|
What do people actually mean by a villain team up movie? Something like suicide squad? The heroes Vs a bunch of returning villains all at once? Or a villain centred movie?
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 00:44
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 22:22 |
|
|
Teek posted:The Thunderbolts thing seems pretty likely, especially with one of the writers just recently saying they plan to bring back some secondary characters to rehab them. Throw Batroc in there but he's gotta have the mustache
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 00:47
|
|
|
David D. Davidson posted:Thw could finance an entire new film for that money. They kind of are. 3 hours of unseen footage qualifies as a new movie, and with that they're getting brand recognition, an in built loyal fanbase that are clearly willing to spend money, and tons of free publicity. It's kind of a no brainer really.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 00:49
|
|
|
Davros1 posted:Now I want to see the Joker rankings. Does it only rank modern day Jokers (ignoring Cesar Romero). Or is there someone worse than Leto? Probably only modern Batman movies. So he's at the bottom of the list of Ledger, Nicholson, Phoenix, and Leto.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 00:49
|
|
|
Davros1 posted:Now I want to see the Joker rankings. Does it only rank modern day Jokers (ignoring Cesar Romero). Or is there someone worse than Leto?
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 00:56
|
|
|
Codependent Poster posted:Probably only modern Batman movies. I will not stand for this Romero erasure! 
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 00:58
|
|
|
Fangz posted:What do people actually mean by a villain team up movie? Something like suicide squad? The heroes Vs a bunch of returning villains all at once? Or a villain centred movie? Think folks are generally talking about the Hero team vs the Villain team like X-Men vs the Brotherhood, or Avengers vs the Masters of Evil or Dark Avengers.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 00:58
|
|
|
Davros1 posted:I will not stand for this Romero erasure! I'm sorry, but 1966 is a bit past modern now. Besides, everyone already knows Romero's the best.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 01:07
|
|
|
Codependent Poster posted:Probably only modern Batman movies. You forgot Zach Galifianakis.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 01:15
|
|
|
Fangz posted:You forgot Zach Galifianakis. Live action only! Because otherwise Hamill would be there.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 01:16
|
|
|
Any Joker list that excludes Romero and Hamill is invalid and must be mocked without mercy. 
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 01:21
|
|
|
Tudyk is pretty good on Harley Quinn too.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 01:23
|
|
|
I remember liking John DiMaggio’s Joker in Under the Red Hood, even though the rest of that movie is incredibly dull and uninteresting just like every Red Hood thing.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 01:42
|
|
|
Real hot take, but there are no bad interpretations of superheroes, just different ones. They're all valid in their own way. Except for Kevin Smiths batman pissing himself. That one is not valid.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 01:44
|
|
|
Absolutely not.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 01:48
|
|
|
I don't even hate Leto Joker (Leto himself is another story) but outside of maybe a couple forgettable voice overs he's just dead last on any real list.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 01:49
|
|
|
Fangz posted:What do people actually mean by a villain team up movie? Something like suicide squad? The heroes Vs a bunch of returning villains all at once? Or a villain centred movie? For instance, Guardians of the Galaxy, featuring the fourth worst Chris, is not a "team-up movie" by my infallible logic. X-Men is not a team-up movie. They're just movies that feature teams. I might be persuaded to consider some of the Batman and Spider-Man films villain team-ups because there were several prominent villains in them who join forces to annoy the hero, but that's stretching it a bit. Feels like that's just a piecemeal definition of having a rogue's gallery at all. But to torture the tenuous definition even further, I would probably consider a Sinister Six film, when it ever happens, to be a proper villain team-up. Why?...I dunno, the scope of it is just bigger I guess. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Oct 23, 2020 |
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 02:09
|
|
|
Batman Returns has three villains teaming up in different ways. Batman Begins has 4 if you count Zsasz (he works for the Roman so he's technically on the team).
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 02:43
|
|
|
Vince MechMahon posted:Batman Returns has three villains teaming up in different ways. Batman Begins has 4 if you count Zsasz (he works for the Roman so he's technically on the team). Isn’t Zsasz in like literally one second of the movie?
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 02:45
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:Isn’t Zsasz in like literally one second of the movie? He's in the court, the asylum, and riot.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 02:48
|
|
|
Vince MechMahon posted:Batman Returns has three villains teaming up in different ways. Batman Begins has 4 if you count Zsasz (he works for the Roman so he's technically on the team). Zsasz was more like a cameo, really.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 03:00
|
|
|
He's a generic henchmen who also happens to have a comic book back story, he's an easter egg.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 03:50
|
|
|
Would Egghead be the best Easter Egg?
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 04:02
|
|
|
Fangz posted:What do people actually mean by a villain team up movie? Something like suicide squad? The heroes Vs a bunch of returning villains all at once? Or a villain centred movie? I want two different things. I want a Superheroes versus Supervillain movie where the bad guys just form together to take on Superheroes. I want a "here is a portion of the film that is the Flash versus Mirror Master." Separately I want a Thunderbolts film which is a "villain" centred movie. Also if you are doing it, don't make it a Suicide Squad/Warren Ellis style rehabilitative prison team. I want the whole "villains posing as heroes. Then looking at the complex questions about motive of doing good versus doing good acts and how that interfaces with rehabilitation." Also speaking of Villain Centred movies, those Sony emails were saying that the execs were pushing hard for a Sinister Six film done as like an Avengers but with bad guys movie.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 10:46
|
|
|
I guess I just think back to all the superhero movies ruined by trying to jam in too many villains (i.e. Spiderman 3) and wondering how that would work if you are doing that and also trying to jam in character development for a full superhero team at the same time.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 12:29
|
|
|
Fangz posted:I guess I just think back to all the superhero movies ruined by trying to jam in too many villains (i.e. Spiderman 3) and wondering how that would work if you are doing that and also trying to jam in character development for a full superhero team at the same time. Spiderverse
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 14:12
|
|
|
So what we need is a film about 5 carnages
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 15:10
|
|
|
There was that one comic in the 90s that introduced the 5 symbiotes that were ‘Carnage’s children’
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 15:14
|
|
|
ImpAtom posted:Spiderverse Well, only Kingpin and Doc Ock are really around in the end, and Ock doesn't do that much.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 15:54
|
|
|
Fangz posted:I guess I just think back to all the superhero movies ruined by trying to jam in too many villains (i.e. Spiderman 3) and wondering how that would work if you are doing that and also trying to jam in character development for a full superhero team at the same time. There's a good example of a successful movie about rival teams of people in colourful costumes engaged in choreographed competitions: Bring It On.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 16:05
|
|
|
FlamingLiberal posted:There was that one comic in the 90s that introduced the 5 symbiotes that were ‘Carnage’s children’ They were Venom's kids.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 17:09
|
|
|
FlamingLiberal posted:There was that one comic in the 90s that introduced the 5 symbiotes that were ‘Carnage’s children’ Was that separation anxiety, or were they introduced before then? I mostly remember that arc for its godawful beat-em-up adaptation that was “the Maximum Carnage game but worse”.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 17:10
|
|
|
It was the end of Lethal Protector. Issue #5 if I recall.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 17:15
|
|
|
Am I thinking of something else where Carnage gets experimented on
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 17:45
|
|
|
McCloud posted:Real hot take, but there are no bad interpretations of superheroes, just different ones. They're all valid in their own way. Bat-mite? Is that you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6UDEi8H43M
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 18:01
|
|
|
Big Mean Jerk posted:I remember liking John DiMaggio’s Joker in Under the Red Hood, even though the rest of that movie is incredibly dull and uninteresting just like every Red Hood thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k-K89tZDuA
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 18:07
|
|
|
Fangz posted:I guess I just think back to all the superhero movies ruined by trying to jam in too many villains (i.e. Spiderman 3) and wondering how that would work if you are doing that and also trying to jam in character development for a full superhero team at the same time. I think the best way to handle a Thunderbolts film is to do a Suicide Squad-style villain redemption story. Have them infiltrate some rich Louisiana landowner's grounds to find Man-Thing, or something. Black ops stuff but with technicolour superheroes (so not very black ops).
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 20:25
|
|
|
JordanKai posted:I think the best way to handle a Thunderbolts film is to do a Suicide Squad-style villain redemption story. Have them infiltrate some rich Louisiana landowner's grounds to find Man-Thing, or something. Black ops stuff but with technicolour superheroes (so not very black ops). You know my pet theory? That Falcon and Winter Soldier is already a backdoor Thunderbolts setup. We know Zemo, Batroc, Sharon Carter, and John Walker are involved. We suspect some Black Widow characters like Taskmaster, Yelena, or Red Guardian will be involved. It feels like the setup for Bucky and Sharon leading a SHIELD Thunderbolts/Suicide Squad with a bunch of villains of varying levels of redemption and a "hero" who is more of a villain in USAgent. You have Sharon and Bucky trying to redeem, Walker being a fascist dick, Zemo trying to undermine the whole thing. Add in some new characters like Moonstone and Songbird/Mimi. It would be fun to add in movie characters like Ghost and Vulture if you could. Add in Thunderbolt Ross as Walker's superior. But I think the skeleton is there for such an easy Thunderbolts "Season 2" that I wouldn't be surprised if the series turns out to already be that when it finally drops. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Oct 23, 2020 |
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 21:07
|
|
|
TwoPair posted:Bat-mite? Is that you? Oh my god I've been looking for a decent clip of that for aaaaages, thank you! And not entirely unrelated, and not to retread the older topic of the Snyder cut, but I saw this tweet/article that explains bwhat I've been saying for a while now, that the Snyder cut and the HBO version are two very different things https://twitter.com/smcolbert/status/1319642634701471744?s=19
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 21:45
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 22:22 |
|
|
https://twitter.com/collider/status/1319708629453385729?s=21 I know this version was supposed to be in that Ben Affleck Batman solo film that never happened
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2020 21:58
|
|