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I read an article about Eric Johnson in a mid-90s Guitar Player that was full of audiophile nonsense. "Guitar cables are directional" was probably the least ridiculous thing he believed.
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Yea, when I was a kid I remember I was incredibly disappointed that Page Hamilton's pink ESP wasn't some anti-macho stance but a sincere belief it gave him a better tone. So you're DEFINITELY not cool now and a confirmed simp to boot lol.
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Oct 22, 2020 02:21
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Anime Reference posted:I read an article about Eric Johnson in a mid-90s Guitar Player that was full of audiophile nonsense. "Guitar cables are directional" was probably the least ridiculous thing he believed. Was that the one where it was claimed he could tell the difference in battery brands in his pedals?
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Oct 22, 2020 02:28
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well why not posted:i really don't understand how you can obsess over tone wood and resonance and sustain etc. while the best, most popular musicians almost never baby their guitars and obsess over that stuff. Pickups and strings, sure, but I've never seen an interview where some ~ guitar god ~ gets into that stuff. It's just such a disconnect. eric johnson claims he can tell the brand of 9 volt battery in his pedals by sound alone
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Oct 22, 2020 02:30
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Those people haunt me. "Why doesn't it have a battery clip? Battery toanz!!!!!!"
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Oct 22, 2020 02:31
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The Muppets On PCP posted:eric johnson claims he can tell the brand of 9 volt battery in his pedals by sound alone I can do that by taste
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Oct 22, 2020 02:33
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Yea, when I was a kid I remember I was incredibly disappointed that Page Hamilton's pink ESP wasn't some anti-macho stance but a sincere belief it gave him a better tone. So you're DEFINITELY not cool now and a confirmed simp to boot lol. Then again, he's also like 60 so who the gently caress knows.
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Oct 22, 2020 03:30
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The thing about his chops being bad is an old jazz player false modesty shtick.
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Oct 22, 2020 03:39
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No, I mean like gear-wise. I've seen him play in too many side-gigs/clinics to not know he's a phenomenal guitar player chops-wise, but like, when it comes to dialing poo poo on amps/pedals and whatnot.
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Oct 22, 2020 03:48
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Eric Johnson 9V thing is BS btw:
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Oct 22, 2020 03:53
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Wark Say posted:No, I mean like gear-wise. I've seen him play in too many side-gigs/clinics to not know he's a phenomenal guitar player chops-wise, but like, when it comes to dialing poo poo on amps/pedals and whatnot. I think he's full of poo poo but it's all in fun obviously. He and Steve Fryette have been joined at the hip for decades. Concatenation posted:Eric Johnson 9V thing is BS btw: Even if it wasn't if you spend any time watching him interact with people you realize he's just supremely chill and is like "hey maybe this could be happening I dunno" and, of course, this point is missed by supremely online guitar weirdos. Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Oct 22, 2020 |
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Oct 22, 2020 04:05
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I want to believe that famous guitarists once in a while get together and brainstorm absurd audiophile bullshit rumours to intentionally spread to see where people finally go "wait, no, you're making up" and call them on it. "I can tell the brand of battery in my pedals by the tone" fits that kind of absurdity.
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Oct 22, 2020 10:45
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Huxley posted:Flea is 58 years old. https://twitter.com/flea333/status/1308069742062624768
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Oct 22, 2020 14:31
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One of the most interesting things I got from the Flea auto-bio (it's good) was the fact that John Frusciante was/is apparently this completely whimsical and fully committed artist in the most prototypical sense. I think the quote was something like "John had no practical handle on money or responsibilities; he played guitar and he played it well - that's John." Once the guy got hooked on dope, he melted down quickly and his L.A mansion became a squat house for hobos and they took him for all he was worth. Flea recognized that he's the only one who remotely gave a poo poo about him and basically went to the house just before John was going to die, put a guitar in his hands, pointed him at a stage, and got him going again.
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Oct 22, 2020 14:44
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Anime Reference posted:I read an article about Eric Johnson in a mid-90s Guitar Player that was full of audiophile nonsense. "Guitar cables are directional" was probably the least ridiculous thing he believed. Eric "I can hear the difference between a half dead duracell battery and a three quarter charged energizer battery in this pedal" Johnson. Also thread lord and saviour Steve Vai has a thing where the guitar body and guitar neck need to have the same resonance when given a knock (before assembly), otherwise the whole thing will sound off when put together.
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Oct 22, 2020 20:39
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Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:Eric "I can hear the difference between a half dead duracell battery and a three quarter charged energizer battery in this pedal" Johnson. Also thread lord and saviour Steve Vai has a thing where the guitar body and guitar neck need to have the same resonance when given a knock (before assembly), otherwise the whole thing will sound off when put together. Yeah but Steve Vai also admitted in an interview about EVH that Eddie once picked up the entire Vai rig and it sounded like EVH and not Steve Vai So in conclusion the tone was in your hands all along, not your $10k guitar!
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Oct 22, 2020 20:42
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Shugojin posted:Yeah but Steve Vai also admitted in an interview about EVH that Eddie once picked up the entire Vai rig and it sounded like EVH and not Steve Vai That he did. Quite a few people have said the same. Good point with EVH too. His guitars (prior to getting endorsement deals) were mongrels cobbled together like a mad scientist (hence the nickname Frankenstien for his original Black and White, then later covered with Red superstrat concoction). A huge amount of guitar players praise Eddie's tone but somehow forget the body was a basswood 'second' boogie body with a knot in the wood when they want to wade into the 'tone wood' nonsense. And yeah, its mostly in the fingers.
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Oct 22, 2020 20:47
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The neck is the penis of the guitar so it follows that it's the most important thing to consider.
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Oct 22, 2020 22:08
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Get a Fireman and be Mr. Two Dicks (These are wonderful guitars btw)
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Oct 22, 2020 22:23
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I'm coming into this thread from years spent in the cycling thread, am I right that guitars are just like bike frames? People talk endlessly about exactly what kind of material (steel, carbon vs. wood, etc.) they're made out of but in the end it really doesn't actually matter very much at all and you should just use what you like?
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Oct 22, 2020 22:31
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frogbs posted:I'm coming into this thread from years spent in the cycling thread, am I right that guitars are just like bike frames? People talk endlessly about exactly what kind of material (steel, carbon vs. wood, etc.) they're made out of but in the end it really doesn't actually matter very much at all and you should just use what you like? 
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Oct 22, 2020 22:32
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it kinda matters a little with acoustic guitars but not as much as size and how they're constructed. and even then the differences are so minor almost nobody who wasn't also a guitarist would ever notice
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Oct 22, 2020 23:41
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frogbs posted:I'm coming into this thread from years spent in the cycling thread, am I right that guitars are just like bike frames? People talk endlessly about exactly what kind of material (steel, carbon vs. wood, etc.) they're made out of but in the end it really doesn't actually matter very much at all and you should just use what you like?
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Oct 22, 2020 23:42
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Some similarities between the two communities.
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Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:
 Also, if someone starts regalling you with the wonders regarding Gibson and their legacy and yadda-yadda, you answer with "real Gibson guitars are still made in Kalamazoo Michigan. They just call themselves Heritage. Assbutt" (And then they poo poo their pants and everybody claps for you. Please clap)
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Oct 22, 2020 23:49
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Sora = Affinity 105 = Modern Squier Ultegra = Fender American Dura Ace = Fender Custom Shop Relic Campagnolo Record on a crazy Italian frame that doesn't shift right = Gibson Custom Shop
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Oct 23, 2020 00:14
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Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:Get a Fireman and be Mr. Two Dicks (These are wonderful guitars btw) That Joel McHale can really shred
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Oct 23, 2020 00:23
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Does the cycling world have people that blow tonnes of money on one bike, ride it for 5 minutes and then put it away in storage for 10 years before trying to sell it on, though? Cause that’s a whole subgenre of guitar dude
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former glory posted:Sora = Affinity Winning the Tour de France on a poo poo department store bike to the chagrin of the monied riders = Danelectro
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Oct 23, 2020 00:43
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Where does my $200 Schwinn mountain bike fit into all this?
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Oct 23, 2020 03:46
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those sub-$200 firefly/glarry/xaviere/whatever chinese guitars with surprisingly good build quality everyone nuts themselves over
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Oct 23, 2020 04:57
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I had a stupid expensive Les Paul once that was the only Les Paul I ever liked. That's more damning to the other Les Pauls I've played than the stupid cost translating directly to quality. I eventually sold it and because it was a special model with an obvious serial number, I got to watch the guy who bought it try to sell it for a profit on reverb, then take it back to the place I had consigned it, then back to trying to make a profit on reverb. He probably would have been horrified to know that I had taken it on the bus multiple times to gigs.
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Concatenation posted:Does the cycling world have people that blow tonnes of money on one bike, ride it for 5 minutes and then put it away in storage for 10 years before trying to sell it on, though? Cause that’s a whole subgenre of guitar dude Yeah, if anything there's more of them. Also if you guys wanna see some top tier tonewood shite get into folk banjo. There's tons of things which objectively do change their tone - like strings, bridge, head, tonering construction - and yet the whole community is old men arguing about walnut vs maple or whatever. Also they all think you can't buy a playable banjo for under $1500.
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Oct 23, 2020 09:18
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I'm pretty sure if you showed up at a classical guitar forum with a $2000 Cordoba everyone would be like "well, that's an alright beginner instrument, I guess." Unless it had a cutaway, then they'd ban you immediately.
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Shiroc posted:I had a stupid expensive Les Paul once that was the only Les Paul I ever liked. That's more damning to the other Les Pauls I've played than the stupid cost translating directly to quality. Watching other people's schemes fail is just so good. There's a danish musician (Tim Christensen) who got a gibson signature acoustic a few years back. Very limited run, very expensive. Some dude must have bought one as an investment because he's been trying to unload it at twice the price ever since.
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Oct 23, 2020 10:19
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Anime Reference posted:I'm pretty sure if you showed up at a classical guitar forum with a $2000 Cordoba everyone would be like "well, that's an alright beginner instrument, I guess." Unless it had a cutaway, then they'd ban you immediately. It makes me wonder if any of these people actually learned on cheap instruments and turned into elitists after, or actually were dumb enough to spend thousands on trying something out for the first time.
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Anime Reference posted:I'm pretty sure if you showed up at a classical guitar forum with a $2000 Cordoba everyone would be like "well, that's an alright beginner instrument, I guess." Unless it had a cutaway, then they'd ban you immediately. Lol, yes. You would also get banned for having any kind of on board electronics on your guitar.
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Oct 23, 2020 14:15
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Blacknose posted:It makes me wonder if any of these people actually learned on cheap instruments and turned into elitists after, or actually were dumb enough to spend thousands on trying something out for the first time. There's no such thing as cheap stuff for any kind of classical instrument tbh. A sax you can actually gig starts around four figures. A lot of beginners rent or borrow them from schools until they're committed enough to invest, but even top-tier professional players will use exceptional instruments bought by angel investors and gifted on loan because its the only way anyone who plays music can afford them. Guitar is (horrifyingly) the cheap option thanks to Leo having a robust approach to luthiery and then becoming one of the most popular instruments on the planet so mass production was viable.
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I've always wanted to spend sometime on the violin, and when I called the local reputable strings place they told me their absolute cheapest student models started in the $500 range. The owner said it was the "cheapest thing we can sell with a good conscience." And this wasn't some nose-in-the-air place, their guitar room has a whole wall of $200 student acoustics.
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Guess I'll stick with folk instruments.
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