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Cat Mattress posted:The original: Lol because he changed the type of flute she's holding, her hand doesn't make sense to have the fingers in that position, but he traced it that way anyway
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TheHan posted:There’s something insidious about how every woman in the couples Mookie writes is always the lesser of and dependent on the soft boi. Even the Ink Witch was made emotionally dependent on Snout as her only friend, despite excelling beyond him in every category. Now we’ve reached some kind of event horizon where Snout’s corpse wife is a literal blank slate who only knows as much as he teaches her. It's the inevitable result of Snout being written to have no skills or qualities as a Soft Boy, in my opinion. The only woman who's less together and capable than Snout, and therefore is reliant on him for everything (identity, education, opportunities) is an angry, violent blank slate who therefore owes him and he, selflessly, adds to her debt by teaching. It's the same underlying dynamic between Dominic and Luna, where the Mookie-protagonist is the one responsible for all good things in the woman's life such that if she left him or became disinterested in him she would have nothing. Luna saying Dominic 'made her a woman' really nails it, it's honestly completely transparent that way. Mookie writes love interests who are utterly dependent on, emotionally and materially, the protagonists.
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Oct 22, 2020 22:16
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You know, the whole "Dominic dives into Luna's life without her permission" thing makes an interesting comparison against the Snout/Ink Witch interactions. In the broadest sense, Inky does the same thing Dominic does by dipping into Snout's personal and mental space and only acknowledging it after the breach of privacy has been done. It even has the hallmarks of Mookie trying to cover up afterwards by talking about how they didn't actually mean to do all of that, and normally they're actually really good people who support consent and boundaries, and Luna/Snout forgives them for their accidental trespass.  If it had just been one or two isolated incidents, I'd write it off as Mookie not thinking through the implications very well and not knowing how to write his way out of it without just going "it was out of Dominic/Inky's control and they aren't supposed to be bad people". But as part of a larger pattern that he pointedly doubles down on, it jumps that slim distinction from "bad writing" to "bad writer". Related to that, I kinda wonder why Mookie keeps drawing such onesided nighttime snuggling scenes in Legacy.* It's never just about two characters, clothed or otherwise, mutually deciding to sleep together for intimacy and comfort. It's always about one character already lying down, often asleep and oblivious, and the other getting in close without ever checking in for permission. Often this involves stripping off their own clothes for no clear reason. It'd be one thing if they were already established couples whom readers can reasonably assume have already hashed out this kind of unspoken trust offscreen, but this instead keeps happening between strangers who've met mere days ago and know little to nothing about each other. Even in the very beginning, there was Snout sleeping naked next to the injured, unconscious stranger in his room and Mookie commenting on it as if this is a normal thing people do. It's like he wants to get to the end result, a warm and intimate domestic scene, but forgets all the steps to actually build up to it and gives everyone a sludge of raw milk and eggs instead. And on top of that, here he is slipping right back into the same mistakes as what got Ink Witch forced out of focus! Why is the woman still naked, anyway? Snout's already proven himself to be a tailor who can make a shirt with very few resources, before they left he could have probably turned the blanket-leaves into a simple no-sew wrap or cloak. As it stands her nudity highlights how she's framed as a wild but naive being that the good man must teach. It's the intersection of two or three uncomfortable archetypes at once, and the unwanted sleep-glomping bodes poorly for where it might go in the future. * If I had to take a wild and likely incorrect guess, I feel like it's cribbing on harem genre tropes. Snout is the bland everyman and Ink Witch and the cabin survivor are both potential interests who get into compromising situations with him. MiracleFlare fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Oct 22, 2020 |
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Oct 22, 2020 23:21
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I'm honestly still not over "playing solid body guitars for a crowd, no amps" thing. No one but the people closest to them should be able to hear a drat thing.
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Oct 22, 2020 23:52
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The Little Death posted:Unclear how the people of Barthis have been surviving to this point, or even how long it's been since the town was destroyed. Back in the day, it was always assumed weeks or months were passing because these strips would be dealt out over half a year. Knowing what we do about Mookie now, it's been 24-48 hours because we've seen Dominic sleep twice.
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Oct 23, 2020 02:53
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I can't believe Mookie drew red vines's giant floppy cock in friday's strip.
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Oct 23, 2020 03:22
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That cloth he uses as a blanket was hanging outside from what is clearly a long abandoned building. I too love to sleep under a rotting, mildew ridden rag.
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catlord posted:Speaking of the Storm of Souls, Celesto was the Chapion of Chaos and Dominic was the Champion of Balance. Did the forces of Law just... gently caress off? What were they doing and why didn't they have a Champion of their own? Shouldn't that have been a big three-way fight? The Champion of Law was in it, but she was so barely involved it's no surprise if you missed it. She was the leaf dryad from the first story arc who existed just to give Dominic a leaf cape while he fought Celesto.
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Oct 23, 2020 04:23
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Lemony posted:That cloth he uses as a blanket was hanging outside from what is clearly a long abandoned building. I too love to sleep under a rotting, mildew ridden rag. If you ask Mookie why Snout doesn’t make the blanket into clothes for his corpse daughter wife he’d retcon that the blanket is actually rotting and mildew ridden.
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Oct 23, 2020 04:27
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Also note that in a field full of grand ruins and columns the structures left standing are perfect cubes that mirror the basic bulding you can make in No Man's Sky
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Twelve by Pies posted:The Champion of Law was in it, but she was so barely involved it's no surprise if you missed it. She was the leaf dryad from the first story arc who existed just to give Dominic a leaf cape while he fought Celesto. Of loving course. Amazing. Don't know what I expected.
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TheHan posted:There’s something insidious about how every woman in the couples Mookie writes is always the lesser of and dependent on the soft boi. This isn't true! Rachel Hart is shown to be confident in her self-esteem and sexuality. Of course this is both played as a joke and also as something Dominic is (rightfully in Mookie's eyes) repulsed by.
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Oct 23, 2020 05:13
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Nudity is fine, but this all is just gratuitous
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Who What Now posted:This isn't true! Rachel Hart is shown to be confident in her self-esteem and sexuality. Of course this is both played as a joke and also as something Dominic is (rightfully in Mookie's eyes) repulsed by. Ah but Mookie made sure to include a scene where THOSE JOCKS hurl slurs at Rachel and reduce her to a sobbing mess for Gregory Deegan to valiantly defend. You don’t get to be a woman in Dominic Deegan and not be a sobbing mess for a man to rescue at least once. Also here’s a fun gem that relates to The Battle for Barthis.  “Yeah we wore pink, but not TOO much pink  ”
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The Little Death posted:If they're only thinking of charging people now, one wonders why they decided to do the impromptu guitar rock concert on what will canonically be unpowered electric guitars. This really makes me think that Mookie doesn't understand how guitars work. I think they're not supposed to be unpowered electric guitars, just... normal guitars. And then later they got shot with lightning magic to turn them into electric guitars. And they're lacking the, you know, holes and stuff acoustic guitars need because Mookie didn't do five minutes of research on how guitars actually work.
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Regalingualius posted:And WRT the reread: yet a-loving-gain, Dominic fails to respect his loved ones’ boundaries and doesn’t get called out on it, despite this being his biggest breach of privacy yet. In any other story, Luna would be more than within her rights to be beyond furious with him for doing something this gross; like, imagine if she had walked in while it was still in the middle of showing her having sex? If I remember correctly, his vision skipped the sex part, so Luna didn't walk in on Dominic watching her have sex. Yet. That is reserved for a Very Special Scene. It will get so much worse than you can imagine.
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Zereth posted:I think they're not supposed to be unpowered electric guitars, just... normal guitars. After all, an electric guitar works because the wood of the guitar body is all ionized by lightning. It's why it's called an electric guitar.
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Oct 23, 2020 09:31
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Who What Now posted:This isn't true! Rachel Hart is shown to be confident in her self-esteem and sexuality. Of course this is both played as a joke and also as something Dominic is (rightfully in Mookie's eyes) repulsed by. This is, again, extremely common in the sort of anime Mookie was/is inspired by and a fan of. Women will be sexualized and whatnot by their design and framing, but generally not be actually sexual themselves. She might dress like the whore, but she'll act like the madonna. It's only really villainesses and comedic fanservice characters that get to be both sexualized and sexual. Active female sexuality is always confined to the realm of villainy and/or comedy. Like we all know that sort of person Mookie is. I imagine most of us knew him - sometimes her - in high school, and that a fair few of us *were* that guy. The thing is, they/we grew up. Mookie never did. He's still an anime-obsessed dorky high school student who despite having hosed at least once in his life - he is a father - seems to derive all of his knowledge of relationships and sexuality from lovely 90s and early aughts anime. Like even anime has left him behind and grown. The world of anime Mookie lives in is the one where glomping at conventions was the norm. The man's an incredible throwback.
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Ok, so, we know that mookie wants to gently caress the ink witch. And we know that Snout is mookie. We can also infer that mookie wants to gently caress corpsemum because she ticks every box we know about him so far. Finally, we also know that for all the sex-positive stuff he's putting out now, mookie has a deep-seated hatred of hedonists, so Snout/mookie will never stray from monogamy and share his affections with more than one love interest. Once again he wrote himself into a corner.
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Soup du Jour posted:how can a comic be so gross and offputting but also so loving boring But enough about Moon over June.
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Oct 23, 2020 10:25
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y'know, i will say that mookie's artstyle has never filled me with as much visceral disgust as the moon over june faces.
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Marin Karin posted:y'know, i will say that mookie's artstyle has never filled me with as much visceral disgust as the moon over june faces. Possibly the only one thing going for him.
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Oct 23, 2020 11:41
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Like even anime has left him behind and grown. The world of anime Mookie lives in is the one where glomping at conventions was the norm. Not entirely, there's an anime airing this very season which strikes me as the most Mookie-style anime ever.  A 39 year old man dies after having a "sad" life and three gods take pity on him and reincarnate him in another world where his only mission is to enjoy life and be himself. They also give him massive physical and magical boosts and promise to watch over him. Oh, and he's reincarnated as a pre-teen (but still with the mind of a 39 year old) and quickly accumulates a harem. It's the ultimately innocent softboy protagonist who's far too young to be sexual but still able to appreciate it when his harem members rub their boobs on him of their own violation, of course he wouldn't want that. Oddly enough, it prominently features slimes, which makes it incredibly similar to the other reincarnation anime where an older man is reincarnated in a fantasy world, takes on the appearance of a young boy, has incredibly overblown powers, no ambitions and quickly accumulates a harem of women who literally fight over who gets to rub their tits on him: "that time I got reincarnated as a slime"
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Oh yeah you still get throwbacks and fash poo poo and rape fetish stuff but by and large anime and especially the western fandom thereof today is quite different and in many ways more mature than it was/Mookie is. Mookie is an atavism is kinda my point. He’s stuck so firmly in the past that comparing him to modern anime fans is unfair to them and unhelpful to getting him. If Mookie grew up today we’d be getting more overt rape and Nazi poo poo as he fell in love with Goblin Slayer or Shield Hero or whatever.
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Oct 23, 2020 11:53
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oriongates posted:Not entirely, there's an anime airing this very season which strikes me as the most Mookie-style anime ever. this one eventually differentiates itself by saying "Child labour is a good thing" though!
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drat, Mookie would love Goblin Slayer. So much sexualised murder/rape of women. It's cool though, the noble hero is there to save the day and be fawned on by all the female characters.
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Oct 23, 2020 12:22
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mookie would definitely write an isekai
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Agreed. And I say that as someone who did write a crappy self-insert isekai webcomic back in the era Deegan started in. And I had the good sense to feel ashamed of it even as I made it.
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 I think it's fair to say Mookie has never felt guilty about anything in his career. It's hilarious that he thinks he's taking such a brave stance here.
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He's really doing a lot of work lately justifying tracing and resuing assets all over the place, huh. How long until he's proud of the entire thing being traced clipart?
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oriongates posted:of their own violation I assume it's a typo for "volition", but at the same time it kind of isn't.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:This is, again, extremely common in the sort of anime Mookie was/is inspired by and a fan of. Women will be sexualized and whatnot by their design and framing, but generally not be actually sexual themselves. She might dress like the whore, but she'll act like the madonna. It's only really villainesses and comedic fanservice characters that get to be both sexualized and sexual. Active female sexuality is always confined to the realm of villainy and/or comedy. weeaboomer
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Oct 23, 2020 17:08
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oriongates posted:Not entirely, there's an anime airing this very season which strikes me as the most Mookie-style anime ever. Why is there a rainbow of disembodied breasts floating around?
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Oct 23, 2020 18:21
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Those are slimes.
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Who What Now posted:Why is there a rainbow of disembodied breasts floating around? They're slimes, because most anime made these days has absolutely 0 creativity so they're just copy-pasting Dragon Quest/Warrior.
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Oct 23, 2020 18:28
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 ew  ew ew ew  GOOD QUESTION
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Rotten Red Rod posted:
He's a doormat, which I guess makes him more comfortable than sleeping on a hard stone floor.
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Oct 23, 2020 19:44
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"Snout is a body pillow"
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Ague Proof posted:"Snout is a body pillow" It's called a dakimakura 
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