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Synergism Ok so I just opened up corruption. What is a good setting for my first try?
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Oct 22, 2020 11:58
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Purification slime will also spend actions eating your muddy mucus so if you cap that out you can beat it much earlier
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Oct 22, 2020 12:08
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ScottyJSno posted:Synergism Don't corrupt your runs until you can ascend in a matter of seconds. Just keep doing (increasingly fast) normal uncorrupted runs.
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Oct 22, 2020 13:08
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Another Chronicle: I'm kind of curious if non-bosses also have elemental weaknesses and resistances, just less pronounced than the boss battles. The coastal dungeon mobs seemed to shrug off any rock spells and attacks. Also, since the default moves of your summons don't have information cards or anything, white bars = physical attacks and pink bars = spells, for purposes of which attack and defense stats they're using (I think, testing things has been a bit hard in this game).
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Oct 22, 2020 14:29
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Manyorcas posted:Another Chronicle: I'm kind of curious if non-bosses also have elemental weaknesses and resistances, just less pronounced than the boss battles. The coastal dungeon mobs seemed to shrug off any rock spells and attacks. If you hold shift it expands the tooltips of monsters to show you their default skill with it's attack type, base damage, and interval. I assume the default skills use all the monster's elements.
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Oct 22, 2020 14:58
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SynthesisAlpha posted:If you hold shift it expands the tooltips of monsters to show you their default skill with it's attack type, base damage, and interval. I assume the default skills use all the monster's elements. Quite a lot of them are just tackle or similar plain physical attacks. As for the other guy's question, there's an elemental rock paper scissors system that goes something like wind beats earth beats water beats fire beats wind, plus by the time you get to the coast you will likely have eaten a lot of pork and not much that raises magic, causing anything with a magic attack to be rather lacking.
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Oct 22, 2020 15:04
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dis astranagant posted:Quite a lot of them are just tackle or similar plain physical attacks. As for the other guy's question, there's an elemental rock paper scissors system that goes something like wind beats earth beats water beats fire beats wind, plus by the time you get to the coast you will likely have eaten a lot of pork and not much that raises magic, causing anything with a magic attack to be rather lacking. This is exactly the single biggest issue with balancing physical vs magical attacks in this game. Pork and salt both raise physical attack and can be afk farmed from bosses. I think mushrooms are the only drop food that raises magical attack and they take 15-20 times as long to farm up. You can automate production of foods after your first reincarnation, but nothing is going to be as fast as shoving pork and salt into your face. Even the foods that have monster passive that regenerate them (fish, apple, honey) or can be farmed with a single loop action (fish, milk) or can be bought directly with a single automated instant action (beef, pork, chicken) all only raise defenses or max hp (or more attack for beef & pork). There's just no effective way to get magical attacks anywhere near on the level of physical.
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Oct 22, 2020 16:19
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SynthesisAlpha posted:This is exactly the single biggest issue with balancing physical vs magical attacks in this game. Pork and salt both raise physical attack and can be afk farmed from bosses. I think mushrooms are the only drop food that raises magical attack and they take 15-20 times as long to farm up. You can automate production of foods after your first reincarnation, but nothing is going to be as fast as shoving pork and salt into your face. Even the foods that have monster passive that regenerate them (fish, apple, honey) or can be farmed with a single loop action (fish, milk) or can be bought directly with a single automated instant action (beef, pork, chicken) all only raise defenses or max hp (or more attack for beef & pork). There's just no effective way to get magical attacks anywhere near on the level of physical. Shortly after the coast you can unlock some pretty strong magic boosting food, but by then you've been thoroughly trained to avoid magic and the next area has several weapon monsters to break warrior school builds with.
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Oct 22, 2020 16:33
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dis astranagant posted:Shortly after the coast you can unlock some pretty strong magic boosting food, but by then you've been thoroughly trained to avoid magic and the next area has several weapon monsters to break warrior school builds with. Which food are you talking about, the Honey and Wine combos? I'm not sure they'd qualify, even if they are high efficiency foods you're still competing for stats like Max HP and regular attack that you could make with honey and wine instead, plus it's so annoying the farm (presumably wine isn't once you can one-shot the Elder Treant). Couple of side questions to avoid making another post: - Is there some secret to getting the rare enemies to drop research? I've got the first two zones fairies but have never gotten any other rare enemy since then. I've even spent about 18 hours just grinding out the Queen Bee area and probably two to three days on Phantom Whale, and nothing. I've literally got every other monster up to Elder Treant maxed out in the grind to try and get the rares. - What do you lose on reincarnation? Am I screwing myself over by trying to max everything out on my first run? If I have to re-do the researching or if I have to finish the Bishop Goddess Statues before I can reincarnate, I'm probably going to drop it now and save my sanity.
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Oct 22, 2020 16:49
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FLP8P-PY537-WHFFX please do say if you got it so i can keep track of who's playing the alpha
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Oct 22, 2020 16:50
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Am I supposed to just constantly eat in Another Chronicle or only eat till I've maxed the satiety thing?
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Oct 22, 2020 16:53
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Bedurndurn posted:Am I supposed to just constantly eat in Another Chronicle or only eat till I've maxed the satiety thing? Constantly as long as you're able. Satiety is how much bonus you're going to get when you Dark Ritual, it caps out which is why you can go up to 100% but you still get the stats from the food for each level you gain regardless of satiety.
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Oct 22, 2020 17:00
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something posted:FLP8P-PY537-WHFFX yoink
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Oct 22, 2020 17:08
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nessin posted:- Is there some secret to getting the rare enemies to drop research? I've got the first two zones fairies but have never gotten any other rare enemy since then. I've even spent about 18 hours just grinding out the Queen Bee area and probably two to three days on Phantom Whale, and nothing. I've literally got every other monster up to Elder Treant maxed out in the grind to try and get the rares. 1) There really isn't one, though you can get hundreds of research per drop and higher drop rates by stacking various monster and intuition bonuses late game. 2) not much, actually. The story resets and I think your rituals reset and that's about it. you keep your gluttony bonuses, monsters, unlocked skills and all of your items. You should probably finish your goddess statue grind so you never have to touch that path again, tho.
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Oct 22, 2020 17:14
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dis astranagant posted:yoink sweet, if you can join the NGU INDUSTRIES discord i'd really appreciate it, for your thoughts on the content.
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Oct 22, 2020 17:22
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 Why would I want to give this random drunk dude my statue? I need it... for killing. Does it secretly teach me how to make more statues?
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Oct 22, 2020 19:17
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Can someone help me figure out why my autoascend is so inconsistent in Syngerism? The settings are the same for all these: Autosac at 60 in-game seconds (which is just after my first C9 sweep) Autochallenge at 0/.55/0 Autoascend at C10x1 Yet every now and then I get these 1.5- to 2X-length ascensions.
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Oct 22, 2020 19:42
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iirc chrome now has fuckery with non focused tabs so it may be some stupid browser thing
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Oct 22, 2020 19:52
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I don't know the actual answer, but my guess was bad luck with recycling chance.
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Oct 22, 2020 19:54
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Can someone help me figure out why my autoascend is so inconsistent in Syngerism? It's definitely a known thing -- there's speculation that it has to do with tick timings on any other automation you might have going on (auto reincarnate, research purchase, auto rune upgrade, auto fortify, auto enhance, etc.). Running autochallenge on super small timers (which you are and should be doing) means that being one tick behind on anything can pretty dramatically impact your run. If you don't autoascend on one "wave," you have to go through another. Recycling chance I'm pretty sure was changed a few patches back to not be luck based and instead just apply a flat multiplier of what the average expected recycle bonus would be.
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Oct 22, 2020 20:05
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Made it to the first reincarnate of Another Chronicle, currently stuffing my face with all the Farmworked Anchovy Sandwiches because goodness those are some hefty plusses.
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Oct 22, 2020 20:11
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Bedurndurn posted:
do it.
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Oct 22, 2020 20:19
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dis astranagant posted:do it. Oh I'm retarded... I thought it was a cost but it gave me one instead. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 22, 2020 20:27
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Eldercain posted:iirc chrome now has fuckery with non focused tabs so it may be some stupid browser thing Its a firefox thing as well, and it happens in a focused tab too. The general consensus on the discord regarding this is "it is what it is, live with it", luckily this is no longer a thing once you do c14 as you do long runs from then on
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Oct 22, 2020 20:40
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Another Chronicle - do i need to make goddess drops because good god
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Oct 22, 2020 20:42
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NGU- can you do idle quests offline? I don't want to leave my computer on all day while i'm at work.
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Oct 22, 2020 21:19
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Yes.
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Oct 22, 2020 21:33
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xiw posted:Another Chronicle - do i need to make goddess drops because good god For your first reincarnate? Nah, you are probably diligent enough to have Destiny Max to make it through to the end. I did it to see where it would lead and it's simply a bigger number given by your Potions, Runes, Runestones, etc. etc. etc. Nothing used it, nothing required it.
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Oct 22, 2020 22:10
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Nea posted:NGU- can you do idle quests offline? I don't want to leave my computer on all day while i'm at work. Yes, with the caveat that until you get the perk Truly Idle Questing you'll only be able to complete the one you're in when you log out, and then you have to log back in to turn it in and start another. After that perk, you can just leave it and come back to "completed 5 quests" or however many.
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Oct 23, 2020 02:19
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also the caveat that you will swiftly run out of major quests doing this. suggest picking up the sellout shop "20% faster major quests" thing where possible because it shifts you to mostly doing majors, instead of mostly aatreking
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Oct 23, 2020 10:37
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:instead of mostly aatreking 
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Oct 23, 2020 10:43
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youd be focusing on minors so this checks out
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Oct 23, 2020 14:34
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I opened synergism for the first time in a while. I was able to unlock the ability to Ascend, but now: -- I have no idea what cubes are -- I don't understand corruption -- I cannot recall how to get past around e300 particles and into anthill - am I totally forgetting something? I remember this was a grind but I seem to have totally stalled EDIT: I don't need to re-do that bonus that requires transcending hundreds of times in a row to build up a multiplier bonus, do I? doesn't look like it. Seems like some element is just... not "on" and I cannot figure out what it is. Cobalt60 fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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Oct 24, 2020 06:18
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Have you done your challenges?
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Oct 24, 2020 07:36
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yeah challenges are stalled at 75/75/47/53/40 // 17/12/0/0/0/0 runes look beefy, and research looks further than it was last time I unlocked ants... maybe I just need to chill and wait
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Oct 24, 2020 07:42
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Double check all your buildings and upgrades, if you just ascended you should be able to jump back to at least the point of ants pretty quickly. You didn't enable any corruptions did you? You won't be touching those for a long time.
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Oct 24, 2020 07:46
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if you did like me and just smashed ascend you probably screwed yourself into a few weeks that will be really slow. the fact that you could pre prepare and skip that is you knew the right thing to do was bad design but here I am still playing stupid ants
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Oct 24, 2020 09:15
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Eldercain posted:if you did like me and just smashed ascend you probably screwed yourself into a few weeks that will be really slow. the fact that you could pre prepare and skip that is you knew the right thing to do was bad design but here I am still playing
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Oct 24, 2020 11:57
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Cobalt60 posted:yeah challenges are stalled at 75/75/47/53/40 // 17/12/0/0/0/0 Blessings have been completely redesigned and have to be bought with offerings. They no longer activate when your runes are at certain levels. Instead, they're permanent and persist across ascensions. Don't forget to respec your talismans to 2/4/5 for most cases. You can also change to 1/2/4 when trying to push challenges for an extra bit of oomph, but 2/4/5 is your best bet in general. Don't forget to buy your first Tesseract building and check back periodically to buy upgrades with your constant. This is going to be very slow until you have a lot of ascensions under your belt but some of the bonuses are nice. I don't think it should take you more than a few hours to get back to ants, and then another day or so to be able to ascend again. The first few ascensions are REALLY slow and you have some room to shoot yourself in the foot slow it down even further. They start to get faster. Cubes are a new resource that you can either spend on permanent upgrades or "open" for random permanent bonuses to various things. You want to buy w1x1 in your cube upgrades immediately. The rest of your cubes should be opened. In general, you want to open cubes over spending them on upgrades. The obtanium one (w1x3) is also good because at this point obtainium is a limiting factor for how fast you can ascend. I'm sure someone figured out exactly what point you should buy what cubes upgrades vs spending them, but I don't know what it is -- I just did it blind based on what felt good to me. Oh, check the shop and possibly respec. I don't remember what the optimal shop researches are at the point you're at, but I remember maxing obtanium EX, ants, WOW cube season pass, and probably a few levels of the C10 requirement reduction and reincarnation challenge completion increase. Also you obviously want one point in the obtanium/offering spending automators. New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Oct 24, 2020 |
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:Blessings have been completely redesigned and have to be bought with offerings. They no longer activate when your runes are at certain levels. Instead, they're permanent and persist across ascensions. Don't forget to respec your talismans to 2/4/5 for most cases. You can also change to 1/2/4 when trying to push challenges for an extra bit of oomph, but 2/4/5 is your best bet in general. I'm not here in Synergy yet but the rule of thumb for spendable prestige currency is 1% of your currency value is safe to spend on upgrades works in pretty much every idle game. The exceptions are when there's a wall if you don't buy an upgrade that is more than that.
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