 No crosstabs on their site, which is a pity Still - that support is pretty narrow and the reason this is starting to be a government headache is that the threat of Tory rebellion is serious
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Oct 21, 2020 18:04
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do C4 still make that shoreditch tattoo fixers show? there could be a way they can salvage this 🤣
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Oct 21, 2020 18:13
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When I see 88 all I think of is the speed of a delorean. Were the back to the future films made by secret nazis!?!?
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Oct 21, 2020 18:18
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I don't care if this is USPOL: https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1318951111240286208 Cohen's British, so let's link it there.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:18
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ronya posted:https://twitter.com/yougov/status/1317126424587833344 Imagine being a Labour voter that doesn't think that the Government should provide food to hungry children.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:20
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What would a tory rebellion even entail? What would its goals be? You're not gonna get a tory rebellion in favour of redistribution or public spending I've heard the idea floated but I don't know what the point would be
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Oct 21, 2020 18:21
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Imagine being a Labour voter that doesn't think that the Government should provide food to hungry children. Maybe they've tried the dinners?
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Oct 21, 2020 18:21
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Imagine being a Labour voter that doesn't think that the Government should provide food to hungry children. Pretty sure MPs can vote for themselves.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:22
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stev posted:I don't really want the inexperienced, overworked, minimum wage intern to be sacked for the gently caress up. There's no way a highly paid, experienced tellyman didn't watch and unquestioningly approve the footage before it was Tweeted. It's totally possible a highly paid & experienced person approved this in my own experience working in media circles, the intern, involved or not, will be the one fired of course.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:26
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NotJustANumber99 posted:When I see 88 all I think of is the speed of a delorean. The first film at least *is* pretty racist, so maybe?!
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Oct 21, 2020 18:32
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Imagine being a Conservative voter.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:33
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Imagine being a Labour voter that doesn't think that the Government should provide food to hungry children. Rachel Reeves you mean?
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Oct 21, 2020 18:36
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Cerv posted:
One of  The Totenkopf (or Death's Head, still used by the Chelsea Headhunters of Football Factory fame), the SS lightning bolts and the Swastika probably top it, but 14/88, or just 88, are notable for how they only gained currency after the fall of the Nazis. I'm conflicted about Borat. On the one hand I think the movie is almost certain to be really loving funny, with a lot of right wing shits made very uncomfortable during its filming. The Giuliani thing is ace. On the other hand I still feel sort of bad for Kazakhstan and can't help but feel like it's also kinda racist? It's definitely racist isn't it? 
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Oct 21, 2020 18:36
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Imagine being a Labour voter that doesn't think that the Government should provide food to hungry children. They voted for Keir
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Oct 21, 2020 18:36
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Jakabite posted:It's definitely racist isn't it? Nah, his depiction of Kazakhstan as a backwards shithole where they all gently caress their sisters is totally not racist. https://twitter.com/GuardianHeather/status/1318966834922749952 Sir Haircut is going to force to apologise isn't he? On the upside I don't think he can sack Rayner from her deputy leader job. gently caress me, is this how the right felt when they were rooting for Tom Watson?
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Oct 21, 2020 18:39
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ro5s posted:They voted for Keir labour voters is not the same set of people as labour party members
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Oct 21, 2020 18:40
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Guavanaut posted:Imagine being a Conservative voter. Not liking the where this JOI is going.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:42
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Guavanaut posted:Imagine being a Conservative voter. Not just as a stunt No need for public goods Just be a complete oval office
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Oct 21, 2020 18:47
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TheRat posted:Jesus christ almighty https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1318947095412355081 not only is this shameless even for the Tories but it's not even true, Rashford was 12 when the Tories won the 2010 GE
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jabby posted:Nah, his depiction of Kazakhstan as a backwards shithole where they all gently caress their sisters is totally not racist. The single most uncomfortable I've been in my adult life (well it was at uni but) was when I was on a bus with a bunch of Kazakhstani coursemates and some of my British friends started quoting obscene Borat jokes at them, without apologizing or anything, despite them being visibly uncomfortable and doing their best to ignore it. Dunno what came over them they were usually quite decent about this stuff. Kazakhstan is actually kinda cool, it's a mix of Islamic and Soviet culture which is very odd, but also socially progressive by Muslim-majority country standards. e: Like these are some random pictures when googling for news stories from Kazakhstan:   You wouldn't think that's from an authoritarian Muslim-majority country. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Oct 21, 2020 |
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Private Speech posted:The single most uncomfortable I've been in my adult life (well it was at uni but) was when I was on a bus with a bunch of Kazakhstani coursemates and some of my British friends started quoting obscene Borat jokes at them, without apologizing or anything, despite them being visibly uncomfortable and doing their best to ignore it. Borat has infected popular culture to the point where his parody "national anthem" for Kazakhstan has been played for a gold-medal-winning Kazakhstani athlete at a medal ceremony, presumably because it comes higher in the YouTube rankings than the real version. Imagine winning gold for your country and being rewarded with a song about having the cleanest prostitutes in the region. Personally I'm shocked at such bigotry from a comedian previously known for *checks notes* a character based on black stereotypes, and a character based on gay stereotypes.
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Oct 21, 2020 19:11
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Someone in Brazil on the corona drug trial has died. Might have just been hit by a bus though.
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Oct 21, 2020 19:11
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A song about throwing Jews down wells: comedy gold from a beloved entertainer
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jabby posted:Borat has infected popular culture to the point where his parody "national anthem" for Kazakhstan has been played for a gold-medal-winning Kazakhstani athlete at a medal ceremony, presumably because it comes higher in the YouTube rankings than the real version. Imagine winning gold for your country and being rewarded with a song about having the cleanest prostitutes in the region. I wouldn't be surprised if a massive chunk of the population thought it was a made up country.
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