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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

uber_stoat posted:

i've always heard that fake blood stuff is really sticky and disgusting but i think it would be a fun Life Experience to get doused in that poo poo just the one time so you can take a picture like that.

I used to work at one of the biggest haunted attractions in the country for years and the Hollywood make up takes so long to do but genuinely upsetting drunk people on the trolley/subway ride home was totally worth it.

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Cage Kicker
Feb 20, 2009

End of the fiscal year, bitch.
MP's got time to order pens for year year, hooah?


SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made



Lipstick Apathy

Gynovore posted:

Homelander isn't a Nazi, but he's not exactly anti-Nazi either. If the ending hadn't happened, he might well have gone along with Storefront because 1) Nookie 2) He hates everyone, why not just run with it?

Owlbear Camus posted:

Homelander's relationship with Stormfront is honestly not a bad metaphor for America's relationship with The Fash at all.

Most Nazis aren't people out actively hunting down minorities, the most insidious Nazi is the one who goes "oh, she just said that white people are being threatened and they need to destroy the untermenschen to ensure the future of the aryan race? can't see how any of that concerns me" and just go on with life. Homelander could have decided being a Nazi was wrong and outed Storefront or even killed her, but he didn't care, since none of that affected him.

Merica

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Alan Moore's Miracleman is a good Superman gone nuts story with Kid Miracleman. Also has an interesting jumping off point to explain the original series.

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

Zwabu posted:

Does the source material for The Boys reach a conclusion? Or is it still an ongoing series?

It ends with Butcher becoming a terrorist after Homelander dies. He steals some kinda gas that kills supes and is willing to sacrifice millions of people to get the remaining supes that are alive. He kills MM, Frenchie, and The Female for getting in his way. Hughie confronts him on the top of the Empire State Building and they both fall a few stories with Butcher breaking his neck and Hughie getting impaled on the leg. Hughie finishes Butcher off and goes on to be happy with Annie

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

No the most insidious Nazi was hitler since he killed millions of people.

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Romes128 posted:

It ends with Butcher becoming a terrorist after Homelander dies. He steals some kinda gas that kills supes and is willing to sacrifice millions of people to get the remaining supes that are alive. He kills MM, Frenchie, and The Female for getting in his way. Hughie confronts him on the top of the Empire State Building and they both fall a few stories with Butcher breaking his neck and Hughie getting impaled on the leg. Hughie finishes Butcher off and goes on to be happy with Annie

Somehow getting his leg impaled on the downward-facing spikes on top of the fence was somehow the thing that made me go “oh come the gently caress on” the hardest. Didn’t even have it snapped off or anything, just... I guess he bounced? :v:

I am Reverend
Sep 21, 2008

Pheromosa's Special Attack rose!
The porn parody Homelander should have been called Bonelander instead of Homebanger

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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There's already a real porn star named Bonelander.

Edit:
Go on....Google it.

Solice Kirsk fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Oct 23, 2020

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Romes128 posted:

It ends with Butcher becoming a terrorist after Homelander dies. He steals some kinda gas that kills supes and is willing to sacrifice millions of people to get the remaining supes that are alive. He kills MM, Frenchie, and The Female for getting in his way. Hughie confronts him on the top of the Empire State Building and they both fall a few stories with Butcher breaking his neck and Hughie getting impaled on the leg. Hughie finishes Butcher off and goes on to be happy with Annie

Unless I misread the ending wildly Butcher also implies that he knows in some corner of his head that what he's doing is wrong, and wants Hughie to stop him from committing super-genocide (like his brother would). Right when Hughie loses his remaining lead on where to find him, Butcher calls in a terrorist threat at the Empire State Building to lure him up, and is genuinely surprised when Hughie makes a lunge for him instead of talking him down. He could have let Hughie (who would have died from the bomb-V detonation anyways) fall and carried out the plan.

If you have a high tolerance for Garth Ennis' edgelord comedy, I would absolutely recommend checking out the series. It's 72 issues long (+ a few miniseries) broken up into story arcs. Excellent writing, characters are generally great (the frenglish gets a bit much though), the majority of the comic is spent developing Butcher and Hughie in a pretty fascinating way.

On the Ennis scale of "Preacher" to "Crossed", it's much closer to Preacher.

Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Oct 23, 2020

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Groovelord Neato posted:

Alan Moore's Miracleman is a good Superman gone nuts story with Kid Miracleman. Also has an interesting jumping off point to explain the original series.

I've been meaning to mention Miracleman.

Alan Moore did that series roughly at the same time he did V For Vendetta, and the two comics were the left hook/right cross to set comics fans up for the uppercut that was Watchmen (with his Swamp Thing run as the fancy moves to set up the finisher).

Miracleman was his first attempt, one of the first attempts, to bring superheroes into the real world. And unless you lived in London c.1984 (the Kid Miracleman thing) your world ended up better in that timeline. It's a sad, but visionary, tale of what happens when miracles walk the Earth and normal people have to deal with them. It's highly recommended, it's my favorite Moore project, edging V for Vendetta and Watchmen out by a narrow margin.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Owlbear Camus posted:

The Plutonian's inciting incident for Yet Another Superman Expy to flip his lid is pretty good, too.

He's a mild-mannered TV journalist and when he spills his guts to the Lois Lane Expy, she rejects him completely for deceiving her and runs to the broadcast control room to shriek his secret identity and they immediately go live in an attempt to broadcast it. The whole Clark Kent identity that keeps him moored to humanity gets burned in a handful of seconds.

Waid's story pitch for the series was great. "Imagine how, if Superman was real, just how flooded YouTube would be with videos of him. Now imagine if he stopped one day to read the comments section of those videos."

Shame Waid whiffed the ending so hard. I think The Boys actually finished on a better note. The companion series, Incorruptible, had much better quality throughout.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Superman wouldn't be affected by negative comments in the least. Dude is an absolute moral exemplar. The world would unironically be a better place if we tried to follow his example.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Shame Waid whiffed the ending so hard.
I think the last, what, 5 issues (?) were hit and miss. I felt like Plutonian being a kind of energy-probe from an alien. civilization was a weird way to go, and the realization that the mother he ended up being incarnated/birthed by was a schizo basket case who had murdered her previous kids and then went supersets because she couldn't kill Plutonian was dark.

And yeah, the whole but about Plutonian having his essence spread throughout reality and becoming the inspiration for Superman was a bit eye-rolling, if meant in the right way.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Waid's story pitch for the series was great. "Imagine how, if Superman was real, just how flooded YouTube would be with videos of him. Now imagine if he stopped one day to read the comments section of those videos."

Shame Waid whiffed the ending so hard. I think The Boys actually finished on a better note. The companion series, Incorruptible, had much better quality throughout.

Not art quality, the first penciller was loving dire. Tbh Irredeemable doesn't have great art either but that's non-Image indie comics for you

Gaius Marius posted:

Superman wouldn't be affected by negative comments in the least. Dude is an absolute moral exemplar. The world would unironically be a better place if we tried to follow his example.

It relates somewhat to what’s going on with Homelander because like him, Plutonian had a broken childhood. So the question the book asks, and I guess the show too, is what makes the all powerful Superman be a good guy? Waid would probably say “being raised by decent people” which is also what Becca believes - and is willing to abandon her husband and life to prevent another Homelander

zoux fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Oct 23, 2020

The Klowner
Apr 20, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
superman is good because ww2 america needed him to be good

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

The Klowner posted:

superman is good because ww2 america needed him to be good

This is the kind of low iq poo poo I expect in dnd. Stop thinking everything is part of the culture war. Superman is a good person because he cares for his fellow man, takes joy in them succeeding, and never lets the chance of failure dissuade him from doing the right thing. Try being more like him. You'll like the results.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

zoux posted:

Not art quality, the first penciller was loving dire. Tbh Irredeemable doesn't have great art either but that's non-Image indie comics for you

Actually, maybe give Incorruptible a pass too. I had forgotten about Jailbait and the main characters stance of "We can't have sex anymore because I'm a good guy now. But you turn 18 next month so. ...."

The Klowner
Apr 20, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gaius Marius posted:

This is the kind of low iq poo poo I expect in dnd. Stop thinking everything is part of the culture war. Superman is a good person because he cares for his fellow man, takes joy in them succeeding, and never lets the chance of failure dissuade him from doing the right thing. Try being more like him. You'll like the results.

lol

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Gaius Marius posted:

This is the kind of low iq poo poo I expect in dnd. Stop thinking everything is part of the culture war. Superman is a good person because he cares for his fellow man, takes joy in them succeeding, and never lets the chance of failure dissuade him from doing the right thing. Try being more like him. You'll like the results.

*Tries to tell other people to be good and care for other men*
*also uses the phrase "low iq poo poo" for a statement they disagree with*

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

socialsecurity posted:

*Tries to tell other people to be good and care for other men*
*also uses the phrase "low iq poo poo" for a statement they disagree with*

Do you have a better description for dnd. Bro you ever read that poo poo

The Klowner
Apr 20, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gaius Marius posted:

Do you have a better description for dnd. Bro you ever read that poo poo

Superman wouldn't

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

The Klowner posted:

Superman wouldn't

I cannot argue with you there. He'd be too busy making a difference instead of trying to be top of the cool kids club.

The Klowner
Apr 20, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gaius Marius posted:

I cannot argue with you there. He'd be too busy making a difference instead of trying to be top of the cool kids club.

Normally I wouldn't care about your needling but the absurdity of the irony here is boggling my mind. I made a low effort post about my opinion and you ad hominem'd down my throat. What's your problem?

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

The Klowner posted:

Normally I wouldn't care about your needling but the absurdity of the irony here is boggling my mind. I made a low effort post about my opinion and you ad hominem'd down my throat. What's your problem?

Nevermind

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


I am Reverend posted:

The porn parody Homelander should have been called Bonelander instead of Homebanger

It was kinda fast so I wasn't sure about it, but was The Deep's porn parody starred in by the actual Deep?

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

Neurolimal posted:

Unless I misread the ending wildly Butcher also implies that he knows in some corner of his head that what he's doing is wrong, and wants Hughie to stop him from committing super-genocide (like his brother would). Right when Hughie loses his remaining lead on where to find him, Butcher calls in a terrorist threat at the Empire State Building to lure him up, and is genuinely surprised when Hughie makes a lunge for him instead of talking him down. He could have let Hughie (who would have died from the bomb-V detonation anyways) fall and carried out the plan.

Kinda like that. Butcher gets some plot-device gizmo that will kill anyone with V in their system, and plans to use it. The boys point out that this will also kill tens of thousands of non-supes with traces of V, but Butcher decides to do it anyway because he just hates supes so gosh darn much. He kills MM and Frenchie, then Hughie tries to stop him, and Butcher says "I could kill you on the spot but you're such a nice person" or something, then they have a really dumb fight, then spend an entire issue after being mortally wounded telling Hughie what a super nice person he is. It's really the weakest point of the series.

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Astroman posted:

It was kinda fast so I wasn't sure about it, but was The Deep's porn parody starred in by the actual Deep?

If you pause during that scene the Amazon X-Ray talks about how The Deep wanted to but Vought wouldn’t let him. :v:

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

Gaius Marius posted:

This is the kind of low iq poo poo I expect in dnd. Stop thinking everything is part of the culture war. Superman is a good person because he cares for his fellow man, takes joy in them succeeding, and never lets the chance of failure dissuade him from doing the right thing. Try being more like him. You'll like the results.

The Boys Season 2: Sensitive About Superman

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Superman is a good person because he was raised by good people.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

The Klowner posted:

superman is good because ww2 america needed him to be good

Superman predates World War 2.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Jedit posted:

Superman predates World War 2.

This reminded me that one of the vignettes in the original '38 Action Comics #1 of Superman owning evildoers had a conspiratorial isolationist angle.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Karen Fukuhara is doing Q&As with a few of her co-stars, evidently Black Noir having a nut allergy is a real thing Karl Urban came up with on behalf of the actor playing him having a lethal nut allergy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyA5PNJFKoQ

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Since people are never getting tired of superheroes it`s good to see new takes on them now and again.
I have said it before but a superman mini-series set in 1938 has the potential to be really dope. Even better if it`s in 1931-34 the worst years of the depression.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Baudolino posted:

Since people are never getting tired of superheroes it`s good to see new takes on them now and again.
I have said it before but a superman mini-series set in 1938 has the potential to be really dope. Even better if it`s in 1931-34 the worst years of the depression.

There just needs to be more Great Depression period pieces in general.

Incelshok Na
Jul 2, 2020

by Hand Knit
Guess who just got back today?
Them wild-eyed boys that'd been away
Haven't changed, hadn't much to say
But man, I still think them cats are crazy
They were askin' if you were around
How you was, where you could be found
Told them you were livin' downtown
Drivin' all the old men crazy

The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
I said, the boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town

You know that chick that used to dance a lot?
Every night, she'd be on the floor, shakin' what she's got
Man, when I tell ya she was cool, she was red hot
I mean she was steamin'
And that time over at Johnny's place
Well, this chick got up and she slapped Johnny's face
Man, we just fell about the place
If that chick don't wanna know, forget her

The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
I said, the boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town

Spread the word around...
Guess who's back in town!
You spread the word around!

Friday night they'll be dressed to kill
Down at Dino's bar and grill
The drink will flow, and blood will spill
And if the boys wanna fight, you better let 'em
That jukebox in the corner blasting out my favourite song
The nights are gettin' warmer, it won't be long
Won't be long 'til summer comes
Now that the boys are here again

The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
(Spread the word around)
The boys are back in town
The boys are back in town
(The boys are back, the boys are back)

The boys are back in town again
They're hangin' down at Dino's
The boys are back in town again!

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Gaius Marius posted:

I cannot argue with you there. He'd be too busy making a difference instead of trying to be top of the cool kids club.

Do you think Superman would mockingly call it the cool kids club, or just approve of the people who mock it?

:thunk:

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Oct 23, 2020

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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If I were Superman I'd do nothing but covertly undo all the progress made on construction projects in the middle of the night. Workers just show up the next day confused as hell when all the concrete they poured has vanished and in its place is nothing but a befuddled looking teddy bear with a single half inflated balloon.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Solice Kirsk posted:

If I were Superman I'd do nothing but covertly undo all the progress made on construction projects in the middle of the night. Workers just show up the next day confused as hell when all the concrete they poured has vanished and in its place is nothing but a befuddled looking teddy bear with a single half inflated balloon.

Whoa. Step aside, Stormfront, I've found the most evil supe

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Owlbear Camus posted:

The Plutonian's inciting incident for Yet Another Superman Expy to flip his lid is pretty good, too.

He's a mild-mannered TV journalist and when he spills his guts to the Lois Lane Expy, she rejects him completely for deceiving her and runs to the broadcast control room to shriek his secret identity and they immediately go live in an attempt to broadcast it. The whole Clark Kent identity that keeps him moored to humanity gets burned in a handful of seconds.

If I remember correctly, that was part of what put him under such stress but it wasn't what caused him to snap.

He snapped months later when his sidekick found out he was responsible for the deaths of thousands of children by accidentally unleashing an alien virus. When he realised the one person who really, genuinely idealized him would never look at him the same way again he went nuts, lobotomized him and trashed the entire city.

Oh and just to add to the tragedy:

He only gave the alien virus to the researcher who unleashed it because the guy wouldn't stop hounding him online and in the media, calling him selfish for hoarding all this alien tech. And he tried to take every precaution including giving the guy an SOS signal only he could hear, if he hadn't happened to be spending ten minutes on the moon at the exact time the virus got out. The first ten minutes he'd ever spent away from the constant cries of people in need of help he couldn't shut out.

I mean OK, it's not terribly realistic in the coincidences. But it does a better of trying to explain why he snapped than most "Superman turns evil" stories.

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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

jabby posted:

If I remember correctly, that was part of what put him under such stress but it wasn't what caused him to snap.
Yeah it was the Million Cuts approach to a bunch of everyday annoyances that, surprise, become really scary when a flying god decides he's done with this poo poo.

Crap like a dude whinging that his Yachtboat was dinged up a bit when Plutonian save him

That's why I think the whole reveal that his mom was psychologically imbalanced takes a lot of bite out of the situation.

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