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John Wick of Dogs posted:Maybe Terok is Cardassian for Deep Space and Nor is Cardassian for 9 Ter is space Terok is deep space Then you keep adding oks Terokokokok Norteen A bit okward
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terok nor is cardassian for “i banged your mom”
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Oct 20, 2020 17:55
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HD DAD posted:terok nor is cardassian for “i banged your mom” Goddammit, Dukat. Why would you say that?
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Oct 20, 2020 17:57
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This has made me realize, outside of a few incidental words, we don't get really any spoken Cardassian on screen unless I'm forgetting something.
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Oct 20, 2020 17:58
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I feel like DS9 wasn't big on alien languages in general, except for Klingon because that just seems like a thing they feel they always have to do with Klingons.
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Oct 20, 2020 18:21
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There’s loads of bajoran crap too. Gotta align your pahs with your djarras
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Oct 20, 2020 18:22
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skasion posted:There’s loads of bajoran crap too. Gotta align your pahs with your djarras My favorite Promenade restaurant is Sbarro's
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Oct 20, 2020 18:35
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Sir Lemming posted:
I don't even expect continuity, it just seemed when the trials should have started getting juicy and Picard comes under the spotlight himself it just skips to the end and Sadie implodes from a 30 second inspiration speech for dad once gave. It's still a pretty good episode and I respect the show for going for it but by the time it ended I was thought 'oh, that's it?'
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Oct 20, 2020 18:37
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The Drumhead is very timely and not dated. It’s just primarily a ‘courtroom drama’ episode so if you don’t like those you may not like it
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Oct 20, 2020 18:39
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FlamingLiberal posted:The Drumhead is very timely and not dated. It’s just primarily a ‘courtroom drama’ episode so if you don’t like those you may not like it No, I wanted *more* courtroom drama! Picard should have been eating poo poo and wilting under Sadie's showtrial before they find a way to reverse things back on her rather than just ending the episode almost immediately after he takes the stand!
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Oct 20, 2020 18:42
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The thing in the RLM video where they come to the epiphany that the Darmok aliens speak entirely in memes both blew me away and made me depressed because I realized I've met people in real life who talk exactly like the Darmok aliens. "Voldemort! His Horcrux Broken!" "Doctor Who! His Backstory Ruined!". Darmok wasn't fiction it was a documentary.
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Oct 20, 2020 19:08
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In the future, conflicts are resolved IMMEDIATELY, via RHETORIC
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Oct 20, 2020 19:10
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multijoe posted:I don't even expect continuity, it just seemed when the trials should have started getting juicy and Picard comes under the spotlight himself it just skips to the end and Sadie implodes from a 30 second inspiration speech for dad once gave. It's still a pretty good episode and I respect the show for going for it but by the time it ended I was thought 'oh, that's it?' Well I don't mean continuity exactly, I just mean the general compulsion to really revert hard to the status quo by the end of the episode. When you have those constraints, and write each episode more or less in a vacuum, it limits how deep you can go. You have to introduce and tear down this character, and all of the implications they represent, in 40 minutes. It's a great episode, but it's easy to see how it could've been more.
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Oct 20, 2020 19:31
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galagazombie posted:The thing in the RLM video where they come to the epiphany that the Darmok aliens speak entirely in memes both blew me away and made me depressed because I realized I've met people in real life who talk exactly like the Darmok aliens. "Voldemort! His Horcrux Broken!" "Doctor Who! His Backstory Ruined!". Darmok wasn't fiction it was a documentary. Language has had idioms, metaphors, and similes forever. Memes are really just another form of visual metaphor. Think of how much language doesn't make sense from the literal words. For example, what would "my cross to bear" mean to anyone that doesn't have a passing familiarity of Christianity. Darmok takes it to more literal extreme, but it's never been all that fictional.
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Oct 20, 2020 19:58
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I feel like DS9 wasn't big on alien languages in general, except for Klingon because that just seems like a thing they feel they always have to do with Klingons. The Breen stick to their language when they come into the show.
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Oct 20, 2020 20:13
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I feel like DS9 wasn't big on alien languages in general, except for Klingon because that just seems like a thing they feel they always have to do with Klingons. It also helped that they had a fully fledged Klingon language, syntax and all, courtesy of Marc Okrand by 1982-83.
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Oct 20, 2020 20:33
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multijoe posted:No, I wanted *more* courtroom drama! Picard should have been eating poo poo and wilting under Sadie's showtrial before they find a way to reverse things back on her rather than just ending the episode almost immediately after he takes the stand! One of the federations most decorated officers was never going to wilt to a witch hunter. He didn't drag her down before he was in the spotlight because he was trying to keep others on side, avoid a split down the middle of his ship. When she put him under trial and started questioning him about the Borg, that's when he realised she was never under any hope of redemption, and just goes "gently caress it" 
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Oct 20, 2020 20:34
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I liked that bit in...I think Statistical Probabilities that showed Weyoun speaking his native language.
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Oct 20, 2020 20:35
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Maybe Terok is Cardassian for Deep Space and Nor is Cardassian for 9 Is Empok Cardassian for Sixty?
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Oct 20, 2020 21:13
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bull3964 posted:Language has had idioms, metaphors, and similes forever. Memes are really just another form of visual metaphor. I know what an idiom is. But the Darmok guys talk in nothing [i]but[/] idioms. Like imagine a language that could only communicate in Bible verses.
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Oct 20, 2020 23:56
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galagazombie posted:I know what an idiom is. But the Darmok guys talk in nothing [i]but[/] idioms. Like imagine a language that could only communicate in Bible verses. English is like 90% horse-related, not too much of a stretch.
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Oct 21, 2020 00:05
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FlamingLiberal posted:The Drumhead is very timely and not dated. It’s just primarily a ‘courtroom drama’ episode so if you don’t like those you may not like it its fine, its just 20 minutes too short. the ending fizzles out really badly
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Oct 21, 2020 00:14
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I don't think it needed to be longer. They establish that Satie is just going on and on with interviewing Enterprise crew and creating this conspiracy, and gets Worf to believe in it, and Picard shuts that poo poo down (as he should). His whole speech at the end with Worf is just a perfect cap on the episode.
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Oct 21, 2020 00:17
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John Wick of Dogs posted:My favorite Promenade restaurant is Sbarro's DS9's Sbarro, just like all real life Sbarros, was also somehow built in the 1980s and was never updated whatsoever. It was there before Terok Nor was, just kinda floating in Bajoran space.
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Oct 21, 2020 00:23
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curiousTerminal posted:DS9's Sbarro, just like all real life Sbarros, was also somehow built in the 1980s and was never updated whatsoever. It was there before Terok Nor was, just kinda floating in Bajoran space. Sbarro is not built. It exists in a state of quantum flux, awaiting a shopping mall to be built or designated so that the waveform can collapse and it may manifest.
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Oct 21, 2020 00:30
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The tragedy when a Sbarro and a Famous Wok try to manifest simultaneously, either destroying everything in the sector, or creating delicious lo mein pizza that destroys the sector
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Oct 21, 2020 00:38
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It's a very optimistic idea for a fascist witch hunt to be totally shut down with one noble speech and one slipup, and not require some more elaborate disassembly of her power. As if nobody else was eagerly complicit with railroading the quarter-Romulan. It's a very "fascism couldn't happen here" perspective, which I guess fits if the Federation is so perfect, but these days it seems underwhelming. Probably also seems weak for the days of McCarthyism. It's very 1991.
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Oct 21, 2020 00:53
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SlothfulCobra posted:It's a very optimistic idea for a fascist witch hunt to be totally shut down with one noble speech and one slipup, and not require some more elaborate disassembly of her power. As if nobody else was eagerly complicit with railroading the quarter-Romulan. The actual McCarthy did pretty much get shut down in the end exactly like a TNG villain, though. “Have you no sense of decency, sir?”
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Oct 21, 2020 01:17
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He also ran through and destroyed a ton of careers. It was less a big speech and more people just got tired of it
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Oct 21, 2020 01:32
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DS9 "Second Sight" is a bad episode, but there is one good scene which also has a lot of headcanon potential. Jake tells Ben about a dream he had where he was running around the station looking for him and couldn't find him. It's a solid moment of relationship-building, but I also couldn't help thinking of it as somehow being connected to "The Visitor" and/or a vision from The Prophets. Since time travel is no object, and all. I mean, I guess this is the kind of stuff you have to think about when the rest of the episode is such a nothing.
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Oct 21, 2020 03:25
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i liked the terraformer guy a lot in that episode even if the rest was nothing
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Oct 21, 2020 07:12
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Sir Lemming posted:DS9 "Second Sight" is a bad episode oh forgot about this clunker. Of all the captains; Sisco is the less flirty one. His wife is dead, he has a son and a space station; no time to chase tail. I do find it hilarious when he just rolls with sleeping with mirror universe Jadzia. He is also the only main character to then find someone, marry them, and start to have children. I watched TOS "the conscience of the king" and I find it so hilarious that Kirk is told there is a mass murder pretending to be an actor in the cold open, later invited to a cocktail party to meet the person face to face, and runs into the actor's hot daughter; pickers her up and dips out. This is one of those scenes where Kirk's sexuality and how he is written is put on full display. I couldn't help add a Zap Brannigan line during "what are little girls made of?" when Kirk wakes up and realizes his robo-clone is gone and he is left with the female-robo. "time to overcome this obstacle, with my sexuality"
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Oct 21, 2020 15:50
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Brawnfire posted:The tragedy when a Sbarro and a Famous Wok try to manifest simultaneously, either destroying everything in the sector, or creating delicious lo mein pizza Also explodes all supplies of Dilithium 
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Oct 22, 2020 01:34
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God, there is some prime avatar real estate in that picture.
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Oct 22, 2020 06:48
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I wonder what relations are like with the Dominion post DS9. The wormhole is still there, but can you fly through or is there a giant dominon space fortress on the other side?
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Oct 22, 2020 10:12
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I'd imagine there's been a Dominon Space Fortress on the other end since they blew up the relay, either way. (It wasn't actually in Dominion space at the start of the show but I'd bet they annexed it pretty quick)
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Oct 22, 2020 10:49
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I can’t remember if I’m mixing the DS9 finale and the STO mission arc, but I vaguely recall something about the Female Changeling agreeing to be held in Federation custody for a while as part of the truce that ended the war.
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Oct 22, 2020 10:53
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I can’t remember if I’m mixing the DS9 finale and the STO mission arc, but I vaguely recall something about the Female Changeling agreeing to be held in Federation custody for a while as part of the truce that ended the war. Yeah, that was part of the deal. She'd stand trial for war crimes as the individual who ordered the razing of Cardassia, the dominion would withdraw everyone else from the alpha quadrant, and Odo would return to the great link. I'd imagine from there the wormhole was basically considered closed off until the hoped-for point that Odo would got back in contact and signal they'd be open to a diplomatic relationship.
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Did anyone ever give a technobabble explanation as to why Rom's self replicating mines weren't a clear violation of thermodynamics?
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